Face Masks

TravelinMan said:
My wife and I wear one on any necessary outing.

COVID-19 is spread by aerosol droplets, i.e. through the air. An unblocked cough or sneeze may spread the virus droplets 6 feet or more, and simply talking without a face mask may send droplets up to 3 feet. These droplets then land on nearby surfaces where they may be picked up by hands and fingers, then transmitted to a host by soiled fingers. The route of entry is through the mouth, nose and/or eyes.

Wearing a mask in public does little to protect the person wearing it, but rather protects those in public who may inadvertently pick a virus particle and become infected. It has been said that up to 50% of those infected are asymptomatic.

So, wearing a mask in public is an unselfish act to others IMO.

Here is a link to a video that shows how virus particles may be spread:

https://www.hpcwire.com/2020/04/08/supercomputer-modeling-tests-how-covid-19-spreads-in-grocery-stores/

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Hi - your link, for some reason, cycles back to this page... I'll try another approach

https://www.hpcwire.com/2020/04/08/...tests-how-covid-19-spreads-in-grocery-stores/ - WOW - so confused - when I did a keyword search on Google and clicked the link, it loaded. Copy and paste also worked. Going to read/view now. Thanks for posting! Done - really eye opening! Most interesting (found on next linked page): "The researchers of the consortium modelled the airborne movement of aerosol particles smaller than 20 micrometres. For a dry cough, which is a typical symptom of the current coronavirus, the particle size is typically less than 15 micrometres. Extremely small particles of this size do not sink on the floor, but instead, move along in the air currents or remain floating in the same place. Studies of influenza A have confirmed that the influenza A virus can be found in the smallest particles, which measure less than 5 micrometres. "
 

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If you value the information in the article, you should wear a mask. At least they admit it doesn't protect the person wearing a mask (which I already knew). That's why Trump said he will not wear a mask & that's why none of the big doctors we see on TV are wearing masks.

The virus is microscopic, so it easily passes through a non-medical mask (which is the only type available to non-medical personnel). If the virus can pass through the mask from the outside, it can also pass through the mask from the inside. Which means it will only protect others if the person wearing the mask doesn't breathe.
As noted, no mask will protect the eyes from the virus.

As for "Transferring the virus from soiled fingers," that can only occur if soiled fingers touch your face - which is not a good idea. The virus can also be transferred if someone touches their face while wearing those useless gloves, or touching their cell phone while wearing gloves (which I see people doing all the time while shopping.
Even the medical grade masks must be replaced or sterilized every 30 minutes to be effective.

The "Unselfish" line has been used in the past to try to sell flu shots - "If you don't get a flu shot, you're making other people sick." Which is a B.S. ploy to sell flu shots.
 
i was a coal miner, so definitely NOT a scientist, but if you throw a ping-pong ball at a chicken-wire fence, the ball can easily pass thru the gauge of the wire but i bet it wont go thru the first throw, now put a dozen layers of wire up and its impossible to throw that ball thu the fence.... when talking in microns its like saying the point of a needle reduced ten times COULD go thru the mask, but the mask is designed to catch anything thrown at it, of course something hard could be forced thru it, but they are designed to catch squidgy stuff...lol... IMO
 

I ordered a mask from trendymasks.net . It will arrive in about a week. I do have a paper mask, which I wore this morning when I went grocery shopping, but I hate it. I can hardly breathe in it, and my glasses keep steaming up. The one I ordered sounds better, at least I hope so, considering what I paid for it.

I did try making one of those bandana-and-coffee-filter masks, but it kept opening up. I fastened it with paper clips, which helped it stay together, but it's still very uncomfortable.

Are we supposed to wear masks when walking alone outdoors? Around here, everybody seems to, but I can't understand why, since the virus isn't airborne.
 
Sunny said:
I ordered a mask from trendymasks.net . It will arrive in about a week. I do have a paper mask, which I wore this morning when I went grocery shopping, but I hate it. I can hardly breathe in it, and my glasses keep steaming up. The one I ordered sounds better, at least I hope so, considering what I paid for it.

I did try making one of those bandana-and-coffee-filter masks, but it kept opening up. I fastened it with paper clips, which helped it stay together, but it's still very uncomfortable.

Are we supposed to wear masks when walking alone outdoors? Around here, everybody seems to, but I can't understand why, since the virus isn't airborne.
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Fear can make people nuts.
 
I understand, after you return from an excursion, put your gloves and mask in the dryer through a cycle and the heat will rid of any virus which mayhave been picked up.
 
Sunny said:
... Are we supposed to wear masks when walking alone outdoors? Around here, everybody seems to, but I can't understand why, since the virus isn't airborne.
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It depends on the air currents, social distancing, mask-wearing, etc., but it isn't accurate to say that the virus isn't air-born. It is so small that it lingers in the air long enough that if someone who was Covid-19 positive walked twenty feet in front of you and sneezed without mask protection, you may walk the same way and be exposed.
 
A face mask? You need full body armor. Social distancing ha. Three registers out of 10 open at Wal Mart has people standing in long lines. Another store has its card reader at the beginning of the belt, right where the next customer would begin placing their order. Once you are there you can't move back without violating the six-foot rule for the people behind. The same store is instituting one way aisles in all their stores. Great. Everyone will obey that rule, uh huh. Stupid teens in masks laughing and pretend-coughing. Meanwhile the customer in front of me is holding up the line waiting for a manager to come and explain why certain items aren't on the shelf. On the way out the lady ahead coughs while going out the door. There is a stiff breeze blowing in. I imagine a layer of Covid 19 coating me from head to toe. Hey but a mask will keep me safe, like a talisman, or a relic, or an amulet did from the Black Death. Good luck.
 
Judycat said:
A face mask? You need full body armor. Social distancing ha. Three registers out of 10 open at Wal Mart has people standing in long lines. Another store has its card reader at the beginning of the belt, right where the next customer would begin placing their order. Once you are there you can't move back without violating the six-foot rule for the people behind. The same store is instituting one way aisles in all their stores. Great. Everyone will obey that rule, uh huh. Stupid teens in masks laughing and pretend-coughing. Meanwhile the customer in front of me is holding up the line waiting for a manager to come and explain why certain items aren't on the shelf. On the way out the lady ahead coughs while going out the door. There is a stiff breeze blowing in. I imagine a layer of Covid 19 coating me from head to toe. Hey but a mask will keep me safe, like a talisman, or a relic, or an amulet did from the Black Death. Good luck.
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Hey, you could take a little spray bottle with Clorox (2 tsp to 2 cups water) with you and spray it around you...especially if you feel a stiff breeze coming your way from another human...lol. Talk about "going to ground!"
 
Judycat said:
A face mask? You need full body armor. Social distancing ha. Three registers out of 10 open at Wal Mart has people standing in long lines. Another store has its card reader at the beginning of the belt, right where the next customer would begin placing their order. Once you are there you can't move back without violating the six-foot rule for the people behind. The same store is instituting one way aisles in all their stores. Great. Everyone will obey that rule, uh huh. Stupid teens in masks laughing and pretend-coughing. Meanwhile the customer in front of me is holding up the line waiting for a manager to come and explain why certain items aren't on the shelf. On the way out the lady ahead coughs while going out the door. There is a stiff breeze blowing in. I imagine a layer of Covid 19 coating me from head to toe. Hey but a mask will keep me safe, like a talisman, or a relic, or an amulet did from the Black Death. Good luck.
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Its allergy time and cold time, lots of people are coughing.
 
No, I have never worn one of those masks & I don't intend to. I go out for walks each morning 6 days/week & talk to fellow renters from our senior unit. We go shopping for groceries each Monday at 7 am. There are very few seniors at that time. For all those weeks I have never heard anyone cough. I also exercise 5 days/week to keep up with my health & strength. I do wash my hands with sanitizer every time I return back to the car but masks are out for me. Don't think it's my time to die yet. Call me foolish, call me stupid but I have noticed that all 5 people who died in my province also had several other health issues. Five people dead with a population of almost 1.3 million isn't a lot of dead people; is it? Most wouldn't agree with me but there is a tremendous of fear mongering going on with the media & it's got a lot of people scared. I keep my hands clean, keep my 2 metre distance but I'm not afraid to go outside & talk to anyone out there. I'm a social kind of guy & love to chat with anyone out there. I hear that many don't like to be inside then I don't know why they don't take a walk in the park. Fresh air is good for anyone; especially for guys like me who loves the fresh country air.
 
the thing is we all march to our own drummer, wearing a mask for any length of time can be uncomfortable, the doctors on TV dont wear masks... no they dont, and neither do they wear crash helmets on TV, but if they were to ride a motorbike i bet they would, just as they would wear a mask if they were invited onto a covid ward.... now we are not going onto a dangerous ward, but when in a supermarket who knows who we are passing... i will certainly be using a mask when out shopping, the govt of Scotland is suggestion masks be worn outside, the UK govt refuses to issue this warning, but there is a shortage of masks in England, so if everyone had to source a mask each there would be non for front line workers such as doctors or nurses, best information is... stay at home and stay safe....
 
I Received this article today from the Military Subscription that I want to share with you:
Army Says It Has Found the Best Fabric for DIY Face Masks
https://www.military.com/daily-news...best-fabric-face-masks.html?ESRC=eb_200429.nl
Four-ply microfiber cloth, which is popular for cleaning and polishing surfaces, according to the release.

Btw: Don't pay any attention to the comments at the end of this Article. There are more and more Trolls posting on this Military Subscription. One troll is "Military Watch Dog" and there are others.
 
I am beginning to doubt a lot of things about COVID. It's amazing that Pennsylvania is number 6 on the list of states with the most number of infected people, yet no one in our store (employees) has been affected by it and I don't know of anyone that has been diagnosed with the Virus. So, what gives?
 
oldman said:
I am beginning to doubt a lot of things about COVID. It's amazing that Pennsylvania is number 6 on the list of states with the most number of infected people, yet no one in our store (employees) has been affected by it and I don't know of anyone that has been diagnosed with the Virus. So, what gives?
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as they say its a big state, and perhaps youve been very lucky, i hope we all stay lucky...
 
oldman said:
I am beginning to doubt a lot of things about COVID. It's amazing that Pennsylvania is number 6 on the list of states with the most number of infected people, yet no one in our store (employees) has been affected by it and I don't know of anyone that has been diagnosed with the Virus. So, what gives?
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Maybe you're doing something right.
 

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