The Enduring Nature of Successful TV Series

JustDave

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I'm not sure why some endure and others carry on to a brilliant finale, where the ending completes a the series with a sense of closure. But in my personal viewing, I experience a lot of series that just die but muddle on without me.

Sometimes the Network cancels a good show and even causes an uproar from a dedicated following. I write that off to bad management, but management is probably more concerned with money than great viewing.

Sometimes the series just doesn't interest me, but goes on anyway. I write that off to personal differences.

But what perplexes me are those series that start off with a great premise and exciting episodes that are so good that I even start buying a couple of seasons of DVDs for future viewing, but then they reach a point where it seems like the writers and producers run out of creativity. There's still a lot more that could be milked out of a good beginning and a solid premise... or maybe not. But the scripts seem to be written with writers deciding to have these character do this or that, while losing the direction that was so important at the beginning.

I have invested in too many "half collections" of series where I saw no point in continuing buying them. There have even been shows long ended that I picked up a year or so after they were over, where I bought the whole series, only to loose interest after two or three seasons. Those bother me.

On the opposite end of this, I picked up on shows long over that I don't know how I missed in the first place, and watch over and over still. Smallville, Breaking Bad, Dexter, Downton Abby, and almost all of the Stargate sequels. And don't forget StarTrek.

What causes a potentially good series to lose it's steam? What makes the difference for other viewers that leads to a series that endures or those that die?
 

Probably a lot more than we know behind the camera. Actors wanting more pay or getting offered a bigger more promising role.
Writers leaving work due to whatever happens in life. Sometimes if you follow a series and they change writers later in the series
you can tell, they are lost and the acting shows it. Spiffs between the actors too, So much can be the reason.
 
I think a lot of the writers are running out of ideas because we've pretty much seen it all. Maybe AI will help in that instance. But if the plot is no good to begin with it will nose dive regardless. I love the Taylor Sheridan series of shows except for one of them that I don't care for. They are very deep and the characters are well written as well as the plot. The man has like 4 or 5 of them going at once. He's very creative and I like that.

Some of the shows I've seen are not what I call entertainment but just plain stupid. But those have their own audience. I'm more of a sitcom gal but finding good ones is proving difficult anymore.

I don't buy anything on DVD unless they complete an entire series that I want to watch over and over. I have Big Bang Theory & Seinfeld all of the seasons. I would get more but the DVD players are now the new HD ones and I have no plans to buy another. Otherwise I'd get the set of Yellowstone if I could.

Some shows just hit with the majority and some don't. I notice on the streaming services some that got cancelled after only one season end up there. But I'm guessing a lot of it has to do with the Neilson ratings. In my entire life I've never been asked to be a Neilson rater. I don't know how they pick them. I think they need to mix it up a little more though. LOL
 

I've noticed over the years a show would start getting bad when they introduce a love interest in. Now a days the writing is pretty bad. They drag it out with nonsense dialogue. By the 4th episode I'm usually done with it.
 
I don't know the exact magic that keeps any show good long term. But the more interesting question to me is endings, are they good or bad and why? For ex, Breaking Bad had a dynamite (no pun intended!) ending in that it was creative suspenseful and gave real closure, while the Sopranos was just a big dud.
 
Yeah, it's as if the series is ending, and no one cares anymore. Given that there is no 100% agreement about what shows are good and what are bad, I can explain why most of my grievance is just personal taste. The next likely suspect is writer burnout. I think we watch the high paid actors, who do earn their keep in my opinion, and forget the importance of writers, as if that part isn't as important. I don't think writers get enough credit. These are not just people with good spelling and grammar habits. This is the center of creativity.
 
Although I've never researched it, I get the impression that American series continuation is based purely on revenue (via popularity), whereas Brit series seem to take a more artistic approach. If so, that may have more to do with how each country's revenue is acquired.
 
I'm guessing a lot of it has to do with the Neilson ratings. In my entire life I've never been asked to be a Neilson rater. I don't know how they pick them. I think they need to mix it up a little more though. LOL
We've been contacted by the Neilsen people several times over the years. We've never responded. I honestly think they'd be disappointed. We don't have cable or OTA television, only a Roku device, and we don't watch a lot of programming. :rolleyes:
 
We've been contacted by the Neilsen people several times over the years. We've never responded. I honestly think they'd be disappointed. We don't have cable or OTA television, only a Roku device, and we don't watch a lot of programming. :rolleyes:
We had cable and OTA tv our entire lives and never got chosen. I do all streaming now so I would be useless.
 
Yeah, it's as if the series is ending, and no one cares anymore. Given that there is no 100% agreement about what shows are good and what are bad, I can explain why most of my grievance is just personal taste. The next likely suspect is writer burnout. I think we watch the high paid actors, who do earn their keep in my opinion, and forget the importance of writers, as if that part isn't as important. I don't think writers get enough credit. These are not just people with good spelling and grammar habits. This is the center of creativity.
Hear hear! As a writer myself, it's good to see someone supporting us! (I never wrote for TV, however).
 

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