Why Men Need Female Guidance

That is too bad! Such can reduce hard-earned wages quickly. My old climber could drop and lower branches without any damage. He died of cancer and the young guy he trained did beautiful results, but it looked like a dark ages war with all the branches dropped from 40 feet that speared in my lawn one 2 feet deep cutting my sprinkler electric cable and breaking a PVC line. I fixed it at my expense as I have lots of compassion for the working person, so I told him to not worry about it, just remember that some of those branches should have been lowered on a rope.
 

In The Sticks said:
It must be painful having a label for your life rather than just having your own life.

I guess mine is "Sofa-Centric."
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I understand your point. I was only responding to the OP.
During my life, the significant female guidance I've received was from my Mother and Grandmother otherwise I have mostly stumbled along following the male ethic.
I love my Sofa too;)
 
MsFox said:
That is too bad! Such can reduce hard-earned wages quickly. My old climber could drop and lower branches without any damage. He died of cancer and the young guy he trained did beautiful results, but it looked like a dark ages war with all the branches dropped from 40 feet that speared in my lawn one 2 feet deep cutting my sprinkler electric cable and breaking a PVC line. I fixed it at my expense as I have lots of compassion for the working person, so I told him to not worry about it, just remember that some of those branches should have been lowered on a rope.
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We rig down all larger wood unless we're on a construction site.
 
Gaer said:
I don't think men need female guidance. I know! I always post controversial opinions and I will be attacked for this. Sorry, That's the way I feel!
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No attack from me and I appreciated your reply. I was just sharing a true story and titled it to be humorous. I agree that neither needs guidance because of sex and my story is about old neighbors helping each other. We all do careless things at times and great to have friends or partners or spouses that look after each other. My sense of humor is sometimes taken as a serious which is not my intent. I have another friend in the neighborhood and we always let each other know where we are going. We started this after one neighbor in her 80's that lived alone fell on her patio and knocked herself out and came too during the night and I faintly heard someone yelling help. I got a flashlight and called another neighbor and we finally traced the voice. She was one of these very private people and very unfriendly. She went to assisted living after that. She had been there for hours and was suffering hypothermia. That was before I lost most of my hearing and had my bedroom window open because of a hot flash that wasn't really a flash.
 
win231 said:
Do women need male guidance?
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Yes, we all need guidance or help or instruction at times but as Gaer says we are all individuals and all stand alone. Many a man and woman have lived alone and many have died alone. I guess I should have titled this story differently. Maybe, The Old Man and The Roof.
 
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treeguy64 said:
I'm thinking of getting a battery operated climbing saw.
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I picked up a B&D electric for climbing and happy with it so far... Also great to take camping...
Grandson uses it to cut limbs for the fire pit... With very close supervision as he is only 8.
I worked for years helping a friend with his tree business, learned to climb with him.
Borrowed some spikes and use my repelling gear, and a modified fall harness...
Just cleaning stuff up around the house before a new roof and addition goes on....
 
PEOPLE sometimes need guidance. I think the OP was intending to be humorous, but it can be a sore subject for some.

My ex husband would heartily agree that because I was so completely inept at pretty much everything, I needed all KINDS of "guidance." (control, domination, intimidation etc.,) :cautious: I'm far enough out from that relationship how, with an abundant amount of therapy and education under my belt that I can almost joke about it.

Ron will ASK for guidance and/or opinions. He has no ego, so he has no problem asking for direction or telling me he's at sea in some area. He's also very easy when I offer unbidden guidance....mostly. ;)

He was up on the porch roof cleaning it up after the last major tornado ripped off a bunch of it. I heard him cursing and went out to see what the problem was. When I saw what was happening, I went back inside to grab something I knew would help. I climbed up the ladder and attempted to get his attention, but he was pretty snappy and told me to just let him finish! I finally yelled at him to STOP, and told him "These will help," and handed him his glasses which he'd forgotten to put on and so kept missing the nails he was trying to drive. 🤦‍♀️

He had the grace to look very sheepish, and offered an immediate apology!
 
old medic said:
I picked up a B&D electric for climbing and happy with it so far... Also great to take camping...
Grandson uses it to cut limbs for the fire pit... With very close supervision as he is only 8.
I worked for years helping a friend with his tree business, learned to climb with him.
Borrowed some spikes and use my repelling gear, and a modified fall harness...
Just cleaning stuff up around the house before a new roof and addition goes on....
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Cool. You, of course, know that spikes are only for take-downs, right? Spike penetration of outer bark makes trees far more susceptible to opportunistic pathogens.
 
Ronni said:
PEOPLE sometimes need guidance. I think the OP was intending to be humorous, but it can be a sore subject for some.

My ex husband would heartily agree that because I was so completely inept at pretty much everything, I needed all KINDS of "guidance." (control, domination, intimidation etc.,) :cautious: I'm far enough out from that relationship how, with an abundant amount of therapy and education under my belt that I can almost joke about it.

Ron will ASK for guidance and/or opinions. He has no ego, so he has no problem asking for direction or telling me he's at sea in some area. He's also very easy when I offer unbidden guidance....mostly. ;)

He was up on the porch roof cleaning it up after the last major tornado ripped off a bunch of it. I heard him cursing and went out to see what the problem was. When I saw what was happening, I went back inside to grab something I knew would help. I climbed up the ladder and attempted to get his attention, but he was pretty snappy and told me to just let him finish! I finally yelled at him to STOP, and told him "These will help," and handed him his glasses which he'd forgotten to put on and so kept missing the nails he was trying to drive. 🤦‍♀️

He had the grace to look very sheepish, and offered an immediate apology!
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Great story @Ronni This is the kind of fun story I was hoping others would post. I bought a new lawnmower and couldn't get the thing started. I had the choke on and it still wouldn't draw gas except to sput once. Zek hears me cursing myself for letting the salesman talk me into this fancy easy to operate mower and asked if he might suggest something. After I raved on about operating just about everything that has tracks and wheels in the past and this mower is garbage and a defect. I pause and Zek says, "Try pushing the choke the other way honey, this mower has the choke on automatically and your old one had to be set manually. You just turned the choke off before you cranked it and got all cranky." I felt really stupid for not reading the manual.
 
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win231 said:
Do women need male guidance?
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Well, somehow we need to tap into and take advantage of other peoples "brain power" whether they are male or female. My wife is a pretty smart woman who looks at things a bit differently than I do. She often spots things or concepts that I miss, I would be a fool to not capitalize on this additional capability.

As a typical engineer, I tend to think in a very linear fashion: to get to Z you have to go through A & B & C ….. . But experience as a manager has taught me that people who think in a non-linear fashion are those who tend to be able to spot those instances where you can go from A directly to Z without all of the intermediate steps. The last thing I need is someone who always agrees with me. Artists in particular tend to think in a non-linear fashion and I have come to value them.

Getting useful information and insights from people can be a bit tricky. When faced with organizing a project, I found out that if I started a meeting stating how I wanted things done, I was likely to get a bunch of nodding and useless agreements when I asked for comments. If I started a meeting by asking "Lt Smith how would you approach this?" Then I would get useful comments and insights. You have to make it easy for people to provide input and you have to recognize good input when you get it, and that includes your spouse.

And so it is with my wife. While we both have our "spheres of knowledge/dominance", there is a lot of areas where bouncing ideas around always leads us to better decisions, particularly on major decisions. Within our own individual "spheres of knowledge/dominance" there is little reason for "guidance" from the other.
 
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Gaer said:
I don't think men need female guidance. I know! I always post controversial opinions and I will be attacked for this. Sorry, That's the way I feel!
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Not attacking-it depends on the male and females need guidance as well, and it depends the female. After all my son with DS is male and over thirty so he’s a man, but he needs “guidance” all the time.
 
Aneeda72 said:
I disagree, it takes a village. Your comment brings to mind an old song “No man is an island, no man stands alone” and that is all I remember of that. 🤣
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No, it is a poem written by John Dunn, and it was read out by our secondary school headmaster, to try to engender the thoughts in our young minds. :) !

All I can remember is,:"No man is an island, complete in himself, all are part of the main......"(apologies for any inaccuracies in wording!). .:cool:
 
I very seldom have to give my husband guidance, he is very intelligent and can do many things and he does them right. I do give him advice at times and most of the time he doesn't listen.The advice I give him is to slow down and relax or ask my son or son in law for help if he needs something done. Does he listen "NO" do I still try "YES". Will either of us change "NO"
 
grahamg said:
No, it is a poem written by John Dunn, and it was read out by our secondary school headmaster, to try to engender the thoughts in our young minds. :) !

All I can remember is,:"No man is an island, complete in himself, all are part of the main......"(apologies for any inaccuracies in wording!). .:cool:
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@grhamg Goodness had to google it. My ”No Man is an Island” is a song by Joan Baez.
 
Here we go:

'No Man is an Island'
No man is an island entire of itself; every man
is a piece of the continent, a part of the main;
if a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe
is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as
well as any manner of thy friends or of thine
own were; any man's death diminishes me,
because I am involved in mankind.
And therefore never send to know for whom
the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.


Olde English Version
No man is an Iland, intire of itselfe; every man
is a peece of the Continent, a part of the maine;
if a Clod bee washed away by the Sea, Europe
is the lesse, as well as if a Promontorie were, as
well as if a Manor of thy friends or of thine
owne were; any mans death diminishes me,
because I am involved in Mankinde;
And therefore never send to know for whom
the bell tolls; It tolls for thee.

MEDITATION XVII
Devotions upon Emergent Occasions
John Donne
https://web.cs.dal.ca/~johnston/poetry/island.html

This link shows the possible connection to Joan Baez and other performers:
https://grassrootsedu.net/no-man-is-an-island/
 

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