David777
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As a science person involved in neuroscience and electronic phenomenon, I've been supporting the below view for other animal creatures over decades. What most neuroscientists don't support is that consciousness is the electromagnetic standing wave brain wave fields in our brains. Instead for decades they have been claiming those fields are probably just epiphenomenon despite considerable increasing research in the last 2 decades indicating that narrative is incorrect.
All Earth higher bilateral vertebrate animal brains (not plants), from microscopic worms, to ants, to fish, to reptiles, to mammals have those EM fields. Slime molds that apparently are sentient due to obvious actions, don't even use neurons though have those EM fields across their cell bodies. Scientists should add 2 plus 2 equals 4 to make that connection, but are apparently afraid to. And yes there are religious and political reasons that is so.
Those studying consciousness make a huge deal out of the fact we humans seem to simultaneously be aware of vast areas of our higher brain systems and how it doesn't make sense that should be the case the way they stupidly interpret the brain like a bunch of interconnected electronic circuits. The answer has been looking them right in the face for decades but the standard narrative is entrenched.
Scientists push new paradigm of animal consciousness, saying even insects may be sentient
Scientists push new paradigm of animal consciousness, saying even insects may be sentient
The declaration says there is “strong scientific support” that birds and mammals have conscious experience, and a “realistic possibility” of consciousness for all vertebrates — including reptiles, amphibians and fish. That possibility extends to many creatures without backbones, it adds, such as insects, decapod crustaceans (including crabs and lobsters) and cephalopod mollusks, like squid, octopus and cuttlefish.
“When there is a realistic possibility of conscious experience in an animal, it is irresponsible to ignore that possibility in decisions affecting that animal,” the declaration says. “We should consider welfare risks and use the evidence to inform our responses to these risks.”
Jonathan Birch, a professor of philosophy at the London School of Economics and a principal investigator on the Foundations of Animal Sentience project, is among the declaration’s signatories. Whereas many scientists in the past assumed that questions about animal consciousness were unanswerable, he said, the declaration shows his field is moving in a new direction.
“This has been a very exciting 10 years for the study of animal minds,” Birch said. “People are daring to go there in a way they didn’t before and to entertain the possibility that animals like bees and octopuses and cuttlefish might have some form of conscious experience.”
Slime molds:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/slime-mold-smart-brainless-cognition/
All Earth higher bilateral vertebrate animal brains (not plants), from microscopic worms, to ants, to fish, to reptiles, to mammals have those EM fields. Slime molds that apparently are sentient due to obvious actions, don't even use neurons though have those EM fields across their cell bodies. Scientists should add 2 plus 2 equals 4 to make that connection, but are apparently afraid to. And yes there are religious and political reasons that is so.
Those studying consciousness make a huge deal out of the fact we humans seem to simultaneously be aware of vast areas of our higher brain systems and how it doesn't make sense that should be the case the way they stupidly interpret the brain like a bunch of interconnected electronic circuits. The answer has been looking them right in the face for decades but the standard narrative is entrenched.
Scientists push new paradigm of animal consciousness, saying even insects may be sentient
Scientists push new paradigm of animal consciousness, saying even insects may be sentient
The declaration says there is “strong scientific support” that birds and mammals have conscious experience, and a “realistic possibility” of consciousness for all vertebrates — including reptiles, amphibians and fish. That possibility extends to many creatures without backbones, it adds, such as insects, decapod crustaceans (including crabs and lobsters) and cephalopod mollusks, like squid, octopus and cuttlefish.
“When there is a realistic possibility of conscious experience in an animal, it is irresponsible to ignore that possibility in decisions affecting that animal,” the declaration says. “We should consider welfare risks and use the evidence to inform our responses to these risks.”
Jonathan Birch, a professor of philosophy at the London School of Economics and a principal investigator on the Foundations of Animal Sentience project, is among the declaration’s signatories. Whereas many scientists in the past assumed that questions about animal consciousness were unanswerable, he said, the declaration shows his field is moving in a new direction.
“This has been a very exciting 10 years for the study of animal minds,” Birch said. “People are daring to go there in a way they didn’t before and to entertain the possibility that animals like bees and octopuses and cuttlefish might have some form of conscious experience.”
Slime molds:
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/article/slime-mold-smart-brainless-cognition/
