How I ended up in Vietnam.

Trade

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I graduated from High School in 1965 and tried to stay out of it by enrolling in Junior college and getting a student deferment. By the time I finished my Associates degree in the summer of 67 the war wasn't over, it was intensifying. One of my High School buddies got out of the draft by pigging out and gaining over 50 lbs to put himself over the weight limit. Rather than go that route I transferred up to the University of Florida and started on my Bachelor's degree.

That didn’t work either. I graduated from there at the end of the 1969 summer term (Aug. 30, 1969) and was re-classified 1-A the following month. So I would be subject to being drafted in November of 1969. But then on Sep. 19th 1969 Nixon cancelled draft calls for November and December. Those were scheduled to be 32,000 in November and another 18,000 in December. 50,000 in all. And beginning in January of 1970 the draft calls would be done according to a lottery. So I breathed a little sigh of relief. I was safe until January of 1970. And then I had a chance of avoiding the draft if I got a high lottery number.

But not so fast. Nixon then decided that the 25,000 that were to be drafted in October would instead be spread over the 3 months of October, November, and December. So on November 3rd 1969 I got my “Order to report for induction” from my local draft board. The date that I was supposed to be inducted was November 24, 1969. I had checked into other options like the Reserves, the National Guard, and the Coast Guard but they all had long waiting lists of other would be draft dodgers ahead of me.

I had already passed my pre-induction physical with flying colors and was classified prime 1-A cannon fodder. I figured my best chances of fulfilling my “Military Obligation” without getting killed lay with either the Air Force or the Navy and of the two I decided to go with the Air Force.

I had already been talking to the local Air Force recruiter and taken their tests and been told that I was qualified for any job the Air Force had. Any enlisted job that is. They already had all the officers they could use so my college degree in Geography wasn’t any help. Pilot was open but my 20/400 vision without my glasses ruled that out. And besides that the chances of being shot down and stuck in a North Vietnamese prison would not have appealed to me even if I had had 20/20 vision.

So when that letter from my draft board arrived I beat it on down to the local Air Force recruiter who I had already been talking to and said “get me out of this!” And he said “Sure kid. Just sign up for 4 years with us and I’ll tell your local draft board that they can’t have you because you belong to us” So that’s what I did. I suppose that meant that my draft board had to move down to the next poor schmuck on their list but better him than me.

Still trying to delay the inevitable as much as possible I signed up for what they called the 120 day delayed enlistment plan. And I had them make it effective starting November 23rd, 1969. One day before I was to be inducted. That way I figured I wouldn’t go on active duty until somewhere late in March of 1970.

But around the middle of February the recruited sent me a letter say to come see him ASAP because I was going in on the 20th of February. What I found out was that the 120 day delayed enlistment meant “up to 120 days or whenever it was convenient to the Air Force which in my case was 88 days.

So on Feb. 20th, 1970, I was on my way to basic training at Lackland AFB. in Texas. After that it was Tech school at Sheppard AFB in Wichita Falls Texas, then a 30 day leave and on the McCord AFB Washington to catch a plane to Vietnam. So on August 20th, 1970 with 6 months in the Air
Force and one stripe on my sleeve I found myself assigned as a Medical Service Specialist to the 483rd USAF Hospital at Cam Rahn Bay Airbase.

What's really ironic is that on Dec.1, 1969, less than a month after I had been drafted the first draft lottery was drawn and my number was 298. If Nixon hadn't decided to spread October's draft call over the 3 months of October, November, and December, or If I had been somehow able to delay my re-classification to I-A for just two more months I would have never been called up. Oh well. Now that's it's over, I'm glad to be able to say I am a Vietnam Veteran. What is really disgusting to me is that it is estimated that 4 out of 5 people who claim to be Vietnam Veterans today never set foot in Vietnam. Many of them never even served in the Military.
 

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Hi Trade,

I kind of know what you went through. I graduated in '61 and was reclassified as 1A. This was before Viet Nam got really hot, but I still didn't want to be a foot soldier like my brother who served in Korea. So, I joined the Navy reserve and had 3 years of reserve duty before going active. By that time I had 3 years to get my career going and I went active as an E4. Two years active duty wasn't bad and my old job was waiting when I got out.

I'm one of those who are technically Vietnam Vets even though I never stepped foot there. But, I don't brag about it. My boat just touched the combat zone once so we could get the ribbon. The guys who actually served there deserve all the honors .
 

My story is similar. After two years of Community College, my scholarship ended and I had no money for even a state college. I got a draft notice and when I went in for my physical I learned that I was going to be drafted into the Marines. I had already made one try to get into Annapolis (ended up as third alternate for an appointment). My plan had been to apply again but the draft trumped that.

I joined the Navy also on the 120 day delay program and the Navy gave me entry as a Petty Officer Third Class upon completion of boot camp. I was sent to the fleet and served in the cruiser-destroyer force for nearly three years when I rotated to shore duty for my last year.

By then, I figured I was too old for the Academy (plus I had been a sailor long enough that the Navy never could have made a gentleman out of me :LOL:) so I used the GI bill to complete BA and MA.

I was in combat waters several times and got the Vietnam ribbons but although we fired our guns I never felt anyone else was shooting at my ship. My eternal respect to the men who actually saw combat.
 
My BF got drafted in 1971. He was 18 and I was 16. I never thought this would happen. You don't at 16. The war came and he was drafted. They let him finish high school and then he went. We fell out of touch for years and didn't see each other again til we were in our mid twenties. So Vietnam ended my teenage romance. What a weird thing to think about now, but I wonder how many other young girls lost their loves because of war in the past? This thread reminded me.
 
When I graduated from HS in 1960, I could feel the draft board breathing down my neck. Rather than facing the horrors of the Army/Marines, I joined the USAF. They sent me to a year of intense Electronics training which prepared me for an excellent career when I returned to civilian life. I spent 4 years in Germany...toured all over Europe, met my wife over there....married nearly 58 years ago, and finished my second tour in Thailand in 1967...then back to a normal life.
 
How did I get to be a Medic? Not only could I not stand the sight of blood, I used to feel faint and get light headed when they discussed the circulatory system in High School Biology class. So in Basic when they had us fill out our "dream sheet" as it was called where you put down what job you would like to be put into I put down "Air Photo Interpretation"first. That's where you look at photos taken from spy planes and try to intentify military targets. The recruiter had said that my Geography degree might help me get that job. So I put in down. The Geography Department at U of F even had a course titled that, but It wasn't required so I had never taken it.

My second choice was something that had the word "Intelligence" in it. I figured anything to do with "Intelligence" had to be cool so I put that down second. Then I made my mistake. For my third choice I saw this thing called "Medical Records Specialist". I figured "Records" meant that it had to do with paper work and filing and stuff and none of that blood and guts stuff. But when we all got our assignments at the end of basic I found out that I had been assigned "Medical Service Specialist" Key word being "Service" insteads of "Records" "Medical Service Specialist is pretty much "Generic Catch all Medic".

So when I got to the Hospital at Cam Rahn I was worried that I might get assigned to something like ICU. Fortunately I finally caught a break. It seemed that the Internal Medicine Ward was where they needed another body. So most of the patients I had to deal with were either Malaria or Hepatitis with some occasional other like dysentary or whatever. Lot's of shit and urine but very little blood. For that I was thankful.

Me on the Internal Medicine Ward 483rd USAF Hospital Cam Rahn Bay 1970.
 

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What is really disgusting to me is that it is estimated that 4 out of 5 people who claim to be Vietnam Veterans today never set foot in Vietnam. Many of them never even served in the Military.
I am one of those who never set foot in Vietnam. I missed the draft but enlisted prior to the end of the war and was sent to Korea instead. For that I was given "Vietnam Era Veteran" status and went on to serve 12 years. I get VA benefits and preferred parking at Lowes'. Not gonna' turn it down. ;)

Thank you for your service. (y)
 
My second husband was going to get drafted at 19 so he joined the marines with a guarantee to be an airplane mechanic. He went to Vietnam. After his 4 year enlistment he used the GI bill to go to college. I didn’t know him then as I was 8 years younger. When I divorced him he was still having nightmares from it over 30 years later.
 
How did I get to be a Medic? Not only could I not stand the sight of blood, I used to feel faint and get light headed when they discussed the circulatory system in High School Biology class. So in Basic when they had us fill out our "dream sheet" as it was called where you put down what job you would like to be put into I put down "Air Photo Interpretation"first. That's where you look at photos taken from spy planes and try to intentify military targets. The recruiter had said that my Geography degree might help me get that job. So I put in down. The Geography Department at U of F even had a course titled that, but It wasn't required so I had never taken it.

My second choice was something that had the word "Intelligence" in it. I figured anything to do with "Intelligence" had to be cool so I put that down second. Then I made my mistake. For my third choice I saw this thing called "Medical Records Specialist". I figured "Records" meant that it had to do with paper work and filing and stuff and none of that blood and guts stuff. But when we all got our assignments at the end of basic I found out that I had been assigned "Medical Service Specialist" Key word being "Service" insteads of "Records" "Medical Service Specialist is pretty much "Generic Catch all Medic".

So when I got to the Hospital at Cam Rahn I was worried that I might get assigned to something like ICU. Fortunately I finally caught a break. It seemed that the Internal Medicine Ward was where they needed another body. So most of the patients I had to deal with were either Malaria or Hepatitis with some occasional other like dysentary or whatever. Lot's of shit and urine but very little blood. For that I was thankful.

Me on the Internal Medicine Ward 483rd USAF Hospital Cam Rahn Bay 1970.

Regardless of all you went through! Thank you for your service...you and those like you have always been the foundation to our military!
 
How did I get to be a Medic? Not only could I not stand the sight of blood, I used to feel faint and get light headed when they discussed the circulatory system in High School Biology class. So in Basic when they had us fill out our "dream sheet" as it was called where you put down what job you would like to be put into I put down "Air Photo Interpretation"first. That's where you look at photos taken from spy planes and try to intentify military targets. The recruiter had said that my Geography degree might help me get that job. So I put in down. The Geography Department at U of F even had a course titled that, but It wasn't required so I had never taken it.

My second choice was something that had the word "Intelligence" in it. I figured anything to do with "Intelligence" had to be cool so I put that down second. Then I made my mistake. For my third choice I saw this thing called "Medical Records Specialist". I figured "Records" meant that it had to do with paper work and filing and stuff and none of that blood and guts stuff. But when we all got our assignments at the end of basic I found out that I had been assigned "Medical Service Specialist" Key word being "Service" insteads of "Records" "Medical Service Specialist is pretty much "Generic Catch all Medic".

So when I got to the Hospital at Cam Rahn I was worried that I might get assigned to something like ICU. Fortunately I finally caught a break. It seemed that the Internal Medicine Ward was where they needed another body. So most of the patients I had to deal with were either Malaria or Hepatitis with some occasional other like dysentary or whatever. Lot's of shit and urine but very little blood. For that I was thankful.

Me on the Internal Medicine Ward 483rd USAF Hospital Cam Rahn Bay 1970.
My dad also served at Cam Rahn in 69/early70, I have his 16mm movies he took while there
 
I graduated weeks before Vietnam was on the horizon. Draft eligible. Always liked the sea and figured I would rather sleep in a bunk rather than a ditch, so off to join the Navy. Graduated from OCS as Vietnam was heating up. Three years in the engine rooms of an old Essex class carrier active in the Vietnam war, but never actually saw Vietnam. Lots of Hawaii, Philippines, Japan, and Hong Kong. Three years at sea were up, but offered shore duty in Spain if I would extend for two more years. Join the Navy and see the world. Truer words were never spoken. All in all, five great years.
 
Interesting thread-my husband signed up with USMC in 1964 and was in Vietnam 65-66-Ops Rolling Thunder and Op Starlight.
He would often say "Vietnam was horrible and wonderful." PTSD 100% P & T.

The first Fall we lived in NY , decades ago ,we saw many men in Cameos- (the Marines wore utilities in Vietnam) but they were hunters. One day we were at a small shopping center about 25 miles away, and a man in cameos got out of his car and he had a VVA sew-on patch on his cameos so I went over to him. I believe I was the first or among the very first civilians who had joined the VVA, as associate members ( Vietnam Veterans of American,) and he invited us to one of their meetings.

It was very interesting, but a long ride for us, and years later I learned that,
although he ran the VVA post, he was a WANNABEE!

What gets me the most is that some of these wannabees actually get VA compensation (until they are caught).

Here's one of them:
In part:
"The 50-year-old Army veteran pleaded guilty July 25 to theft of government funds after he admitted to stealing $106,245 in VA payments for disabilities resulting from fraudulent claims, the Justice Department determined."
and
"Adams is now legally committed to giving back 100% of the disability funds he stole, according to his plea deal. Additionally, he faces a maximum of 10 years in prison and a $250,000 fine."

Vet who leg pressed 800 pounds on Insta admits to VA disability theft
 
Welcome back Trade. Nothing to add here. I enlisted in the Army and was infantry. Guess I wasn't the brightest bulb in the chandelier.


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I have the utmost respect for you guys that were in the Bush. You had it rough. Not like us in the Air Force which is the Bath and Raquet Club of the Military. Lol!
 

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