What do y'all think of this Freddie Grey an other cases

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I'm watching the news an I see the police got off. No charges again any of them for this poor guys death. Ot the other ones either,what do y'all
think of that. What has happened to our America, where is the justice in that. I saw where they drug him to the van but then he stood up so he
was able to walk. The guy shot in Florida with his hands up. When asked why the cop shot him his repy was"I don't know". We need to get a
handle on this type of action. No wonder their so angry, we would be to. I'm a Democrat have always been a Demo an I believe justice for all.
It would seem we are moving backwards not forward, an it's just not right to shoot someone because of the color of their skin. What do y'all think.
 

"....an it's just not right to shoot someone because of the color of their skin. What do y'all think".

I think you are right - if the skin color was the factor that caused a shooting, that is wrong.

Now, how about rioting and looting over the fraud known as "hands up don't shoot" about a guy trying to take police officer's gun? How about politicizing that fiasco?
 
There are right an wrong cases ,that one that you mention the guy was in the wrong. BUT, the one with the guy already on the ground with the police
on top of him was wrong. Or the guy in Fl with his hands up an him on the ground. Why did you shoot me ???? was the question. The cop replies
''I DON'T KNOW''. was wrong.....period. The boy in Fl ,Jordan Davis with the loud music , the guy who sot him had had to much to drink an played
Marshall Dillion an murdered this young boy, REALLY!!!! Micheal Dunn will spend the rest of his life in prison, do ya know the biggest people pop in prison,
blacks. He will get what he deserves for the rest of his life.
 

First off I want to say that I've known more than a few police officers. Being a cop in an urban area can be one of the scariest and most thankless jobs out there. But as much as you're scared, overworked, and underpaid, you don't have a get out of jail free card. It's frickin' 2016, we've had an African American president, we might have a female president next, and yet it's still as ugly as the old days when they could lynch folks without punishment.
 
I wanted to be when I was a teen...now I could probably pass the physical healthier than before but the age cutoff is 35. I think they should allow for older recruits. It's a dangerous world out there. But being 54 and dying in the line of duty is less shattering than an officer who is 24...just IMHO.
 
We've all seen it time and time again via live aerial helicopter reports and by news crews live on the scene.

It's kinda funny how a lot (not all) of the protests / riots over cops being cleared in a shooting of a minority end up including burning cars, trashing neighborhoods and looting.......I guess they wrongly feel that by breaking into stores and stealing big screen tv's, six pairs of Nikes and burning down the local neighborhood grocery store furthers their cause and makes cops (and the general public) be more sympathetic, understanding and respectful of their feelings the next time a incident / arrest occurs.
 
I think that in these cases you are talking about, the public hears the sensational media spin, which often doesn't bear much resemblance to what is presented in court. back when I was working, I was often amazed by stuff that appeared in the press, alleged to be the truth, when in fact it was WAY off -- which is one of the reasons judges always ask jurors if they've read a lot about it in the press and if they've formed any opinions. The press can make two old drunks slugging it out in an alley sound like WWIII, and vice versa.
 
I can see both sides here, there are those that have a very real and legitimate reason to protest and they do protest peacefully, they are not ALL burning down Dixie or trashing cars and there are law enforcers that are overwhelmed with destructive meaningless protesting, like anything else, I guess this is where painting with a broad brush comes in.
 
IKE said:
We've all seen it time and time again via live aerial helicopter reports and by news crews live on the scene.

It's kinda funny how a lot (not all) of the protests / riots over cops being cleared in a shooting of a minority end up including burning cars, trashing neighborhoods and looting.......I guess they wrongly feel that by breaking into stores and stealing big screen tv's, six pairs of Nikes and burning down the local neighborhood grocery store furthers their cause and makes cops (and the general public) be more sympathetic, understanding and respectful of their feelings the next time a incident / arrest occurs.
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The looters are the criminal element in the community that take advantage of the breakdown in order, during widespread civil disobedience. The looters are not "the" protesters, but opportunists.
 
Here lately the burning an looting have ceased as far as I can see. They are peacefully protesting. The boy I spoke of ,Jordan Davis, was from here.
An people did protest but it wasn't riots or burning of anything. It was sad an everyday I listened to the Mom an Dad of Jordan. My heart broke for them.
Seems they are learning to control their emotions, will they always prob not but for that time they did. I know many of our police officers here in Jax. They
work hard an are on the job in some of our roughest places. But where does it all end ? When do we all start acting like humans an respect each other.
 
It seems that there is One factor that could eliminate the vast majority of these "police" incidents...Obey The Law. Then, if stopped by the police, a person should obey the requests of that policeman, and keep Their Big Mouths Shut. This recent use of cell phones and body cameras recording many of these confrontations seems to show that the "victim" was often being verbally abusive and confrontational with the police. A policeman is, after all, only human, and if he is confronted by someone who is aggressive, and refuses to obey even the simplest request, things can quickly get out of hand. No doubt, there are some people wearing a badge who should be removed from the ranks, but it seems to me that in the vast majority of cases, it is Not the cop who escalates the situation.
 
I agree on that DonM but the guy in Fl did that an the cop still shot him. On the others, you are right if they would just get one the ground an shut up
alot of this stuff wouldn't happen. I ask myself why they don't but someone has got to start somewhere ,an not shoot these idiots who can't seem to get
it thru there heads. Course the boy who attended the Universitey stil was treated the same way. I don't have an ans but someone needs to figure it out.
 
Yea, we never did get the whole story. From what I remember he dropped his bike an took off. Looking suspicious the cops ran after an caught him.
But when I saw them putting him in the wagon he was dragging his feet but then stood up so not sure what the problem was. An I guess we will never know
but something is not right there.
 
If I had a black boy child 16+, I would be scared to death. I would caution him to put his wallet with his driver license on the seat beside him when driving down the street. But in Montgomery, Al, I don't feel that would be necessary. I believe the police have a good rapport with black and white. I hope I'm not wrong about this.
 
Hi Charlotta. I lived in Huntsville for a while and I had the same feeling. That was many years ago, though, and I don't know how things are there now. I LOVED Huntsville, except for the summers. Whew -- heat AND humidity!
 
Yes, the heat is unbearable in the summer here,but nice most winter days. Of course we Montgomerians think it is too cold in Hntsvlle in wintertime.
I, usually, head for the north in summer, but have not done so this summer.
 
The officers were over charged and/or charged too quickly before a winnable slam dunk prosecution case could've been made. They should've been happy with lesser or misconduct charges and/or to get those officers fired, suspended or demoted and more importantly change policy to prevent it from happening again.
 
Don M. said:
It seems that there is One factor that could eliminate the vast majority of these "police" incidents...Obey The Law. Then, if stopped by the police, a person should obey the requests of that policeman, and keep Their Big Mouths Shut. This recent use of cell phones and body cameras recording many of these confrontations seems to show that the "victim" was often being verbally abusive and confrontational with the police. A policeman is, after all, only human, and if he is confronted by someone who is aggressive, and refuses to obey even the simplest request, things can quickly get out of hand. No doubt, there are some people wearing a badge who should be removed from the ranks, but it seems to me that in the vast majority of cases, it is Not the cop who escalates the situation.
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EXACTLY My sentiments Don. Even the Miranda law advises you to KEEP YOUR BIG MOUTH SHUT !
Down the line you'll be given your chance to state your case.
 
WhatInThe said:
The officers were over charged and/or charged too quickly before a winnable slam dunk prosecution case could've been made. They should've been happy with lesser or misconduct charges and/or to get those officers fired, suspended or demoted and more importantly change policy to prevent it from happening again.
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I emphatically agree. Overcharging lets a lot of people walk because what they did doesn't really meet the threshold of proof for the higher offense; and unless charged, judge or jury doesn't have an option to find guilt of a lesser charge. The act either meets the criteria for the crime charged, or it doesn't; if it doesn't, not guilty is the only option.
 
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