To Travel, Or Not To Travel

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Today, United Airlines gave a press release stating that their future domestic bookings are down 70%. They have also stated that there will be additional cutbacks on flights, including some cancellations. This news did not come unexpected. American and Delta will most likely repeat the same message in the coming days.

I would imagine that the cruise lines and Amtrak are in the same predicament. The travel industry may come to a standstill. This is sure to affect those employed in the travel industry through layoffs and possibly send some people into forced retirement like it did in 2009-2010.

I have no idea how much of travel is figured into our GDP, but it would not surprise me if the government came up with some type of stimulus package. This being an election year, I am sure that those running for office may try and use this terrible event to their advantage somehow. (I know that I am walking a fine line, so I’ll stop here.)

Happy Tuesday, everyone.
 

I think that United is allowing free changes through 3/31 for now.

I intend to fly down to Florida next month, unless the airlines discontinue altogether, which is unlikely to happen, but one never knows what lies past the horizon.

If I was still able to be in the cockpit, I would have no reservations about flying.

We were supposed to fly to Italy/Greece this summer, but have cancelled. Luckily, we took out trip insurance that pays back for any reason, so we have applied for a refund and received a letter letting us know that our request was approved and that we should be receiving our refund in 2-3 weeks.

We cancelled this trip last summer because my sister came down with Sepsis and got a refund then, as well.
 
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The longer this virus issue lingers, without resolution, the more the travel, tourist, hotel and live entertainment industries are going to suffer. Cruise ships will remain tied up at the docks for weeks, or more, and airlines will be looking for space to park their planes. Hotels will be half full, at best, and things like movie theaters may start closing down. I doubt that sports stadiums will reach anywhere near capacity crowds during this crisis.
 
Don M. said:
The longer this virus issue lingers, without resolution, the more the travel, tourist, hotel and live entertainment industries are going to suffer. Cruise ships will remain tied up at the docks for weeks, or more, and airlines will be looking for space to park their planes. Hotels will be half full, at best, and things like movie theaters may start closing down. I doubt that sports stadiums will reach anywhere near capacity crowds during this crisis.
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It's already affecting sports in the US

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coro...teams-playing-in-closed-arenas-194531173.html
 
Don M. said:
The longer this virus issue lingers, without resolution, the more the travel, tourist, hotel and live entertainment industries are going to suffer. Cruise ships will remain tied up at the docks for weeks, or more, and airlines will be looking for space to park their planes. Hotels will be half full, at best, and things like movie theaters may start closing down. I doubt that sports stadiums will reach anywhere near capacity crowds during this crisis.
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The reach is yet unknown, your words are both true and wise.

We need @Gary O' s wit and humor all the more, as the days appear to darken, for they carry us to a happier place for at least a time.
 
I hope it's all gone on April 30.....Or earlier....

My husband answered his cell phone....He doesn't really answer a number he doesn't know...So he picked up the phone
and a person told him he won a trip on a Ship....He was laughing....It seems we put our name in for a prize....This was the prize...
Hubby said No Thank You....He hung up!!!
 
peppermint said:
I hope it's all gone on April 30.....Or earlier....

My husband answered his cell phone....He doesn't really answer a number he doesn't know...So he picked up the phone
and a person told him he won a trip on a Ship....He was laughing....It seems we put our name in for a prize....This was the prize...
Hubby said No Thank You....He hung up!!!
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It was a one way ticket - no doubt. 🤪
 
oldman said:
Today, United Airlines gave a press release stating that their future domestic bookings are down 70%. They have also stated that there will be additional cutbacks on flights, including some cancellations. This news did not come unexpected. American and Delta will most likely repeat the same message in the coming days.
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I would imagine that the cruise lines and Amtrak are in the same predicament. The travel industry may come to a standstill. This is sure to affect those employed in the travel industry through layoffs and possibly send some people into forced retirement like it did in 2009-2010.

I have no idea how much of travel is figured into our GDP, but it would not surprise me if the government came up with some type of stimulus package. This being an election year, I am sure that those running for office may try and use this terrible event to their advantage somehow. (I know that I am walking a fine line, so I’ll stop here.)

Happy Tuesday, everyone.
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Stop the panic. This is not the Black Plague. Figure the odds of you getting the virus.
 
I read that 85% of the World's population have never flown in an airplane. I also read that only 5% have flown. Are these numbers close to the truth?
 
RadishRose said:
The US imposed a travel ban I think starting today, for all countries except the UK.
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yes very odd that.. the only country which is not going to be closing anythng , or preventing large gatherings over 1000 people like football matches, or festivals , or closing schools, is the only country your president will allow the people to enter the USA.....

I was just wondering how that will work.. I would be thinking that many people will travel from Europe to the UK and then fly to the USA...
 
Meanderer said:
I read that 85% of the World's population have never flown in an airplane. I also read that only 5% have flown. Are these numbers close to the truth?
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I can't imagine they are... I think it might be the other way around... I think 85% of the population is in all airports at any one time.... have you been in any airports lately.? (not currently during the virus scare) ... my goodness it's like the whole world is in them regardless of which country you're in...
 
Shocking charts show how the UK Government could prevent hundreds or even thousands of deaths by taking dramatic action now to fight the killer coronavirus and 'flatten the curve' of its spiralling epidemic.

Prime Minister Boris Johnson today decided not to move forward in Britain's fight against COVID-19, declining to close schools, send people home from work or ban large gatherings.

But he is coming under intense scrutiny for refusing to budge – one frustrated scientist warned: 'Now is the time for the UK government to ban large gatherings, ask people to stop non-essential travel, recommend employers shift to home working and ramp up the response.'

Official advice currently doesn't go much further than telling citizens to wash their hands even though the UK now has more cases than China did when Wuhan's 11million people were forced into lockdown.

Scientists and critics are urging the Government to do more to prolong an inevitable surge in cases, saying that a spike of infections could cripple the NHS but spreading the cases over a longer period of time would 'flatten the curve' and make it easier for the nation to cope.

An analysis of statistics has shown that areas that acted fast have slashed their death rates by up to eight times compared to those who react after the virus has taken hold.

In South Korea, for example, an area home to 2.5million people was put into lockdown when just 204 people had been diagnosed and one had died. The country now has a death rate of just 0.8 per cent despite more than 7,800 cases.

But in Italy, large-scale lockdowns were not brought in until Sunday, March 8, by which time it had more than 5,800 patients. There are now almost 12,500 and 827 deaths – a death rate of 6.6 per cent.
 
Hollydolly, this was part of the response by a BBC correspondent..

Other countries are closing schools, restricting movement and cancelling mass gatherings, such as football matches.

But health officials in the UK are taking a much more gradual, step-by-step approach. Why?

The obvious answer is that we have a relatively low number of cases so there is no need to take steps that will have profound social and economic consequences.

But we are also in this for the long haul. Countries taking drastic steps may well slow transmission. But how long can those steps be sustained?

At some point they have to be lifted and then the number of cases will rise.

If you can have some kind of controlled transmission, where the number of cases are kept low enough to allow the NHS to cope, is that a better way of managing it?

That's certainly what the experts and ministers in the UK have decided. They believe it gives them the best chance of saving lives in the inevitable spread of the virus across the country.

I think that this must be handled carefully to avoid not only a bigger economic disaster, but also badly damaging the morale of the people.

I've regrettably decided to cancel our planned trip to Vienna and Bratislava next week. We weren't too concerned about the virus, but the Austrian and Slovak governments decided to shut virtually all tourist attractions even when they had very low case numbers.

Anyway, we did not suffer financially - only a few Euro in cancellation fees. We'll go for our anniversary in September, all being well.

Stay well and wash your hands while singing "Always look on the bright side of life"
 
Meanderer said:
I read that 85% of the World's population have never flown in an airplane. I also read that only 5% have flown. Are these numbers close to the truth?
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I wouldn’t be surprised if they are at least close to being correct. But, these are very interesting statistics.
 
hollydolly said:
I can't imagine they are... I think it might be the other way around... I think 85% of the population is in all airports at any one time.... have you been in any airports lately.? (not currently during the virus scare) ... my goodness it's like the whole world is in them regardless of which country you're in...
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I am talking about 85% of the WORLD population.
 
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