Reinstalling Browser

officerripley

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Porlock, Calif
Yes, although not the complete specs, I was able to look it up and find all of the specs. Could you look in the Task Manager, under Startup tab, and let me know how many programs are enabled and how many are under high startup impact?
Ok, finally getting back to you (tried to upload scrn shot of the startups in Tsk Mgr but the site here kept saying "Security Error"), so here's a list of the 1s under high startup imp:

Amazon Music Helper
Avast Avlaunch component

There are a few other startups but they medium or low impact.
 

Chris P Bacon

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Location
Cuenca Ecuador
Have you tried using a different browser? MS Explorer or Edge is probably on your computer already. Or in the link I posted in this thread earlier, you can get Firefox or Opera, for free and try them to see if the problem persists. It's possible too that Avast or some other program that you may not even be aware of, somehow made its way onto your computer without you even knowing so. I doubt that it's anything major but I understand how aggravating those intermittent things can be. Good luck.

See message #4, the ninite.com link, if you're interested in trying a different browser.
 

officerripley

Well-known Member
Location
Porlock, Calif
Have you tried using a different browser? MS Explorer or Edge is probably on your computer already. Or in the link I posted in this thread earlier, you can get Firefox or Opera, for free and try them to see if the problem persists. It's possible too that Avast or some other program that you may not even be aware of, somehow made its way onto your computer without you even knowing so. I doubt that it's anything major but I understand how aggravating those intermittent things can be. Good luck.

See message #4, the ninite.com link, if you're interested in trying a different browser.
Thanks, Chris; Avast actually is my AV program. The more I think about it, I'm kinda leaning toward not bothering to reinstall Chrome since most other reliable browsers will import my Chr bkmrks. And since this is a Win comp, Edge is already installed.
 

Nathan

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Has anyone here on SF reinstalled the Chrome (or any other) browser? I'm having freezes happen while using Chrome--sometimes hitting CTRL-ALT-DEL gets it going again; sometimes not--and I've tried several times doing the Reset-&-Clean-Up thing but still get the freezes. You lose your bookmarks if you uninstall and reinstall but I *think* I've got it figured out how to save the bookmarks and get 'em back after the reinstall but am still nervous. Anybody ever done this?
I don't recall having freeze ups with Chrome, but on a couple occasions with Firefox. I found that FF needed updating and once done the freeze-ups went away.
 

Chris P Bacon

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Location
Cuenca Ecuador
Thanks, Chris; Avast actually is my AV program. The more I think about it, I'm kinda leaning toward not bothering to reinstall Chrome since most other reliable browsers will import my Chr bkmrks. And since this is a Win comp, Edge is already installed.
Yes, that's what I was thinking but I myself had problems years ago, with Avast, free version, being my AV program. I just have relied on Windows defender ever since and have had no problems with viruses. But if you feel safer with Avast on there, then by all means, keep it. But you could try disabling it for a day or two just to see if it might be causing your problems.
 

oldpop

Member
I think you're going to see a lot of compatibility problems going forward as MS forces the software vendors to upgrade to 11. They need to generate a reason for upgrading both hardware & software, it's all about money! Chromebooks with the Linux OS have probably hammered their bottom line.

It's a Win/Win for Linux users though. Any units manufactured before the release of 11 will be a dime a dozen on EBAY,,,etc. FOMO!!!
I am working on changing over to Linux full time.
 

RFW

Certified Night Owl
Location
United States
Thanks, Chris; Avast actually is my AV program. The more I think about it, I'm kinda leaning toward not bothering to reinstall Chrome since most other reliable browsers will import my Chr bkmrks. And since this is a Win comp, Edge is already installed.
The only thing I suspect being a problem is your Chrome freezing up only when something heavy is running in the background. Does your AV have scheduled scans or is it set to only scan when the computer is idle or does it only scan when you tell it to?
Your CPU is more than adequate for web browsing. Memory can be an issue since you only have 8GB of RAM and Chrome is probably the most RAM intensive of all browsers.

Is there a pattern to how/when it freezes? For example, only when you have more than 5 tabs open or only when you access a certain website or it freezes in a way that you can't interact or scroll up and down a web page but other buttons within Chrome still function normally.
 

RFW

Certified Night Owl
Location
United States
Have you tried using a different browser? MS Explorer or Edge is probably on your computer already. Or in the link I posted in this thread earlier, you can get Firefox or Opera, for free and try them to see if the problem persists. It's possible too that Avast or some other program that you may not even be aware of, somehow made its way onto your computer without you even knowing so. I doubt that it's anything major but I understand how aggravating those intermittent things can be. Good luck.

See message #4, the ninite.com link, if you're interested in trying a different browser.
Edge is pretty much just an offshoot of Chrome (same technology), whether that's for the better or worse I do not know.
I am working on changing over to Linux full time.
The majority of programs I use still reply on Windows so it's still not my daily driver. It sure works wonders on older hardware though.
Ok, finally getting back to you (tried to upload scrn shot of the startups in Tsk Mgr but the site here kept saying "Security Error"), so here's a list of the 1s under high startup imp:

Amazon Music Helper
Avast Avlaunch component

There are a few other startups but they medium or low impact.
I don't see them being a problem at all if they're only running in the background on standby. Avast scans can cause slowdowns but you should not disable its startup component.

If you don't have any patience left to troubleshoot, I'd suggest you use a different browser as there's a high chance that it is Chrome messing with something in Windows that it doesn't like or it's other software or even Windows messing with it. Windows updates can and are known to cause issues with other software. Fixes suggested by me and other people here are the most common ones but it looks like we have now reached the unknown. So many variables to eliminate, most people (including me) just do a clean install of the whole system instead but I understand it is not an easy option for you.

If you want a different browser that has the same feel as Chrome but runs much better, try Brave. It's based on Chromium which is an open source version of Chrome. It's privacy focus so no telemetry and such. Bookmarks from other browsers can be imported and it is compatible with Chrome extensions as well.
 

officerripley

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Location
Porlock, Calif
The only thing I suspect being a problem is your Chrome freezing up only when something heavy is running in the background. Does your AV have scheduled scans or is it set to only scan when the computer is idle or does it only scan when you tell it to?
Your CPU is more than adequate for web browsing. Memory can be an issue since you only have 8GB of RAM and Chrome is probably the most RAM intensive of all browsers.

Is there a pattern to how/when it freezes? For example, only when you have more than 5 tabs open or only when you access a certain website or it freezes in a way that you can't interact or scroll up and down a web page but other buttons within Chrome still function normally.
Chrome freezes up with even just one tab open and does it on a lot of different websites and it's just as you said: "it freezes in a way that I can't interact or scroll up and down a web page but other buttons within Chrome still function normally."

I think tomorrow I'll give the Brave browser you suggested a try, sounds good.

Thanks again to all for all the immense help; you all here on SF rock! :D
 

officerripley

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Location
Porlock, Calif
Or, you could be like Eve and get yourself an 🍏
But that’s a pretty drastic step and I speak with
my 👅 firmly planted in my cheek. 😉 ✌️
I do have an iPhone. When we made the step up to smart phones, I wanted an Android and kept telling the saleskid that I had an android tablet but the saleskid said "Oh, I think you'll find the iPhone much easier to use" and he wore me down and that's what I got. (As someone told me later, "The commision that day for the Apple products was probably higher than for the android phones." :LOL: ) Oh, well, we've been getting along okay with the iPhones; I'm too lazy to change. ;):LOL:
 

RFW

Certified Night Owl
Location
United States
Chrome freezes up with even just one tab open and does it on a lot of different websites and it's just as you said: "it freezes in a way that I can't interact or scroll up and down a web page but other buttons within Chrome still function normally."

I think tomorrow I'll give the Brave browser you suggested a try, sounds good.

Thanks again to all for all the immense help; you all here on SF rock! :D
Hope it works out for you!

Oh, and just for fun. Try this method under How to increase virtual memory using Settings.
 

Mr. Ed

Life does not deserve my gratitude.
Last I checked Chrome had a virus so I deleted it from my computer.
Some alternative browsers to Chrome include. Brave browser is a good alternative to Chrome, Firefox, Opera browser, Vivaldi, Safari (Mac)
 

RFW

Certified Night Owl
Location
United States

JustinCase

UNIX/Linux
I'd choose Brave over Fiirefox though due to how little telemetry data it collects.
You'll have to explain what you just posted to us dolts and what it means to seniors. Other reviews I read gave it a thumbs down because of the promises that didn't make grade. Firefox/duckduckgo does everything I need. I have very, very few ads, no pop-ups & had only one issue back in 2015 that taught me to not use the same password with 2 applications. I adhere to the KISS approach.
 

Irwin

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I use Chrome because I'm lazy. My Android phone came with it. My bookmarks and other data are automatically stored in the cloud, so any device where I use Chrome has access to them without having to do anything extra. If I had any problems with it freezing, like the OP, I might switch, though. There are occasions when I'm doing something in the browser and the computer crashes. I wonder if it's the same issue @officerripley is having but just a different reaction or consequence by the OS. I suspect it has something to do with my audio interface, but I can't seem to pin down the problem since it occurs so sporadically.
 

RFW

Certified Night Owl
Location
United States
You'll have to explain what you just posted to us dolts and what it means to seniors. Other reviews I read gave it a thumbs down because of the promises that didn't make grade. Firefox/duckduckgo does everything I need. I have very, very few ads, no pop-ups & had only one issue back in 2015 that taught me to not use the same password with 2 applications. I adhere to the KISS approach.
There are researches done on popular browsers regarding how much telemetry they use, in layman's terms, how often a browser "phone home" to the browser developer, whether it's to keep itself up to date and tell the user when a new update is available, collect browser settings for troubleshooting/improvements, etc and they've found that Brave does it the least. The problem is you never exactly know what data is being sent and what it contains, with or without your knowledge. It could be just user settings and some basic hardware specs, or it could be an entire list of websites you've ever visited. Internet Explorer/Edge, Chrome and Safari are the biggest culprits.

What seems to be the consensus of Brave and Firefox users is:
Brave does privacy protection better than Firefox out-of-the-box, meaning you don't need to adjust or change anything. Great for people who are used to Chrome but want a safer browser and novice users in general.
Firefox doesn't do privacy protection as well out-of-the-box but with some tinkering, it can have stronger security and better privacy protection.

Both options are great so you can't go wrong with either of them. But I feel I have to point out that both browser developers have been embroiled in some controversies (unrelated to their browsers) in the past that may or may not have affected the direction their browsers are heading and their future.
 

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