Woman killed over not saying 'thank you'

[Lara]

When I do something for someone I don't expect anything in return. I believe my reward will be in heaven.
And I don't do it for that either. I do it because it feels good and it's the right thing

 

[Oldeagle66]

I wouldn't kill over it, but I stopped holding doors anymore for these rude young women today. The older women, yes. I've had few who just roll their eyes. Nope.....I don't care how many bags they have.

 

[Oldeagle66]

Yes, it is, and yes, we can.

All she has to do was be kind, appreciative like people used to be raised and say "Thank you". She'd still be here today. Nothing to do with guns laws.

 

[PeppermintPatty]

All she has to do was be kind, appreciative like people used to be raised and say "Thank you". She'd still be here today. Nothing to do with guns laws.

So you’re blaming the victim for getting shot at? All she had to do was say thank you and she’d be alive today?
Unbelievable!

 

[OldFeller]

The Brief:

1. A woman was shot and killed outside a Dallas PetSmart on Tuesday following an argument that started over the suspect not saying "thank you" for a held door.

2. The victim, Cecilia Simpson, was shot multiple times after the dispute escalated into a physical fight in the parking lot.

3. Police have arrested 22-year-old Keona Zachyua Hampton, who is booked into the Dallas County Jail; a bond has not yet been set.

Full article: Woman killed outside Dallas PetSmart after argument over not saying 'thank you'

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I’m a door holder. If I see someone about to come out of the door I’m walking in, or I see them following me out, I’ll hold it open. 95% of the time they will say thank you. The other 5% when they don’t acknowledge my presence? I shrug my shoulders and keep on with my day. It is not worth losing your life over.

Your thoughts on this?

The news story exaggerated the cause and effect to get readers to click.

While the arguing started over holding a door, the two people arguing were going to argue anyway. The victim was looking to argue and the suspect got defensive.

 

[Pepper]

I do think that society today is over-heating. Meaning, extreme actions and beliefs are becoming more common, and people are throwing normal societal decorum out the window. People seem to be angry and hostile a lot of the time, and it's actually celebrated in comment sections, Facebook groups and the like. We seem to be simmering near boiling point the whole time as our civilization unwinds.

Every idiot now has something important to say. Idiots used to keep quiet about their idiocy. Now, with "social" media, they meet so many like minded idiots, they feel emboldened. Used to know better and keep their idiot mouths shut.

 

[Ruthanne]

There's a lot of people who shouldn't carry a gun or other weapons! It's very sad this happened. RIP

 

[George1959]

I wouldn't kill over it, but I stopped holding doors anymore for these rude young women today. The older women, yes. I've had few who just roll their eyes. Nope.....I don't care how many bags they have.

If a man holds the door open for a young woman nowadays it is possible that she sues him for sexual harassment.
For the older generation I do it gladly.

 

[IrishEyes]

If a man holds the door open for a young woman nowadays it is possible that she sues him for sexual harassment.
For the older generation I do it gladly.

@George1959 you made me remember my son telling me he held the door for 2 behind him and the one grabbed the door and
snarled "Oh, you PRESUME I am a woman and weak? I can hold my own damn door" So you just never know nowadays for
sure what reaction you may get by just trying to be decent.

 

[Oldeagle66]

So you’re blaming the victim for getting shot at? All she had to do was say thank you and she’d be alive today?
Unbelievable!

No, It's the rudeness going on today. I have actually seen a few a women phyiscally assaulted lately for just being rude. It's crazy out here.

 

[Della]

Do you mean this literally? I read your post more than once and just want to make sure I understand what you're saying.

I was saying what I thought the shooter was probably thinking (not me!) I think the murderer was so mad at being corrected for not saying thanks that she thought it was okay to shoot someone over it. Why would she have sashayed through a door held open for her by another woman, without saying, "Thanks?" Because she thought she was so special she deserved to have others do things for her. Entitlement.

I always say "thank you" too. However, if someone did not say it to me I certainly wouldn't let it ruin my day. I probably would not even give it a second thought. People are different and there is no way to know what is going through someone's mind.

The person who shot someone was not the person who held the door opened, but the one who had the door held open for her.
I doubt if the nice lady who held the door was expecting any big reward or was planning to let it ruin her day, but those of us who were taught good manners may get a bit irritated when others don't respond with a simple thanks. When the nice lady didn't get thanked she must have said something. Probably "You're welcome" which I've heard others say when they weren't thanked.

That's what angered the murderer, being corrected for not saying thanks. She shot the nice lady for saying that. It's the ultimate in, "No good deed goes unpunished."

There's an entire generation being brought up to expect doors held, gifts given, good grades awarded, -- just because. The last half dozen wedding/ baby/ graduation gifts I've given have received no card or word of thanks. I don't begrudge the expense or expect a reward, either here or in heaven, just a simple thanks.

 

[MACKTEXAS]

I was saying what I thought the shooter was probably thinking (not me!) I think the murderer was so mad at being corrected for not saying thanks that she thought it was okay to shoot someone over it. Why would she have sashayed through a door held open for her by another woman, without saying, "Thanks?" Because she thought she was so special she deserved to have others do things for her. Entitlement.

Thanks, Della. I read most of your posts and that one just didn't seem like you. Now I see how you meant it.

 

[Nathan]

I hold a door for those behind me, if they say or grunt a "thanks" that's OK. If they don't then I don't care.

 

[Oldeagle66]

I was saying what I thought the shooter was probably thinking (not me!) I think the murderer was so mad at being corrected for not saying thanks that she thought it was okay to shoot someone over it. Why would she have sashayed through a door held open for her by another woman, without saying, "Thanks?" Because she thought she was so special she deserved to have others do things for her. Entitlement.


The person who shot someone was not the person who held the door opened, but the one who had the door held open for her.
I doubt if the nice lady who held the door was expecting any big reward or was planning to let it ruin her day, but those of us who were taught good manners may get a bit irritated when others don't respond with a simple thanks. When the nice lady didn't get thanked she must have said something. Probably "You're welcome" which I've heard others say when they weren't thanked.

That's what angered the murderer, being corrected for not saying thanks. She shot the nice lady for saying that. It's the ultimate in, "No good deed goes unpunished."

There's an entire generation being brought up to expect doors held, gifts given, good grades awarded, -- just because. The last half dozen wedding/ baby/ graduation gifts I've given have received no card or word of thanks. I don't begrudge the expense or expect a reward, either here or in heaven, just a simple thanks.

Yes, it only takes a second to be kind.

 

[CallMeKate]

All she has to do was be kind, appreciative like people used to be raised and say "Thank you". She'd still be here today. Nothing to do with guns laws.

Actually it was the lady who didn't say thank you that did the murder, not the other way around.

 

[Naturally]

I wouldn't be shocked to learn the weapon was stolen ... or belonged to a relative of Keona Zachyua Hampton.

 

[DebraMae]

I was saying what I thought the shooter was probably thinking (not me!) I think the murderer was so mad at being corrected for not saying thanks that she thought it was okay to shoot someone over it. Why would she have sashayed through a door held open for her by another woman, without saying, "Thanks?" Because she thought she was so special she deserved to have others do things for her. Entitlement.


The person who shot someone was not the person who held the door opened, but the one who had the door held open for her.
I doubt if the nice lady who held the door was expecting any big reward or was planning to let it ruin her day, but those of us who were taught good manners may get a bit irritated when others don't respond with a simple thanks. When the nice lady didn't get thanked she must have said something. Probably "You're welcome" which I've heard others say when they weren't thanked.

That's what angered the murderer, being corrected for not saying thanks. She shot the nice lady for saying that. It's the ultimate in, "No good deed goes unpunished."

There's an entire generation being brought up to expect doors held, gifts given, good grades awarded, -- just because. The last half dozen wedding/ baby/ graduation gifts I've given have received no card or word of thanks. I don't begrudge the expense or expect a reward, either here or in heaven, just a simple thanks.

If the person who held the door open felt it necessary to say something sarcastic under her breath (not saying that she did but saying IF she did) then she did not do it out of kindness but because she wanted recognition for it. IMHO that should not be the purpose of a kind deed. I believe deeds done in kindness do not require outside recognition. Good deeds done in expectation of some kind of reward are not actually good deeds.

 

[Trish]

I held a door open for a young woman of 63 with walking aids, she said, "Thank you Darling, not many like you now." She gave me a really big smile and disappered into the store. That for me was a 'feel good' moment.

Well, that was a chat-up line if ever I heard one!

 

[Trish]

It's so sad that we live in a world where people can react so violently to such trivial things.

 

[VaughanJB]

I hold a door for those behind me, if they say or grunt a "thanks" that's OK. If they don't then I don't care.

For the record, that's me too. I hold doors open for people, male or female, because it was how I was brought up, and it's a nice thing to do without any real effort. It's just politeness.

Now, if someone says thank you, then fine - although being English, I find that a tad embarrassing. If not, that's fine too.

That such a frivolous argument argument would lead to murder is a symptom of our society today. Even if only for a fleeting second, the killer here felt that pulling a gun, aiming it, and pulling the trigger, was a justifiable response to a rebuke. If this was a one-off for this kind of incident then that's one thing, but as we all know, people are getting shot for knocking on the wrong door these days.........

 

[timoc]

I held a door open for a young woman of 63 with walking aids, she said, "Thank you Darling, not many like you now." She gave me a really big smile and disappered into the store. That for me was a 'feel good' moment.

Well, that was a chat-up line if ever I heard one!

Trish, how I came to learn her age was I met her again in the store cafe 30 minutes later, we had tea together and she told me I was the same age as her Dad.