One crappy way to detect/predict virus numbers is analyze sewer systems

Gaer said:
Whatinthe: How do you find all these unique threads? interesting!
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Nothing special. I usually set search parameters to the last week then I try different combination of words in the search boxes. I also constantly browse headlines of all kinds of sites. In this case I saw a headline and verified it especially since there's been a fuss over the numbers and predictions.

I can't believe all the wash and cleaning people are doing around the house isn't putting more disinfectants and sterilizing chemicals that kill enough of the virus beyond detection. Could positive results be from run off and/or from one really contaminated area.
 

I think such studies are a waste of time.
And the end results are not very useful & the effort is being channeled in the wrong direction.
I believe that with every fiber of my being.
And, my reaction to such information is the same as when the priest flushed & said, "Holy crap."
 
win231 said:
I think such studies are a waste of time.
And the end results are not very useful & the effort is being channeled in the wrong direction.
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At best this might point toward a neighborhood in which I'd think they would know already.

Also what if one large family is infected but not sick but they could have more contaminated debris contributing to those samples. Or what if a family does all there wash in one day that what also put a lot of virus into the system at one time.

Although I'm still wondering with all the cleaners that would wind up down the drain now especially why there's that much that can be tested. Or worse what if there's a contractor cleaning stuff from the job at home or from an office which would also make the numbers seem higher than they are.
 
So, my question would be "to flush or not to flush?" If one household member is positive and others share the commode, would flushing disperse aerosol virus-laden droplets into the air? Would the virus be alive in fecal matter? The article appears to have been translated to English and was a bit hard for me to follow.
 
Empty said:
So, my question would be "to flush or not to flush?" If one household member is positive and others share the commode, would flushing disperse aerosol virus-laden droplets into the air? Would the virus be alive in fecal matter? The article appears to have been translated to English and was a bit hard for me to follow.
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I'd say flush with lid closed always for starters. The test or system looks for the RNA of viruses. My guess is that's exactly where it lives but again how does it survive chlorinated flush water and cleaners. Now part of this could be run off from the ground which could include things like spit, sweat droplets from a runner lets say so it could 'a' combination of things.

Apparently they already detected enough to merit further research in Mass.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-traces-found-in-massachusetts-wastewater/
 
WhatInThe said:
I'd say flush with lid closed always for starters. The test or system looks for the RNA of viruses. My guess is that's exactly where it lives but again how does it survive chlorinated flush water and cleaners. Now part of this could be run off from the ground which could include things like spit, sweat droplets from a runner lets say so it could 'a' combination of things.

Apparently they already detected enough to merit further research in Mass.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/09/coronavirus-traces-found-in-massachusetts-wastewater/
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Thanks for the tip about closing the lid before flushing and for the better link! Perhaps the ground run-off is why health officials started telling people to remove their shoes before going into the house. I hate to think it is run-off - it will carry the contamination into yards before it hits the sewers. I hope that I live long enough to see the 'end results' of all these studies!
 
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