Tag On Front Of My Car Explained (Native American Rattlesnake Disk)

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I first saw the Native American "Rattlesnake Disk" when on a school field trip to Moundville, Alabama while in the 5th grade 1963/1964. I've always felt an affinity with Native American culture and beliefs but do not have Native American blood in my ancestry ... as far as I know.

I was fascinated by the disk and yearned to know it's meaning. In the museum shop at Moundville, stickers were offered for sale containing the disk image and I bought a couple of them. Subsequently I found that whatever I attacked the disk image to, it acted as a protecting talisman bringing good luck.

For example, in the late 1970's, early 1980's I drove a 1965 Chevy Pickup Truck and had a sticker of the disk image attached to the truck cab's rear window. Thing was, the truck had NO taillights and I was NEVER pulled over while driving that truck for improper lights. In fact, I was pulled over once for a failure to yield WARNING (no ticket) ... and the fact of no taillights wasn't even mentioned at all. Pure luck?

I contacted the Moundville museum shop for more stickers after I sold my truck and was told none were available and back in the 60's a different vendor had owned the shop concession. SOooo I had some stickers made as well as the tag now on the front of my current car.

In a picture of the actual Rattlesnake Disk below, a brief explanation of the disk is offered. If you look at the image as a whole, you should see it as the head of a buffalo. That whole image as well as the individual image components tells a story. The disk is a Native American way of telling a story important to their culture and (religious ... as it were) beliefs. While the disk holds meaning for me, the tag on the front of my car is likely very puzzling to those who see it.

That's the short story ... the long story follows the pictures ...

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The Moundville Rattlesnake Disk by Clifford C. Richey May 2009 Revised 06-21-2009

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This sandstone disk is from Moundville. Alabama and is about 12 inches in diameter. While the imagery on the disk is obviously of Serpents and a Hand-Eye design, one should not be distracted by this. One should focus first on the overall Form of the disk which is a Circle with notches on its edge. This means a location that has holes (holes as viewed from horizontal section as opposed to the usual overhead bullseye style) in its surface. The locational sign is relatively large and this sign is also used as the number one (made by counting the Finger Tip). Therefore the statement, The Great One. Next we need to look at the Secondary Form created by the total imagery. From this pattern we see that it is the image of a Buffalo Head. There is a line on the Buffalo's Nose that points to one of the the hole signs. This message may be based on a metaphor relating to a buffalo wallow.

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Illustration 1: Buffalo Form

The Great One Buffalo (at) His Hole (in) The Ground's Surface

Exactly what this Associational Form (the Buffalo Head) meant to the Native American that composed it is unknown. However, we can find some historical information as to what the Buffalo Form meant to the Winnebago Tribe. Perhaps similar meanings were held by other Buffalo hunting tribes. The following is material from Paul Raden's Notebook. (1)

“The spirit of the buffalo, an animal that seems to traverse the whole earth in its migrations, is the very essence of the land. When Earth maker created our world, he saw that his creation was unstable and moved about uncontrollably, so he created the land to help anchor it. This land is in spiritual origin a gigantic buffalo. However, the chief of the buffaloes is the complex deity Blue Horn. As it is said in Blue Horn's Nephews, "He was one of the chief Water spirits, that was why he was called "Blue Horn". He was a Buffalo Spirit. He was the chief of the buffaloes, but he was a Water spirit, it is said. Blue Horn is also associated with the blue sky and the Evening Star. Esoterically, the buffaloes over which he has command are the vast herd of stars who undertake the massive migration across the dark plain of the celestial sphere every night from east to west, only to come to ground or to disappear below the ground at the end of their journey. What makes them Buffalo Spirits is the mysterious journey they make from west to east, either somehow across the land or perhaps subterraneanly, traveling until the herd reemerges in the east following after the setting sun. As the Evening Star (Red Star) who lies close to the horizon of the sunset, he leads this herd of stellar buffalo across the sky. So the Buffalo Spirits, like Blue Horn himself, seem to be split between a celestial home and an abode in the underworld.”
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(1) Paul Radin's Notebook 58, a manuscript with numbers corresponding to the pages of a lost syllabic text. Pages 104-107 were found as a single loose page fragment inserted in another notebook (#59). The translation is in the style and hand of Oliver LaMère. collected by Sam Blowsnake, ca. 1912 Paul Radin, Winnebago Notebooks, Philadelphia: American Philosophical Society.
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As we shall see there are some elements of the above description that fit well with our translation of the signs found in this disk. The description by Raden (above) provides several links to this disk's message. As we know from previous translations the Serpent imagery means a river, a stream, or current of water. There are two Serpents in this composition and they appeared to be tied or bound together as shown through the two knots on either side of the composition. The Knots are compound signs created out of the Circle sign for location, an opening sign (“V” shaped) and a rectangular place sign. The general meaning of this is that of streams of water that are intertwined and bound or tied together. The Knot on the right side of the disk should be considered as in the West. The common Native American associations with the West are the setting sun, darkness, and death. Here the Knot has the opening “V” shaped sign pointing downward, covered over by the location sign and meaning the opposite of opening-up, a held-down place. The place sign is below the location sign. The intent is to show that the stream of water is moving downward in the West and all the internal, to the Serpent, place signs are compound thus incorporating the held-down sign. The places are within the streams of water and they are places that hold things in. The lowest parts of the Serpents Bodies are shaped into the sign for contained as in a bowl. Above this is the second loop of the Serpent's body whose internal signs are composed of multiple Feet. An upright Foot sign is interlocked with another that is upside down (a Foot is the sign for a walk or journey. -these journeys are thus intertwined or interlocked). In written gesture sign language a human or animal body that is upside down indicates that it is dead. Thus the many upside down Feet mean a death-walk or journey of a multitude. Together the Feet indicate a journey above and below the surface. The surface is indicated by the line that makes up the upper surface of the Serpent. The Double Lines of the Serpents Body means that whatever in internal to the Serpent (within the Serpents Belly) is hidden or unseen. This walk or journey is within the Serpent thus within the streams of water and hidden from view.

Because of the two, double, Loops created by the Serpent Bodies ,one above the other, the disk is effectively divided into and upper-side and a lower-side. In other words the upper and lower worlds, the walks or journeys take place below the earth and above the earth.

The Serpents, The Streams Tied Together Above and Below A Multitude of Journeys Above and Below The Journeys Up and Down the Sides (of the earth).

In The West Unseen Movement on The Side of Earth-Female The Unseen Turning Places The Serpent's Mouth, The Water Source The Many Doorways The Hole in The Surface The Doorway The Doorway to Turning Below.

Beneath The Surface The Serpent's Throat a Vertical Place of Water and Transformation.

The Location The Knot, The Tie That Holds Down The Axe in The Place Below The Under-Half, The Underworld.

The Serpents, The Underground Streams Within Them A Multitude of Journeys on the Sides A multitude of Openings and Places Descending The Tail of The Serpent The Many Captives The Doorway Its Entrance on the Surface.


The Knot on the Left or East side of the disk represents the well known Native American conceptualization regarding the East, the rising sun, light, and rebirth. Here the knot has the “V” shaped opening sign facing upwards. The journey that was initiated downward into in the underworld now turns upward and continues through a opening-place to the upper world and the arc of the sky.

The Heads and the Tails of the Serpents are likewise opposites in meaning. Starting on the Left there is the wavy double lined sign for unseen or invisible movement -a turning movement. This movement enters the Mouth of the Serpent (a sign for a source of water or moisture) through the Fang (the triangular sign for earth-female). The Lower Jaw of the Serpent is created from the signs for female- places (earth-female-places). The “U” shape of the Serpent's Mouth is the sign for turning-female. This sign indicates that the Male Buffalo has turned Female. This is another way of stating, through metaphor, that the Buffalo has died. The Eye of the Serpent is the obsequious hole sign and attached to it is a “U” shaped sign that repeats the horizontal view of a hole as seen along the disk's edge. The two lines at the bottom of the “U” is the sign for a doorway or gateway.

There appear to be two Horns on the Serpent's Head. The first is the Triangular earth-female sign while the second, larger, Horn is a Finger pointing to the Edge of the Disk just next to the hole-in-the -surface sign. The Neck or Throat of the Serpent has the jagged signs for water Criss-Crossed with each other thus forming a second sign which is the “X” for an exchange or a transformation. The other part of the Serpent's Throat has a vertical-place sign and a Double Line meaning unseen. The Serpent's Head on the Left side of the disk is, of course, presents just the opposite meaning of the Head on the Right side. It will be noted that there is a very subtle difference in the composition of the Serpent's Tongue. Here, on the right, the double lined wavy movement actually touches the hole or turning sign on the edge of the disk rather than touching the Line for surface. We are thus informed that here the Serpent's Mouth is a place of exit as opposed to an entrance. The exit to the upper-world.

The Serpent's tail on the Right is in the Form for descending while the Serpent's tail on the Left is the sign for ascending. The Rattles on both Tails are created out of the signs for three captives (the three is used as a shorthand for many). The distinction is that the last Rattle is the sign for a doorway or gateway. On the Right an entrance into the earth while on the Left an exit from the earth. This distinction is made by the orientation of the Tails. The right side Tail the gateway sign is
under the surface line sign while on the Right it on top of the surface line sign. The Maya had a constellation known as The Tail of The Serpent whose ascension and dissension may have signaled some ritual event. Perhaps, in this case, the event would have to do with the Hand-Eye sign at the Center of the composition.

The Serpent's Face, Its Appearance Below in The West The Unseen. Movement on The Side of Earth-Female The Unseen Turning The Places of The Mouth, The Water-Source The Serpent's Eye, The Water-Hole in The Surface The Doorway, The Exit to The Ark of The Sky (at) The Hole in The SurfaceThe Serpent's Throat, The Water Passageway Here The Place of The Journey Unseen in The Water(s) of Transformation The Knot, The Tie. The Location Opened-Up byThe Axe, The Arm The Place The Multitude of Journeys Above and Below The Tail of The Serpent Ascending The Multitude of Places.
The Many Captives (Those spirits trapped in the stream of underground water) at The Doorway, The Exit to The Surface The Place of The House of The Journeys Up and Down The Side of The Eye, Venus Contained.

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Illustration 2: The Axes and the Knots

In the above illustration we can view how the Knots were positioned in the West and East. In the West the Knot (yellow) is drawn so as to present the signs for location (the entire Circle even though the Circle is cut) and held-down (the upside down “V” shape). The Axe (gray) is drawn beneath the above signs so it is the Axe that is held-down. The “handle” of the Axe is the double lined sign for unseen. Furthermore this sign is “U” shaped thus indicating it is turning back upwards. In the East the Axe (gray) cuts open the locational Circle (yellow) or Knot/Tie and its “handle” is in the form of the sign for ascending-unseen.(orange) and at the top of this ascending sign is the form of an Eye (light orange) (Venus). It is quite possible that all the imagery of knives, spear points, arrow points, axes etc. that appear in the glyphs are signs that could have been generalized into the word for arms. Thus in many glyphs it is the Arms and Hands of the Sun that are the subjects. So in this glyph we have the Arm and Hand of the Sun descending into the underworld in the West and after “cutting itself free from it watery bonds”, ascends in the East.

The Knots in on both sides of the composition appear to give a “pinched” appearance to the rather oval appearing sign that surrounds the Hand-Eye signs. In one sense the pinched area gives further definition to the Upper and Lower Halves of the composition but it may also represent a Grooved Stone axe. If the Axe sign was used to indicate a warrior then its relative size would indicate that Buffalo was indeed a great warrior and perhaps, this Large Axe indicates the Sun.

The Great Axe, The Great Sun His Great Hand, His Great Steward His Great Eye, Venus.

Finally we will look at the Hand-Eye compound sign. The Wrist of the Hand is the sign (relative size) for a great place. The Hand means a servant or steward (of the Great Axe, The Sun). This is not clearly spelled out for us in this composition but the Hand as the sign for a servant or steward to the Sun seems to hold true as a trend among a series of glyphs. The Wrist making the sign for a Great Place leads us to believe that the House of Venus and probably also related to a Temple of the Sun Clan). The Buffalo Clan men were probably also Warriors of the Sun. The Thumb has the sign for earth-female as the Thumbnail. The earth-female is aligned (Stance) with the angle of the bent Thumb meaning, on the side (of the earth-female). The Tips of the Fingers provide us with a count of the earth-female number four (the four directions or four corners of the earth).

His Great Hand, His Great Steward His Great Eye, Venus Its Location Its Great Place on The Side of Earth-Female Her Four Locations,The Four Corners.

The Eye in the Center of the Palm has a sign turning above- over surface. The surface-location sign is thus centered on the hill sign, a surface location, hillside. This curved line over the Circle is the hill sign as there are short straight lines (the ground's surface on either side of it). Beneath the locational Circle is the held-as in a bowl sign.

It is also a possibility that the Eye imagery is a Dual imagery Bird Head looking in two directions. If this is so, then the meaning would be flight in both directions (East and West). Thus the ascending of the Serpent's Tail (in all likelihood, a constellation as would be the Head of the Serpent) might have signaled the rising of the Eye-of-the Sun (the Warrior's Star, Venus).

Two constellations may have been observed so that when the Head of the Serpent descended below the horizon the Tail of the Serpent would arise. The two constellations would act like the opening and closing of a door. From what we have gleaned from this translation we have the outlines of the warrior cosmology, the death of warriors, and their journey through the watery trails of the underworld within the form of underground streams. Eventually these streams rise to the surface where the warrior spirits make their exit to their journeys in the sky as Venus. Metaphorically compared to the Buffalo arising from its wallow. The multitude of journeys (the multitude of Foot signs) below the earth and above it could be compared with a Herd of Buffalo stars.

We take one final look at the Large Disk , The large Circle, (The Great One)and see that the space between the imagery and the edge of the disk on the Left side is in the shape of a Large Hand (The Great Servant). The Right side is in the shape of a large Bird's Head (His Great Flight).

The Great One, The Great Steward His Great Flight, The Buffalo.

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Illustration 3: Right Buffalo Horn, The Water Horn

There were certain problems that arose in translating this composition. The first problem was the Form of the Buffalo. In many glyphs the Secondary Form is not easily recognized and even when recognized its meaning or association may not be known. It is in such cases that we have to look for historical sources that may give us clues to the associations such as we found about the Buffalo in this paper.

There does appear to be quite a difference between the manner in which the two Buffalo Horns were drafted. The Horn on the left is quite straightforward but the Right Horn (gray), in terms of its Form, appears twisted. Another way of looking at the notches around the disk's perimeter is that instead of a just a horizontal view of the land's surface broken up by holes it is possible that the intent was to show that it was the land surface itself that is moving up and down. The Crook in the Horn of the Serpent would become the sign for taking-downward. This all seems to make a good fit for the description we have read about Blue Horn.

Under circumstances where color could be added in as an actual image of a Buffalo it would have been easy to simply color one Horn blue (thereby indicating a Water-Horn). But is this composition the Buffalo is found in Form only and can not be colored. But the right Horn does contain the Wavy sign for movement and the Head and Mouth of the Serpent which equates to a stream and source of water.

In the West the Land Surface Moving Up and Down, Shaking (thundering herds of buffalo with their feet shaking the ground?) Taken Downward Here (The Finger pointing downward below the surface sign -the edge of the notched circle) BeneathThe SurfaceThe Serpent, The Stream The Mouth, The Water-Source The Turning Places The Many Doorways etc.

Despite the problems described above the overall message is very similar to that of the story of the cultural hero, Blue Horn.

The Moundville Serpent Disk

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Well, that was easy enough HA ... Not so sure about the other disk on the grille of my car. I'm sure it has history and a story to tell too ;) ... Maybe it'll bring me luck :cool:

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Moundville Decorative Disc​


Ground stone disk from the Mississippian period (ca. 800-1500 AD) with incised rattlesnake motif found at Moundville in the nineteenth century.
Encyclopedia of Alabama

Rattlesnake Disc​

The Rattlesnake Disc or Serpent Disc is an artifact of the prehistoric Mississippian-age Moundville culture. The round sandstone carving, approximately 12 inches in diameter, was probably created between 1300 and 1450. It was found in the 19th century near the site of the present Moundville Archaeological Park by a farmer who gave it to state geologist Eugene Allen Smith. It is currently housed at the Jones Archaeological Museum, operated by the University of Alabama Museums at Moundville.

The incised decoration on the front of the disc shows two horned rattlesnakes knotted together to form a circle around a hand with an eye on its palm. The reverse has three concentric circles near the outer edge. The rim of the disc has 17 small notches, evenly spaced. Such discs are sometimes called "palettes" because they are found with traces of paint pigments. It is not known whether they were decorated with paint, or used as a surface for mixing pigments.
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... and then there's this disk also found at Moundville ... and I have NO idea what the story is ...

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If you have an affinity for that, somehow, it's right that you should display it.
This is something from your soul.
 

@Gaer ... my affinity for Native American began when I was 6yrs old.
My dad, out of the Navy and raising a young family, used his VA loan to build a house just outside of town and down a dirt road.
There was sand left over from the foundation site prep and dad had used scrap 2X4's to fashion a sand box out by the pump house.

One day I sneaked a spoon from Mama's kitchen drawer and headed for the sand box to dig.
Had she known, I'd have gotten a whoopin' LoL

The sand box had no bottom. The sand just collected between the 2X4's and resting on top of the earth.

I dug around in the sand with the spoon and eventually began digging into the earth below.
Soon I hit what I thought was a rock and almost cast the "rock" aside before somehow realizing what it was.
I had to peel back sinew from around one end of the "rock" and the earth around the rock had a mysterious dirty "fleshyness" to it.
What I revealed was a PERFECT gray arrowhead. The nicest I've ever seen in my life ... perfect.

I sat in the sandbox for some time just pondering the arrowhead ... and imagining.
After a time, I felt the presence of a Native American man but some distance away in a general westerly direction.
I "saw" a hunter in buckskin loincloth, long black hair braided and arranged ... a bow and arrow quiver.
Of course all this was an image in my mind but in my mind, it all came alive.

I could "see" the Native American. I knew the direction from which he fired his arrow which he had lost.
And I held his arrow in the palm of my hand. A labor of his, requiring some effort and surely he regretted losing it.

Years later and on reflection, I came to think the hunter had wounded an animal that scampered off and died well away. Dunno.

Thing was though, over the years as a kid, I would find a couple more arrowheads on top of the ground on our property.
I'd also find a couple more arrowheads on a gravel bar at the creek down behind the house and off in the woods.
The woods in which I spent many MANY youthful hours just wandering and enjoying alone. Mama only required I be home at dark.

So what happened to that arrowhead I dug ... well, in one of the elementary grades and at school, I traded it for some other treasure.
And still kicking myself for not having that arrowhead on a necklace today. What I wouldn't give to have that gift back ...

@Alligatorob ... I've been back to Moundville several times since the 5th grade field trip and always feel a special peace there.
One thing that was closed in the museum in the 70's was the archeologically excavated graves of Native Americans.
The grave site is still within the walls (or adjacent area) of that museum but no longer available for public viewing.
They may have been covered back over and the museum made slightly smaller maybe.
That area of the museum was closed off at the request of present day Native Americans in Alabama.
On the 5th grade field trip, that area of the museum was open. I want to say there are about 20 remains of all ages.
But there could easily be many more ... just don't remember for sure. They were all buried and in close proximity.
Of particular interest was the skeletal remains of a man said to be 7ft tall. A remarkable height for anyone during that period of history.
 
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@Gaer ... my affinity for Native American began when I was 6yrs old.
My dad, out of the Navy and raising a young family, used his VA loan to build a house just outside of town and down a dirt road.
There was sand left over from the foundation site prep and dad had used scrap 2X4's to fashion a sand box out by the pump house.

One day I sneaked a spoon from Mama's kitchen drawer and headed for the sand box to dig.
Had she known, I'd have gotten a whoopin' LoL

The sand box had no bottom. The sand just collected between the 2X4's and resting on top of the earth.

I dug around in the sand with the spoon and eventually began digging into the earth below.
Soon I hit what I thought was a rock and almost cast the "rock" aside before somehow realizing what it was.
I had to peel back sinew from around one end of the "rock" and the earth around the rock had a mysterious dirty "fleshyness" to it.
What I revealed was a PERFECT gray arrowhead. The nicest I've ever seen in my life ... perfect.

I sat in the sandbox for some time just pondering the arrowhead ... and imagining.
After a time, I felt the presence of a Native American man but some distance away in a general westerly direction.
I "saw" a hunter in buckskin loincloth, long black hair braided and arranged ... a bow and arrow quiver.
Of course all this was an image in my mind but in my mind, it all came alive.

I could "see" the Native American. I knew the direction from which he fired his arrow which he had lost.
And I held his arrow in the palm of my hand. A labor of his, requiring some effort and surely he regretted losing it.

Years later and on reflection, I came to think the hunter had wounded an animal that scampered off and died well away. Dunno.

Thing was though, over the years as a kid, I would find a couple more arrowheads on top of the ground on our property.
I'd also find a couple more arrowheads on a gravel bar at the creek down behind the house and off in the woods.
The woods in which I spent many MANY youthful hours just wandering and enjoying alone. Mama only required I be home at dark.

So what happened to that arrowhead I dug ... well, in one of the elementary grades and at school, I traded it for some other treasure.
And still kicking myself for not having that arrowhead on a necklace today. What I wouldn't give to have that gift back ...

@Alligatorob ... I've been back to Moundville several times since the 5th grade field trip and always feel a special peace there.
One thing that was closed in the museum in the 70's was the archeologically excavated graves of Native Americans.
The grave site is still within the walls (or adjacent area) of that museum but no longer available for public viewing.
They may have been covered back over and the museum made slightly smaller maybe.
That area of the museum was closed off at the request of present day Native Americans in Alabama.
On the 5th grade field trip, that area of the museum was open. I want to say there are about 20 remains of all ages.
But there could easily be many more ... just don't remember for sure. They were all buried and in close proximity.
Of particular interest was the skeletal remains of a man said to be 7ft tall. A remarkable height for anyone during that period of history.
This is so wonderful! Children are particularly aware of spiritual entities.
I used to spend my days barefoot at the Yellowstone River, not far from my home. Almost every time I went there,
I "saw" many scantily clad young American Blackfoot Indians wading with me in the river. They would show me Moss Agates
and Quartz, petrified wood. ( all of which I collected). They tried to talk to me but I couldn't understand them.
Another time, much later, I saw vividly an American Indian chieftain all in white leather with with a full long white head dress.
(a ghost) My family was there with me but no one saw him but me. He stood there about 20 minutes before he disappeared.
He was SO REAL and STERN!

I ABSOLUTELY believe your sighting was real! I, like you, was alone and ventured up and down the river and in the caves.
Rattlesnakes were everywhere. (stepped on a huge one once) I never mentioned my adventures to anyone. and, like you, didn't go home until 5 o clock.
There is something connecting you to this heritage, which I can't explain but embrace it!
 
@Gaer ... The Woods Behind My Childhood Home ...

There were 3 creeks and a couple of farm ponds in the woods down behind the house and I explored them often although they weren't on our property. I began exploring those woods from the age of six. Mama only required I be home at dark.

With that much woods, scattered pastures and water, there were MANY snakes of all kinds. I only ever saw one rattlesnake and one coral snake. Water Moccasins was the most prevalent venomous variety. I swear I got to where I could just sense a snake nearby. I could smell it.

One day on a farm pond that was formed by beavers damming the overflow of a larger farm pond and on which I could fish undetected I had the scariest snake experience of my youth. I was walking across the beaver dam when something at my feet caught my eye. There in twisted and tangled limbs of the beaver dam between my feet was a Water Moccasin moving in the dam. All I could see was the size of the snakes body and it was much bigger than my forearm. The snakes body glistened in the bright summer sun and I could not tell which direction the snake was moving. Just shimmering skin. I could not see its head nor its tail ... just a large glistening snakes body moving between my feet. I SWEAR it startled me so sharply that I leaped straight up in the air about three feet and moved horizontally off the beaver dam and six feet away ALL in one movement. Adrenaline is great HA !!! Was the largest Water Moccasin I'd ever see in those woods !!! HUGE

And I loved to sneak off and fish those farm ponds. I tried getting permission from owners of the ponds to fish and was refused. Alrighty then. I (most) always put back the fish I caught. I filed down the barbs on the fish hooks so I could easily release the fish without tearing flesh.

And what about bait? ... I never had any money to buy bait. SOooo ... I'd knock down wasp nests from under the eves of our house and use the larva the nests contained. I'd pull back the grass from the edges of the house foundation and catch crickets. I used balls of bread dough when I could sneak a slice or two of bread from Mama's kitchen. I carefully used the screen off my bedroom window and sink it to the bottom of the creek ... and after a moment or two ... swiftly pull the screen up and remove the minnows for fishing in the farm ponds. Always putting the screen back before mama knew it was missing. I used hair off squirrels and thread from my mother's sewing kit to fashion small lures. I knew where there was a Catalpa Tree in the woods and would pick Catalpa Worms off it in season. I loved fishing ... and I was going to go fishing.

Wild blackberries by the buckets full and smashed in milk and sugar was a real treat. I'm sure there were many other berries and fruits I just didn't know were safe to eat and I was self taught. There were Persimmon Trees but I found I didn't like their fruit at all. Wish someone could have shown me what those woods were really about.

As a young child I remember seeing migrating birds in flocks so large they darkened the sky for seemingly several minutes. Coveys of Quail too numerous to mention. Squirrels that would gather together in groups so large they sounded like a flock of birds moving through the trees and down to the creeks in the evenings for water. Quite a commotion. There were beaver, rabbits and many deer in those woods. I loved all of it. It was a wonderful childhood, down a dirt road in rural Alabama. Just wonderful.
 
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@Gaer ... The Woods Behind My Childhood Home ...

There were 3 creeks and a couple of farm ponds in the woods down behind the house and I explored them often although they weren't on our property. I began exploring those woods from the age of six. Mama only required I be home at dark.

With that much woods, scattered pastures and water, there were MANY snakes of all kinds. I only ever saw one rattlesnake and one coral snake. Water Moccasins was the most prevalent venomous variety. I swear I got to where I could just sense a snake nearby. I could smell it.

One day on a farm pond that was formed by beavers damming the overflow of a larger farm pond and on which I could fish undetected I had the scariest snake experience of my youth. I was walking across the beaver dam when something at my feet caught my eye. There in twisted and tangled limbs of the beaver dam between my feet was a Water Moccasin moving in the dam. All I could see was the size of the snakes body and it was much bigger than my forearm. The snakes body glistened in the bright summer sun and I could not tell which direction the snake was moving. Just shimmering skin. I could not see its head nor its tail ... just a large glistening snakes body moving between my feet. I SWEAR it startled me so sharply that I leaped straight up in the air about three feet and moved horizontally off the beaver dam and six feet away ALL in one movement. Adrenaline is great HA !!! Was the largest Water Moccasin I'd ever see in those woods !!! HUGE

And I loved to sneak off and fish those farm ponds. I tried getting permission from owners of the ponds to fish and was refused. Alrighty then. I (most) always put back the fish I caught. I filed down the barbs on the fish hooks so I could easily release the fish without tearing flesh.

And what about bait? ... I never had any money to buy bait. SOooo ... I'd knock down wasp nests from under the eves of our house and use the larva the nests contained. I'd pull back the grass from the edges of the house foundation and catch crickets. I used balls of bread dough when I could sneak a slice or two of bread from Mama's kitchen. I carefully used the screen off my bedroom window and sink it to the bottom of the creek ... and after a moment or two ... swiftly pull the screen up and remove the minnows for fishing in the farm ponds. Always putting the screen back before mama knew it was missing. I used hair off squirrels and thread from my mother's sewing kit to fashion small lures. I knew where there was a Catalpa Tree in the woods and would pick Catalpa Worms off it in season. I loved fishing ... and I was going to go fishing.

Wild blackberries by the buckets full and smashed in milk and sugar was a real treat. I'm sure there were many other berries and fruits I just didn't know were safe to eat and I was self taught. There were Persimmon Trees but I found I didn't like their fruit at all. Wish someone could have shown me what those woods were really about.

As a young child I remember seeing migrating birds in flocks so large they darkened the sky for seemingly several minutes. Flocks of Quail too numerous to mention. Squirrels that would gather together in groups so large they sounded like a flock of birds moving through the trees and down to the creeks in the evenings for water. Quite a commotion. There were beaver and many deer in those woods. I loved all of it. It was a wonderful childhood, down a dirt road in rural Alabama. Just wonderful.
Wow! You were FEARLESS! What a wonderful, adventurous childhood you had! Amazing!
 
Wow! You were FEARLESS! What a wonderful, adventurous childhood you had! Amazing!

Thank you @Gaer ... your words are kind and way too generous ma'am.
I could have spent my time studying nuclear physics or inventing a computer or something I guess ... but I truly loved just being a kid wandering those woods ... at least until about 14 or 15 and girls HA ... even then I made time for those woods.
 
I knew where there was a Catalpa Tree in the woods and would pick Catalpa Worms off it in season.
my father always kept a Catalpa tree growing in our yard. He fished a lot. Most people now don’t want a Catalpa tree in their yard due to the caterpillars.
Growing up we always called it a Catawba tree. It wasn’t until years later when I saw the word written did I realize it was Catalpa.

The key to enjoying a native Persimmon tree fruit is to only eat one if you are sure it is ripe. Biting into an unripe persimmon is a mistake you’ll only make once.
 

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