What do think about "Brexit"?

Capt Lightning said:
Exactly Laurie. We had a referendum, we expected the politicians to carry out our wishes. They have failed to do the job they were elected to do. AND, of course those on the 'losing' side want another referendum because they didn't like the result of the first one. Leave means Leave. I wish the politicians would get that into their thick heads.
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The crux of the matter is in your first line "We had a referendum". By that time the damage was done.

The constitution, admittedly unwritten but quite comprehensible for all that, does not relay on referenda, but elected representatives. They failed.
 

retiredtraveler said:
I'm surprised. You believe that there is more upside to leaving than sticking with the EU? If so, I'm really curious as I have followed Brexit all these years. But, of course, it depends on where we're getting our source of info.
What positive changes will happen with Brexit? I don't see any upside, but I may not be reading the 'positive side' of things.
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To reduce it to basics, why should Austria, without an inch of coastline, get a vote on how much fish Maltese fishermen can rake from Scottish waters, while Scotland, which has more coastline than Norway, has no say in it, while Scottish fishermen, denied a quota, have to stay in port and watch their livelihood disappearing?

That is why, paradoxically when (not if) Scotland gets Independence, I shall vote to join the EU. At least then Scotland will have a vote (for background I am not a Scot, I'm an incomer).
 
Laurie said:
To reduce it to basics, why should Austria, without an inch of coastline, get a vote on how much fish Maltese fishermen can rake from Scottish waters, while Scotland, which has more coastline than Norway, has no say in it, while Scottish fishermen, denied a quota, have to stay in port and watch their livelihood disappearing?.... I shall vote to join the EU. At least then Scotland will have a vote (for background I am not a Scot, I'm an incomer).
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Ok. You're looking at a single issue that means something to you. My understanding (unless I'm reading 'fake news') is that the UK economy has already shrunk by 2%. Business is leaving. And that's without a deal. There are so many dire warnings that may come to pass: Stores say supplly chains from the EU will be disrupted. And, of course, the pound sterling has really hit bottom. Good for my trips, no good for you lot.
The worst case I have read about in the past is that London would not be the big financial center any longer. Large banks and insurance companies would relocate. If that were to happen, the economic devastation will go up exponentially.
 

retiredtraveler said:
Ok. You're looking at a single issue that means something to you. My understanding (unless I'm reading 'fake news') is that the UK economy has already shrunk by 2%. Business is leaving. And that's without a deal. There are so many dire warnings that may come to pass: Stores say supplly chains from the EU will be disrupted. And, of course, the pound sterling has really hit bottom. Good for my trips, no good for you lot.
The worst case I have read about in the past is that London would not be the big financial center any longer. Large banks and insurance companies would relocate. If that were to happen, the economic devastation will go up exponentially.
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You're operating under the mistaken belief that Scotland to leave the EU.

It doesn't, and voted to remain. Unfortunately England, who controls these matters, says "You'll do as you're to'd. You're leaving".

Last year thousands of tons of soft fruits rotted on the vines because the students from the mainland, the traditional pickers, were unsure of the reception they'd get and, looking to the future, have looked elsewhere for their summer employment.
 
retiredtraveler said:
Oh no. I've been into this since the beginning and know the demographics of leave/stay. But yes, I know the UK, as a whole, passed it, so Scotland is stuck.
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Doesn't matter what the UK passes,
it's what England says that count

They have more votes than all the others put together, and we live in a democracy.
 

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