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Capt Lightning said:
Can somebody please tell me what is this "sin" that Jesus is supposed to have died for?
Was it something fundamental of a collection of minor disgressions ? Since I do not believe in the existence of 'God', Jesus cannot be the son of God. As I see it, he was little more than a deluded itinerant preacher who became so popular that the authorities felt threatened and decided to get rid of him. However, the PR machine swung into action and he ended up more famous dead than when he was alive. A rather simplistic view, but I think it fits the bill.
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The sin is "original sin," all brought down upon us by Eve, who seduced Adam with the forbidden fruit.

(An aside: Adam and Eve had two sons, Cain and Abel. Cain killed Abel . That left Adam, Cain and mom. From there the earth was populated? We're all the product of incest? Maybe that's the original sin...Eve's sin, that bitch! Also, Cain was banished to the land of Nod where he fathered decendants...with whom? The Bible doesn't seem to concern itself with details. Just shut up and believe!)

Concerning Jesus, I think you pretty much nailed it.
 

Testing if God is truth and omnipotent
What does it me to believe if what one said to me about an invisible God?
Cannot see him or her, nor hear this person even if it is a person, what or how do I begin, the all time challenge of my life, my soul.

Fist you ask many questions, I find books about the subject, I go to many different culture to ask what they believe in, seek the finest mind in this subject, evaluate all the amount of information of all I gathered, take note of everyone opinion always have an open mind about everything, do not despise anyone believe, who if there is a true God from the information of all I gathered, many say He is watching and waiting.

Now as I seek truth and gathered much information, and it took a very long time, what I do next?
I test everything, even God himself. I do something unusual something unique because I’m looking for truth.
All this depends rather I believe in something or not, my choice? Or will to believe.

I am a skeptic, I believe in facts, not theory substance, if a God does exist, I test the theory or the formula. This is the mind of men or women.
There is a history of our human experience, our past, that reflects our future, one ripple in time affects the other, one person belief affects the other, test the theory whether God exists or not? I do something unusual or something unique to get God’s attention, I challenge him or her.
Now I look into the past to meet this challenge, what it says? I know if God does exists he or she will eventually find me as I do the same.

Testing if God is truth and omnipotent
Num 14:22 (NKJV) because all these men who have seen My glory and the signs which I did in Egypt and in the wilderness, and have put Me to the test now these ten times, and have not heeded My voice,)

Judges 6:39 (NKJV) Then Gideon said to God, "Do not be angry with me, but let me speak just once more: Let me test, I pray, just once more with the fleece; let it now be dry only on the fleece, but on all the ground let there be dew."

Psalm 95:9 (NKJV) When your fathers tested Me; They tried Me, though they saw My work.

Psalm 78:18 (NKJV) And they tested God in their heart By asking for the food of their fancy.

Acts 5:9 (NKJV) Then Peter said to her, "How is it that you have agreed together to test the Spirit of the Lord? Look, the feet of those who have buried your husband are at the door, and they will carry you out."

Deuteronomy 6:16 (NKJV) "You shall not tempt the LORD your God as you tempted Him in Massah.

Matthew 4:7 (NKJV) Jesus said to him, "It is written again, 'You shall not tempt the LORD your God.' "

Hebrews 3:9 (NKJV) Where your fathers tested Me, tried Me, And saw My works forty years.

Exodus 17:2 (NKJV) Therefore the people contended with Moses, and said, "Give us water, that we may drink." And Moses said to them, "Why do you contend with me? Why do you tempt the LORD?"
All that texting and challenge Wow! what do you think?
Jeremiah 33:3 (NKJV) 'Call to Me, and I will answer you, and show you great and mighty things, which you do not know.'
Malachi 3:10 (NKJV) Bring all the tithes into the storehouse, That there may be food in My house, And try Me now in this," says the LORD of hosts, "If I will not open for you the windows of heaven And pour out for you such blessing That there will not be room enough to receive it.
 
Why don't you, personally, alone and in your room or private place, make a test of God?
Do this: open your bible, say to the gospel of John, and pray a prayer like this:
Dear God,
I am searching with a pure mind and heart, honestly seeking You. If You are real, speak to me and let me know it.
I stand ready to receive You. Thank You for loving me. Amen
 

exwisehe said:
Why don't you, personally, alone and in your room or private place, make a test of God?
Do this: open your bible, say to the gospel of John, and pray a prayer like this:
Dear God,
I am searching with a pure mind and heart, honestly seeking You. If You are real, speak to me and let me know it.
I stand ready to receive You. Thank You for loving me. Amen
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the test is for those yet have doubt, but as for me, this what I do every day, and I miss a few days, he is always with me
What is a true Christian?

John 14:15 (NKJV) "If you love Me, keep My commandments.
Luke 21:36 (NKJV) Watch, therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man."
Luke 10:27 (NKJV) So he answered and said, "' You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,' and 'your neighbor as yourself.' "
Luke 10:27 (NKJV) So he answered and said, "' You shall love the LORD your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your strength, and with all your mind,' and 'your neighbor as yourself.' "
1 John 3:9 (NKJV) Whoever has been born of God does not sin, for His seed remains in him; and he cannot sin, because he has been born of God.
2 Corinthians 5:17 (NKJV) Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new.

The Testimony of a true Christian
Romans 10:10 (NKJV) For with the heart one believes unto righteousness, and with the mouth, confession is made unto salvation.
Romans 10:13 (NKJV) For "whoever calls on the name of the LORD shall be saved."

Lukewarm Christian, One that says I am but I am not
James 3:10-12 (NKJV) Out of the same mouth proceeds blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not to be so.
Does a spring send forth fresh water and bitter from the same opening?
Can a fig tree, my brethren, bear olives, or a grapevine bear figs? Thus no spring yields both saltwater and fresh.
1 Corinthians 9:26-27 (NKJV) Therefore I run thus: not with uncertainty. Thus I fight: not as one who beats the air.
But I discipline my body and bring it into subjection, lest, when I have preached to others, I myself should become disqualified.
2 Corinthians 7:1 (NKJV) Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God.

The condition of a promise and a miracle
Mark 13:33 (NKJV) Take heed, watch and pray; for you do not know when the time is.
Luke 21:36 (NKJV) Watch, therefore, and pray always that you may be counted worthy to escape all these things that will come to pass, and to stand before the Son of Man."
Hebrews 9:28 (NKJV) Christ was offered once to bear the sins of many.
To those who eagerly wait for Him, He will appear a second time, apart from sin, for salvation.
Remember their two levels of his return, He will appear a second time in the heavens, the last is when he comes down to earth
2 Corinthians 7:1-2 (NKJV) Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all filthiness of the flesh, and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God
Open your hearts to us, We have wronged no one, we have corrupted no one, and we have cheated no one.
Hebrews 12:1 (NKJV) Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us,
Revelation 21:7 (NKJV) He who overcomes shall inherit all things, and I will be his God and he shall be My son.
Philippians 2:5-8 (NKJV) Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.
And being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient to the point of death, even the death of the cross.
Matthew 25:1-13 (NKJV) "Then the kingdom of heaven shall be likened to ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom.
Now five of them were wise, and five were foolish.
Those who were foolish took their lamps and took no oil with them, but the wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.
But while the bridegroom was delayed, they all slumbered and slept.
And at midnight a cry was heard: 'Behold, the bridegroom is coming; go out to meet him!'
Then all those virgins arose and trimmed their lamps.
And the foolish said to the wise, 'Give us some of your oil, for our lamps are going out.'
But the wise answered, saying, 'No, lest there should not be enough for us and you; but go rather to those who sell, and buy for yourselves.'
And while they went to buy, the bridegroom came, and those who were ready went in with him to the wedding; and the door was shut.
Afterward, the other virgins came also, saying, 'Lord, Lord, open to us!'
But he answered and said, 'Assuredly, I say to you, I do not know you.'
Watch therefore, for you know neither the day nor the hour in which the Son of Man is coming.
 
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TheWordIsOne: I think you may be on the wrong forum. To have an opinion is one thing but preaching and sermonizing is quite another. Be content in your belief but please refrain from posting as a self-styled missionary. It's presumptuous.
 
Nautilus said:
TheWordIsOne: I think you may be on the wrong forum. To have an opinion is one thing but preaching and sermonizing is quite another. Be content in your belief but please refrain from posting as a self-styled missionary. It's presumptuous.
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the best thing in life is to do others wishes you not to do it call freedom
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You won't be getting any questions from me. I find you to be a tedious provocateur. In other words, yawn.

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Also, a plagiarist, as you don't quote your sources when you lift their work, i.e. post 258.
 
Pepper said:
You won't be getting any questions from me. I find you to be a tedious provocateur. In other words, yawn.

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Also, a plagiarist, as you don't quote your sources when you lift their work, i.e. post 258.
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that was an honest question, in any case, words are effective you understood my language, but I see you as a provocateur, your word show it, at less your friend have a conscience
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