Trumps big mouth cost him bigtime

Bob, the truth bothers people who have decided they are correct regardless of the facts.
They call us IDIOTS and evidently looking at Jim's post we are not allowed here. ;)
 
QuickSilver said:
I understand that Reince Priebus chairman of the RNC made a call to Trump to try to get him to tone down the rhetorid

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/08/politics/donald-trump-reince-priebus-immigrants-rnc/index.html

What I would love to know is WHO are these people that are polling for Trump.. What kind of people are they? Angry? Bigots? What base is he appealing to?
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He still is polling up in many polls because unchecked immigration is a bigger issue than we are lead to believe. People see it. To get the poll numbers and reaction the issue of illegal immigration hit a nerve on both sides. Just bringing up the issue instantaneously puts many into a defensive posture because they know what's been going on but can't believe anyone has the audacity to talk about it, they thought illegal immigration was like fight club-never talk about it. Then you have those that have been paying attention to the issue going 'finally, someone willing to talk about it, deal with it'

Like it or not Trump has the best solution to stall and reduce illegal immigration. Secure the border 100% or as close as possible. Without a defined and secure borders any country is that much less of a nation. Amnesty, penalties and deportations are associated issues that need dealing with but securing the borders is half the battle. To me the second half is follow through on enforcement of existing laws and procedures to deal with illegal aliens. That doesn't mean they can't speed up or enhance the legal immigration process.

The RNC just wants to appease their desired voter which makes them wishy washy and quite frankly ineffective. The DNC is doing the same with corporate America which is why Bernie Sanders is showing strong support now. In the end the establishment leadership in both parties will put us in a time machine to the 1990s.
 
WhatInThe said:
He still is polling up in many polls because unchecked immigration is a bigger issue than we are lead to believe. People see it. To get the poll numbers and reaction the issue of illegal immigration hit a nerve on both sides. Just bringing up the issue instantaneously puts many into a defensive posture because they know what's been going on but can't believe anyone has the audacity to talk about it, they thought illegal immigration was like fight club-never talk about it. Then you have those that have been paying attention to the issue going 'finally, someone willing to talk about it, deal with it'

Like it or not Trump has the best solution to stall and reduce illegal immigration. Secure the border 100% or as close as possible. Without a defined and secure borders any country is that much less of a nation. Amnesty, penalties and deportations are associated issues that need dealing with but securing the borders is half the battle. To me the second half is follow through on enforcement of existing laws and procedures to deal with illegal aliens. That doesn't mean they can't speed up or enhance the legal immigration process.

The RNC just wants to appease their desired voter which makes them wishy washy and quite frankly ineffective. The DNC is doing the same with corporate America which is why Bernie Sanders is showing strong support now. In the end the establishment leadership in both parties will put us in a time machine to the 1990s.
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Except most of what TRUMP says is Untrue... Most of his immigration talk is simply right wing talking points and propaganda.. I suppose though that is what the far right wants to hear.. so of course that is why he is up in the polls... considering WHO is being polled.
 
QuickSilver said:
Except most of what TRUMP says is Untrue... Most of his immigration talk is simply right wing talking points and propaganda.. I suppose though that is what the far right wants to hear.. so of course that is why he is up in the polls... considering WHO is being polled.
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Perhaps to the extent and words Trump used to put it is 'untrue' but the murder in San Francisco and DUI accident Arizona are just a few examples of the consequences of unchecked immigration. That doesn't include things like fraud, id theft, tax evasion etc. And there is a frustration with many Americans and unions that they are losing work to foreigners period. The reaction to the trade treaties verify that among other things. Trump was wrong to focus on Mexico which is definately "a" problem because I've seen just as much immigration issues stemming from south Americans and Caribbean let alone Europe and Canada. It's not a vast right wing conspiracy this time.
 

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