question about chicken

Boy, Win and ITS, do your posts ever rile me something fierce! :mad:

Should be zero tolerance of such, get caught doing that once, you're license is revoked, the lights turned out, and the doors locked forever.
 

Aunt Marg said:
Boy, Win and ITS, do your posts ever rile me something fierce! :mad:

Should be zero tolerance of such, get caught doing that once, you're license is revoked, the lights turned out, and the doors locked forever.
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I agree with that.

I was in no way excusing Food Lion (or any store) for doing that.
They should have been shut down...one and done.

I'm just saying that I don't believe it is wide-spread...I never said it was acceptable.
 

In The Sticks said:
I agree with that.

I was in no way excusing Food Lion (or any store) for doing that.
They should have been shut down...one and done.

I'm just saying that I don't believe it is wide-spread...I never said it was acceptable.
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Oh no, ITS, please don't think I was challenging your post, I was just doing general venting.

I hope and pray it's not widespread, and the cases that come to light (heaven forbid) I hope are dealt with accordingly and heavy-handed.
 
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Aunt Marg said:
Oh no, ITS, please don't think I was challenging your post, I was just doing general venting.

I hope and pray it's not widespread, and the cases that come to light (heaven forbid) I hope are dealt with a accordingly and heavy-handed.
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NOW I understand. Daggone internet, all those opportunities to project paranoia!!
So many voices, so little time...

It's INSANE!!!! Fines are never enough when it becomes a routine cost of doing business just like the light bill.

My last job had an on-site cafe. One of them was run by 3 women who would have fit in with Food Lion. I was getting a thing of yogurt and noticed that it was outdated. So I handed it to one of the owners, pointed out that it's expired and she shoved it right back at me: "Still good! Still good!"

I ordered a roast beef sandwich one day, and she pulled some meat out of a Ziploc bag. Standing 10 feet away I could see the slimy pink sheen on it. I told her to keep it and never went back.

They finally got booted out when some senior VP's admin ended up in the hospital. She was very very ill for quite a while.
 
In The Sticks said:
NOW I understand. Daggone internet, all those opportunities to project paranoia!!
So many voices, so little time...

It's INSANE!!!! Fines are never enough when it becomes a routine cost of doing business just like the light bill.

My last job had an on-site cafe. One of them was run by 3 women who would have fit in with Food Lion. I was getting a thing of yogurt and noticed that it was outdated. So I handed it to one of the owners, pointed out that it's expired and she shoved it right back at me: "Still good! Still good!"

I ordered a roast beef sandwich one day, and she pulled some meat out of a Ziploc bag. Standing 10 feet away I could see the slimy pink sheen on it. I told her to keep it and never went back.

They finally got booted out when some senior VP's admin ended up in the hospital. She was very very ill for quite a while.
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I couldn't agree more.

Dear husband and I had a similar experience a number of years ago, we went to a regular haunt of ours for supper, a Chinese food place, and though the meal went down okay, the after-effect was less than enjoyable, and that was our last visit there.

I figure if owners of such establishments can't ensure the quality and safety of their food, they don't deserve business.
 
Lakeland living said:
Learned over the years, it the nose does not like it dump it. Slime is an automatic dump, back into where ever I found it.
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I'm the exact same way.

If I have leftovers in the fridge and don't recall the exact day they went in, I toss them. I was tossing out leftover soups and half-cans of veggies I'm certain were still good, but I was not gonna risk getting sick. I finally bought some self-adhesive labels so I can put the Use By date on stuff. It's helped a lot.

Anything that's marginal, it's just not worth it.
 
In The Sticks said:
I'm the exact same way.

If I have leftovers in the fridge and don't recall the exact day they went in, I toss them. I was tossing out leftover soups and half-cans of veggies I'm certain were still good, but I was not gonna risk getting sick. I finally bought some self-adhesive labels so I can put the Use By date on stuff. It's helped a lot.

Anything that's marginal, it's just not worth it.
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Good thinking! I try and always use up leftovers within 3 days, otherwise out they go to the ravens.

Of course, proper refrigerator temps are a necessity... 1.7°C to 3.3°C or 35° to 38°F.
 
My fridge is at 37°F.

I bought water-soluble labels on Amazon. They're pretty slick. They stick just as any standard label would, and when you run them under water they dissolve. You can put your container in the dishwasher with the label on and it will go away and not clog the drain. Or you can just run it under the faucet and *poof*

I had them on my Wish List for the longest time and finally broke down and added them to an order. I use them a lot.
 
In The Sticks said:
My fridge is at 37°F.

I bought water-soluble labels on Amazon. They're pretty slick. They stick just as any standard label would, and when you run them under water they dissolve. You can put your container in the dishwasher with the label on and it will go away and not clog the drain. Or you can just run it under the faucet and *poof*

I had them on my Wish List for the longest time and finally broke down and added them to an order. I use them a lot.
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Well now, I can't say I've ever heard of such a thing, but to they were sound slick! I'm definitely going to be looking for some the next time I'm shopping!

Thanks for mentioning them, ITS! :)
 
In The Sticks said:
Decades ago a chain here called Food Lion got caught bleaching outdated chicken and re-wrapping it with a new Sell By Date.

I hope that this stuff is not too wide-spread. It's easy to sensationalize the few rogues. As much as I've cooked throughout the past 45+ years, and eaten home-cooked food my entire life before then, I can't believe the supply is that tainted.
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Unfortunately, the worse the economy is, the more of this we can expect & it's really bad now. It's worth the risk to the store.
 
Aunt Marg said:
Boy, Win and ITS, do your posts ever rile me something fierce! :mad:

Should be zero tolerance of such, get caught doing that once, you're license is revoked, the lights turned out, and the doors locked forever.
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"Zero tolerance???" You may remember those letter grades they assigned to restaurants & markets years ago - A, B, C. The grades were based on inspections - proper temperatures for food storage, cleanliness, food safety, etc.
Several health inspectors made fortunes selling A's to restaurants & markets that were a health hazard.
Wherever there is money, there will be corruption.
 
win231 said:
"Zero tolerance???" You may remember those letter grades they assigned to restaurants & markets years ago - A, B, C. The grades were based on inspections - proper temperatures for food storage, cleanliness, food safety, etc.
Several health inspectors made fortunes selling A's to restaurants & markets that were a health hazard.
Wherever there is money, there will be corruption.
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I'm trying to muster a counter-argument, but I'm as cynical as you are.

But when bleaching outdated chicken is outed in the news, it can't be "write a check and then it's business as usual." That's well beyond "imperfection."
 
win231 said:
"Zero tolerance???" You may remember those letter grades they assigned to restaurants & markets years ago - A, B, C. The grades were based on inspections - proper temperatures for food storage, cleanliness, food safety, etc.
Several health inspectors made fortunes selling A's to restaurants & markets that were a health hazard.
Wherever there is money, there will be corruption.
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Sad but true, and not at all surprising.
 
Aunt Marg said:
Gosh, Em, where to start. Related to bacon, I got so frustrated last year that I wrote the Canadian bacon plant to scorn them out over their packages containing nothing more than sliced fat, and what I find with packaged pork chops (not vacuumed sealed, just plastic wrapped), is occasionally when I open them there's an almost slimy coating on them... not fat, just a slimy type... I don't know what, so before cooking, I take a knife and scape the slime off of them.

I truly and honestly believe we wouldn't eat half the stuff we do if we only knew.
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Oh my - Besides issues with chicken, I have also opened packages of slimy pork /-; Makes me wish that I owned a farm. Even fruits and vegetables have had safety issues in the last couple years. As someone else stated in this thread, beef repackaging is another issue that I have seen. They roll it so that the older, grey colored ground meat is tucked away and only the fresh, healthy looking stuff shows through the wrapper. Where are all the inspectors? Why aren't these practices outlawed or enforced? Scary. I have lost my appetite for the day. /-;
 
Em in Ohio said:
Oh my - Besides issues with chicken, I have also opened packages of slimy pork /-; Makes me wish that I owned a farm. Even fruits and vegetables have had safety issues in the last couple years. As someone else stated in this thread, beef repackaging is another issue that I have seen. They roll it so that the older, grey colored ground meat is tucked away and only the fresh, healthy looking stuff shows through the wrapper. Where are all the inspectors? Why aren't these practices outlawed or enforced? Scary. I have lost my appetite for the day. /-;
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OMG, Em... I'm never going to view packaged ground beef the same again!

It's time we as consumers started standing taller on this, taking more charge and holding the industry 100% accountable. As Win231, mentioned, inspectors cannot be trusted, and I, 100% agree.
 
Em in Ohio said:
As someone else stated in this thread, beef repackaging is another issue that I have seen. They roll it so that the older, grey colored ground meat is tucked away and only the fresh, healthy looking stuff shows through the wrapper.
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I've noticed that- especially with ground beef.
One company- I can't place the name- goes farther: the beef is wrapped in plastic that you can't see through.
 
Aunt Marg said:
OMG, Em... I'm never going to view packaged ground beef the same again!

It's time we as consumers started standing taller on this, taking more charge and holding the industry 100% accountable. As Win231, mentioned, inspectors cannot be trusted, and I, 100% agree.
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Sadly, it's probably not the time to try and get real inspections and compliance - I doubt it would work now, when folks feel lucky to find the basic foods we need in the stores. /-;
 
Em in Ohio said:
Sadly, it's probably not the time to try and get real inspections and compliance - I doubt it would work now, when folks feel lucky to find the basic foods we need in the stores. /-;
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A valid point indeed, but I can't tell you how often I dream of the day when consumers carry the torch.
 
JaniceM said:
I've noticed that- especially with ground beef.
One company- I can't place the name- goes farther: the beef is wrapped in plastic that you can't see through.
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Are you talking about those "logs" of ground beef that are rolled in the white & red plastic?

What looks like burger in the pics below is just the wrapper...it's not transparent.
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