Are most lifelong problems due to our relationship with our mother?

Rose65

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I think maternal connection is crucial. Mine was an over demanding, criticising, patronising mother who I grew to resent. She was just never happy for me no matter what, and was a classic narcissist. She undermined my confidence.

Do you think your mother shaped who you are today? Mine certainly did.
 

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My mom was a stay at home mother. She was always there for whatever I needed. My mom and I were very close. I was probably closer to my mom than my sister was and my dad too. It doesn’t matter what my dad did for a living, but he worked long hours. He may leave the house anytime between 7 and 10 and come home between 2 and 10 at night. I would say on average, he came home around 6. Dinner time was 6:30 in our house. My dad was usually at the table 4 evenings a week.
 

I my case that is a definite yes. But, it was the lack of her that made the impact. She died from a painful blood disease when I was 13. My Dad didn't do well with it at all. My younger brother and I made it through somehow, but we have the scars, still.

P.S. My Step Mother was GREAT!!! 15-19. Helped me A LOT!! :)
 
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My mother was bi polar....she gradually dipped into depression to the point that sitting in the living room and staring at the floor was her primary activity. And then she gradually lifted out into a manic phase where she couldn't stop talking, flirting and creating some rather nice artsy-craftsy objects. This happened four times a year.
My father and two older brothers couldn't or wouldn't cope in any functional way with her depressions. So I was a care giver, family cook and laundry officer during her down phases.........starting at around 9 or 10 years old.
Dad thought I was some kind of an adversary, but he did eat the meals I prepared.

I still have trouble knowing whom to trust.
 
Mom was a very sweet woman who liked everyone she met, and her co-workers adored her.

As the youngest girl, I was very close to my mother. My 2 older half-sisters left home in their late teens, in order to be close to their father. Mom had to work .. she and I were constant companions. We went to movies, restaurants, and visited her female friends. We took the bus and walked everywhere.

Once I moved across the country, I know Mom missed me. Eventually, they moved here, so she could be closer to her 3 daughters. My younger brother still lived (lives) out West. I mentioned somewhere, that by the time Mom and Dad came here, she was dying of inoperable cancer.
 
I'd answer the OP question with No. My dad was hot tempered, kind of narrow minded, and definitely moody (hence, unpredictable). When we were young, he was pretty physical in expressing his periodic upsets with his two sons. Our mother, on the other hand, tried to work out her moods within herself, wanted to stay positive when possible, and expressed love. She was interested in what was going on with her boys, and supported what she felt the strengths of each of us were.
 
In my case, yes. I'm an only child who came from what looked on the outside like a "Stepford" family. However, my mother suffered from postpartum depression so when I was born I was taken care of as a baby by a nanny. I was diagnosed with separation anxiety and still deal with it to this day. I become anxious when I'm leaving home for a trip, even a vacation.

My mother really did try her best to be a good mother, making sure a hot meal was always ready for me when I got home and always assuring me that I would be a success at whatever I tried. However, she had extremely low self-esteem and that affected me as well. She was also bi-polar. We always laughed that her personality shifts were because she was a Gemini, but I never knew which personality I would get.

She was also a perfectionist, so after our puppy pooped on the carpet she returned him so I never had a pet. She also sometimes made me and my friends play on the front porch because she didn't want to get the house dirty. She sat in her car outside my junior high school to spy on me and see if I was smoking with my friends or jumping the fence to go to McDonald's. She listened in on my phone calls, which is how she found out I was gay. When she found out about that, she just cried and cried if someone would ask about me and sent me to a psychologist. He said I was fine.

She had depression throughout the time that I grew up and once said "nobody cares whether I live or die" and said she was going to jump in the canal behind our house.

There is no way that I couldn't have been affected by my mother's behavior. My father was a pretty even-keeled, intelligent business man, but he was more passive and work was his life. We were close in his latter years. I'm happy to be a relatively well-adjusted individual these days.

Whew! That was cathartic.
 
I'm afraid my father was bad enough, but my mother was worse. Their combination was an unfortunate one and they ended up hating each other.
It took me a long time to realise how manipulative she was. I did not have a happy childhood and my mother's controlling behaviour continued. She was unpleasant and demanding towards everyone but masked it as being caring. In fact she was intrusive, self-centred, critical and unlovable.

My sister and I became increasingly hostile to each other and still don't communicate except where absolutely necessary. We do not wish to remember our childhood. We were close during childhood, helping each other to survive. In later years we began avoiding each other.

I'm glad for those who have good parents, it's a blessing indeed.
 
Regardless of how things were at home growing up, good or bad, I think as we mature we have to take ownership of ourselves.
Ideally yes. But a miserable childhood with no support emotionally makes for a crippled adult who struggles with life and relationships.
It's hard if not impossible to undo that damage.
For me it means constant depression has always been my companion.
 
Jeez. Where to begin.

I certainly learned a lot of bad s**t from my parents. I've written on this before, so won't go into the details again. For this post I want to give voice to possible reasons for their actions. I've spent time trying to figure out how they ended up so bent out of shape, and formed their ideas.

Firstly, my parents met and were married just after World War II. They were Londoners. London was a mess, and this forced thousands of young folk to leave the place they were born and raised to what were called "New Towns". The war affected everything from housing, to health care, to jobs. They had a real struggle, and that was their start. This was on top of what they learned from their parents. My fathers dad had lost a leg, my mothers mum had passed away. That was all in their formative years and conditioned their expectations and behaviors. Single parenting was tough back then, especially when you were disabled.

My parents had four children, I am the youngest. One passed away. My parents were strict, as though they were afraid we'd step on an unexploded bomb as soon as we left the house. Being a New Town, strangers were thrown together, they didn't know anyone. The town grew around them (they were some of the first people arriving) so roads weren't all complete, facilities weren't available, and so on. It must have felt unsettling and precarious.

The eldest, my sister, became a teen, with all that brings. My father hated the idea of boyfriends and the like, and curfews were set at silly times. Fights ensued, battles. Teen stuff. My sister quickly met her man and wanted to marry, my parents hated him and everything about him, mostly just because. More wars - though the marriage happened. I remember those wars well, and it just felt like self-hatred.

The thing to remember about such things is that a battle with my sister unsettled the entire family. We all had to live it. Kids do, and that's vital to remember and take into account - which my parents never did. If you have siblings, and they're acting out in some way and causing waves, you have to remember that the ripples from that affect the entire family, even if only indirectly.

My brother was a horror. Lots of petty crime, police involvement, drunkenness, and I came to learn later some drug use. You can imagine, that brought much angst to the family. Hell, he and I shared a bedroom until my sister married and left home, so I had to put up with a drunk coming home, him puking in the corner or in his bed, and I think you can get the picture. My father tried to spend time with him, going fishing etc., but it wore him out, I guess. By the time it came to me, my father didn't even bother trying to help me enjoy my interests.

I was always the runt of the family. I was small, weedy, and shy. Whether this is because of all this, or if I was simply like this and was more vulnerable to it all, I can't say. I just knew, from a very early age, that I much preferred it when I was alone. Then again, by the time I came along, they were done with parenting, they already had been worn down and exasperated by the other kids.

My father did the same job for most of his life, at the same factory. My mother worked as a nurse. He thought of that as being a good steady foundation you could rely on. However, by the time I was job hunting, the model didn't make a whole lot of sense. People just didn't commit their entire life to one employer any more. My chopping and changing jobs really annoyed them.

I recall coming home with my very first paycheck. I went into the living room where my parents were with a big smile on my face, I was so happy to finally be a man. My mother had her hand out, "right, where's our money?" Meaning, where was my contribution to the family finances. I had to hand over half of my wage. It turned a great moment into misery (whether one thinks I should have given money to the family finance, I question the timing!)

I try to think of all this through their eyes. They had a rough start, and thought they were putting rules in place to make things better for us kids. But they never updated their ideas or feelings to the times. They came from a world where a lot was regimented, and you didn't question authority - whereas we grew up in a world where questioning authority was the norm. They grew up in a world of restriction, desolation, and few choices, we grew up in a world of exploding possibilities (comparative wise).

There are no excuses for what I went through (clearly they're not all covered here), but I do try to get context for them. So much damage is done, and it's not all deliberate. Sometimes it's just dealing with life issues. The problem is, you can be bad with good intentions.

In modern day terms, how in the world is a child going to get a good start if their parents are heavy drug users, drunks, or criminals?
 
My mother would say psychiatry blamed everything on the mother, and she would never complain about her mother, who did the best she could under horrific circumstances of extreme poverty.

Used to blame mother a long time ago. Doesn't seem important anymore. She confused me. She would say "Do the best you can" and I could never understand what that meant. She said "Join something" but that only confused me more. Too vague. I needed details.

It's all her fault.
 
My mom and dad both grew up rough. They both experienced some horrible things. They brought my brother and me up the same way and didn't shield us from the world's misery. We were also expected to figure things out on our own.

I have forgiven them because it's all they knew. My brother was ashamed and moved out as soon as he could. I stayed and made sure they had what they needed until they became too sick for me to care for. Then my brother became the hero and took up the slack. I'm just glad they didn't die alone.

In all of this I turned off my feelings for myself, and people in general. To me they are all the same grabby, pretentious, boring individuals living in their own bubble (sorry) though I do come across a decent one now and then. These are the stars in my skies.
 
My mom and dad both grew up rough. They both experienced some horrible things. They brought my brother and me up the same way and didn't shield us from the world's misery. We were also expected to figure things out on our own.

I have forgiven them because it's all they knew. My brother was ashamed and moved out as soon as he could. I stayed and made sure they had what they needed until they became too sick for me to care for. Then my brother became the hero and took up the slack. I'm just glad they didn't die alone.

In all of this I turned off my feelings for myself, and people in general. To me they are all the same grabby, pretentious, boring individuals living in their own bubble (sorry) though I do come across a decent one now and then. These are the stars in my skies.
I'm in agreement. I became cynical more and more over the years.
 

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