WHO advice and updates on Coronavirus website

PopsnTuff said:
Is this Covid-19 virus bacterial or 100% viral? Googled it and cant find an answer.
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@hollydolly is correct. It's viral and causes a distinct type pneumonia that's different from other viruses. But a person sick with a virus can develop a secondary bacterial infection due to a weakened immune system.
 

AnnieA said:
Pretty much this whole post is inaccurate.

Epidemiologists adjust algorithms and equations to account for undetected cases. It's not basic math ...that's why they have Ph.Ds and often dual MD/Ph.D

And thankfully, hand sanitizer is effective against this coronavirus because the alcohol percentage is high enough to destroy the envelope of COVID-19. But thorough handwashing destroys it as well.
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and it's also important that if people do have hand sanitizers (gel etc) ... ( and it's impossible to get any here in the uk)... that they use alcohol based..anything less won't be strong enough to kill this virus strain
 

For the hand sanitizers, when they run out, you can make your own:


—1/3 cup of aloe vera gel
—2/3 cup of 99% isopropyl alcohol (rubbing alcohol)
—Mixing bowl
—A spoon or whisk
—A clean, empty container, like a plastic travel bottle or a pump bottle.


Simply stir the aloe vera gel and alcohol until they are well blended and then decant the mixture into the bottle.
Optional: Add a few drops of your favorite essential oil while mixing. It won't have any effect on the potency of your concoction, but it might make it smell nicer.
That's all there is to it.

The most important thing, according to the CDC, is to make sure the alcohol content is at least 60 percent.

And Amazon has aloe vera gel if you can't find it in stores. .... same with the rubbing alcohol.
 
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Latest precautions given to us in the uk by WHO ..( we have 51 cases country wide)..... are these

Shoppers should pay using contactless cards to avoid catching the coronavirus from a dirty banknote, health experts have said.
A spokesman for the World Health Organization said contactless cards could 'reduce the risk of transmission'.
Notes change hands hundreds or even thousands of times during circulation and can pick up all manner of dirt and bugs as they're passed around.
Experts say the coronavirus could latch onto currency in the same way that it is able to live on hard surfaces like doorknobs, handrails and toilet handles.
So using contactless cards – which mean someone only has to touch their own card, which is never handled by anyone else – could protect them from it spreading.
The advice comes as employers have reportedly started to ban hot-desking, when people share desks; and, in France, ministers have told people to stop doing 'la bise', the traditional cheek-kiss greeting.
 
Remember that places like ATM's and credit card machines in supermarkets are potentially loaded with germs, so best to be safe and either use a gloved hand (remember don't touch your face...or wash your hand immediately after using the machine) or in the store use the end of a pencil to press the tiny digits on the card machine if you're going over the Debit card limit...
 
AnnieA said:
Pretty much this whole post is inaccurate.

Epidemiologists adjust algorithms and equations to account for undetected cases. It's not basic math ...that's why they have PhDs and often dual MD/PhD

And thankfully, hand sanitizer is effective against this coronavirus because the alcohol percentage is high enough to destroy the envelope of COVID-19. But thorough handwashing destroys it as well.
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There have been studies released at the beginning of this flu season that don't rate the effectiveness of sanitizers with alcohol very well. And the problem with alcohol it may kill some on immediate contact but alcohol can dissipate with the residue on someone's hands working only for a short time.

https://www.news-medical.net/news/2...own-to-be-ineffective-at-killing-the-flu.aspx


As far as the statistics like any statistical study the source and/or amount of data play a roll. As must they be put in context. There are too many variables like illegal or undocumented entry which effect when and where cases developed. Also heard some reports of multiple reports in one nursing home-stats like that have to be put in context before putting them on a scoreboard which is what the msm is doing right now.

https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu...ow-and-why-numbers-are-so-easily-manipulated/

And misuse of algorithms one need look no further than the current stock market. Point being the variables used or not used affect outcomes negatively or incorrectly.

https://knowledge.wharton.upenn.edu...ow-and-why-numbers-are-so-easily-manipulated/

I don't think there's enough data yet especially from China and other parts of the world for accurate analysis or algorithms.
 
WhatInThe said:
There have been studies released at the beginning of this flu season that don't rate the effectiveness of sanitizers with alcohol very well. And the problem with alcohol it may kill some on immediate contact but alcohol can dissipate with the residue on someone's hands working only for a short time.
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COVID-19 is not influenza. It is a virus, but it is no more influenza than a chihuahua is a labrador. Try to understand this basic fact before playing epidemiologist on a message board. Measles isn't influenza isn't HIV, isn't smallpox, isn't herpes, isn't hep B. All viruses, none of them the same. COVID-19 is COVID-19.

COVID-19 has a lipid envelope that 60% alcohol formulations destroy.
 
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I have to say, any time I have been to a warehouse store (Sam's, Costco, BJs, etc.) there are ALWAYS people with those handcarts full of "stuff." Many small businesses buy supplies at those warehouse stores so it is a common sight. So far I have not noticed any panic buying or empty shelves in our area.
 
From SeekingAlpha =

Vaccines are in the works

With about 40 employees working on the project, Takeda Pharmaceutical (NYSE:TAK) is joining Gilead Sciences (NASDAQ:GILD) and AbbVie (NYSE:ABBV) as the latest drugmaker to work on developing a coronavirus vaccine. The experimental drug would be derived from the blood of coronavirus patients who have recovered from the respiratory disease. "While we don't know for sure that it will work, we think it's definitely a relevant asset that could be of help here," said Dr. Rajeev Venkayya, president of Takeda's vaccines business.
 
PopsnTuff said:
Is this Covid-19 virus bacterial or 100% viral? Googled it and cant find an answer....I've been treated with the 5-day pack of antibiotics for bacterial infections a few times in the past, after begging the docs in ER to treat me with it, when after 3-4 weeks I was getting worse, with all the cold and flu symptoms....which indicate its bacterial.....most of the docs will tell you its hard to determine if your infections are one or the other cuz the testing is unreliable...a higher percentage of mostly viral infection has to run its course thru your body......anybody else go thru this?
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It's a virus, as are influenza and the common cold and most pneumonias.
 
chic said:
It's like the regular flu in that regard then. Isn't it? We catch the flu as kids, as teens, as adults and as seniors.
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No, each year it's a different strain of flu. You do have immunity from the original strain you caught. If you didn't when the flu went through your family you'd never get rid of it. It'd go from one family member to the next and then start over again.
 
MarciKS said:
I wonder what local companies will do for someone if they get quarantined to their home and need medicine or groceries and can't get out? Would they consider running a tab til the person was safe and able to get out to the pay the bill? That's what worries me. I wanna try to get some supplies to keep in case that happens but, the medicine is a biggie for me. And like you others, they won't let us stockpile and most of what I get can only be bought one mo. at a time.
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Ugh, credit cards?
 
garyt1957 said:
Ugh, credit cards?
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Credit cards are only bad if you're financially irresponsible. If you're careful with your money and pay off the balance each month, they don't cost you anything and verifies your good credit. If you want to buy online, rent a car, reserve a hotel room etc, you can't do it without a a credit card. You can even get money back and airline miles with them. I have two cards and try to take turns using them (keep them happy), but I pay each off every month. My FICO is 822-829. Get at least one if you don't have one, you might need to use if quarantined or unable to go out to shop.
 
I'm going to get surgical gloves. Just to be on the safe side. So far I've been keeping gloves on to do as many things as possible, but it's getting warm and that won't be practical going forward.
 
I just heard, if you are going to the Doctor, it means many times you have the flu....I had pneumonia ;last August...I thought I was dying...
And I had a flu shot that year......
We get our shots every year....So far where we are , i'm not hearing anything about people with the Coronavirus ...
 
Snapshot of Italy today. Bolded numbers are for today alone.

778 new cases and 49 new deaths today.

Total cases: 4,636. Total deaths: 197.

Among the 3,916 active cases, 2,394 (61%) are hospitalized, 462 of which (representing 12% of active cases) are in intensive care.

Among the 720 closed cases, 523 (73%) have recovered, 197 (27%) have died.
 
We have three more cases in my state. People must be staying in because the traffic, usually heavy here, has become thin. Stores are practically empty. That shocked me as I expected to see crowds panic buying but it was the opposite. Still plenty of toilet and paper towels for those who need it.
 
Done some digging like many others, common sense says get away,. However that does not work here. I am mostly set up for the long haul here.
Remote living epecially in winter up here you don't run to the store each day.
A scary thought is the mutating this thing is doing, still missing a lot of info on that part.
Treeguy64 has it right, don't let the panic get to you. Use common sense or find out from people who have some experience in emergency situations.
 

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