Sordid Movies

jerry old

redneck, but brainy
We have threads on classic movies, horror movies, and western movies.
When you eagerly anticipate a movie due to theme, actors or other preference and it turns out to be a sleazy performance
that you would expect to find in the porno houses of fifty years ago, it is more than disappointing.

The Night Porter with Dick Borgard and Charlotte Ramplin, two fine English Actors should have been an excellent drama, instead it
was just another monster movie with human beings rather than creatures. How disappointing, more than disappointing it makes a viewer angry that this slimy bit of film making accepted by some as art.

It is rare to find a critic that does not attempt to impress us with his acuity rather than tell us what the movie is about.
However, here is a critic's review that tells you all you need to know.


The Night Porter​

Roger Ebert February 10, 1975

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"The Night Porter" is as nasty as it is lubricious, a despicable attempt to titillate us by exploiting memories of persecution and suffering. It is (I know how obscene this sounds) Nazi chic. It's been taken seriously in some circles, mostly by critics agile enough to stand on their heads while describing 180-degree turns, in order to interpret trash as "really" meaningful.

That's not to say I object per se to the movie's subject matter, a sadomasochistic relationship taken up again 15 years after the war by a former SS concentration camp officer and the inmate he raped and dominated when she was a young girl. I can imagine a serious film on this theme -- on the psychological implications of shared guilt and the identification of the slave with the master -- but "The Night Porter" isn't such a film; it's such a superficial soap opera we'd laugh at it if it weren't so disquieting.
 

Rosemarie

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Location
England
I am a great fan of Dirk Bogarde (get the spelling right)...but I saw this film as a young person and never understood what it was about.
You might be interested to know that Dirk Bogarde served in the army during the war and was one of the soldiers who liberated the concentration camps. He saw first hand the horrors the Nazis had inflicted on their prisoners.
 

jerry old

redneck, but brainy
I am a great fan of Dirk Bogarde (get the spelling right)...but I saw this film as a young person and never understood what it was about.
You might be interested to know that Dirk Bogarde served in the army during the war and was one of the soldiers who liberated the concentration camps. He saw first hand the horrors the Nazis had inflicted on their prisoners.

No, did not know that, how interesting. That makes me wonder how he felt about his role in 'The Night Porter.'
Really like him as an actor.
 

jerry old

redneck, but brainy
Had to watch it, Chalotte Ramplin is one of my heartthrobs.
Saw it on late night TV-'Chalotte, your not doing that stuff!'
Watched it again, she was still doing it-never figured out the attraction of Brando.

Trax-'Last Tango in Paris.' i think-wouldn't watch it, not a Brando fan, he played a thug well.
 

FastTrax

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Had to watch it, Chalotte Ramplin is one of my heartthrobs.
Saw it on late night TV-'Chalotte, your not doing that stuff!'
Watched it again, she was still doing it-never figured out the attraction of Brando.

Trax-'Last Tango in Paris.' i think-wouldn't watch it, not a Brando fan, he played a thug well.

Thanks jo. I agree with you. Like Paul Newman and Steve McQueen he was the epitome of bad ass. I think his son Christian with that weird murder case plagued Marlon, he got real strange after that. shame.
 

jerry old

redneck, but brainy
Trax-
Talking about stinkers: "West Side Story," Hey, where are the stabbings, killings, what is this, gang bangers meeting up
for turf wars-Then, Then they started dancing :cry: pitiful,
 
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Pepper

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NYC
Thanks jo. I agree with you. Like Paul Newman and Steve McQueen he was the epitome of bad ass. I think his son Christian with that weird murder case plagued Marlon, he got real strange after that. shame.
No, no he was very strange before. Remember he got really, really fat? So he tells his staff to be real strict with food for him; decides he doesn't like it and hires a kid to go to McDonald's, bring it to him by throwing it over a fence where he would be waiting for it, so his staff wouldn't know. He called it 'grazing.' !!!
 

FastTrax

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No, no he was very strange before. Remember he got really, really fat? So he tells his staff to be real strict with food for him; decides he doesn't like it and hires a kid to go to McDonald's, bring it to him by throwing it over a fence where he would be waiting for it, so his staff wouldn't know. He called it 'grazing.' !!!

OMG that's too funny Pepper. Marlon should have been a politician. I never eat Big Macs for they are extremely unhealthy and more so are infested with pink slime which I have definite proof that it's a communist plot. While the White House press corps smells a fish story wafting from the bottom drawer of his West Wing oak wood desk.
 

Damaged Goods

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Location
Maryland
No, no he was very strange before. Remember he got really, really fat? So he tells his staff to be real strict with food for him; decides he doesn't like it and hires a kid to go to McDonald's, bring it to him by throwing it over a fence where he would be waiting for it, so his staff wouldn't know. He called it 'grazing.' !!!
According to author Robt. Sellers, Marlon would tell his domestic staff to padlock the pantry and fridge, but later on that same day--on several occasions-- his will power would cave and he'd tell them to remove the locks. On one occasion they defied him "for his own good."

No problem, Marlon waddled down Mulholland Drive to Jack Nicholson's house and raided Jack's fridge.
 

FastTrax

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West Side Story was my husband's favorite movie! LOL :D Steven Spielberg did a remake of it last year but I don't know if it even came out yet.

The original was my favorite too. I believe it was supposed to have taken place in either Chelsea or Hells Kitchen which the Westies were supposed to hang out. I don't know who said this but they were supposed to be so unpredictable that they even made the mafioso uneasy. Anyway sometimes copying a great movie such as WSS just doesn't grip you.
 

jerry old

redneck, but brainy
"The Wolf of Wall Street"
I know Debauchery when I see it.
The satellite channels have been running this for a month: as a innocent i watched it-Oh Dear!
 


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