Tell me again why we're all wearing masks?

Aneeda72 said:
I don’t think WHO or the FDA lie as much as they just guess wrong. 🤣
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I don't think they lie at all, especially when the UK representative on the WHO says learning to live with this virus is the only option we have, as it cannot be stopped ultimately, (countries like Sweden would not have followed the policies they have, avoiding lockdowns, if they thought otherwise).
I accept scientists can be wrong, and of course there will always be disagreements between them.
 

grahamg said:
I don't think they lie at all, especially when the UK representative on the WHO says learning to live with this virus is the only option we have, as it cannot be stopped ultimately, (countries like Sweden would not have followed the policies they have, avoiding lockdowns, if they thought otherwise).
I accept scientists can be wrong, and of course there will always be disagreements between them.
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The problem is at my age, with my medical problems, I have no chance to “to live with it”. Based on that, and the fact that I refuse to become a hermit, I’ve decided to go through my dvd collection, which is extensive, and start giving them to the children and grandchild.

I love movies, been buying dvds for thirty years. Time to let them go, as I really can’t take them with me. 🤣
 

squatting dog said:
I'm not a fan of masks and never have. That said, I have a question for anyone these days that say they're wearing a mask to protect others from their sneeze or cough. Did you also wear a mask anytime you were suffering from a flu like or cold like symptom in the past? If not, why not? Seems like that would have been a good way to prevent others from catching anything from you.
Anyway, another peeve is the fact that few people know, or take the time to learn the proper procedure for a mask. (never mind that most masks do not offer real protection). Have you ever been to a hospital and watched the doctor making rounds in a virus ward? If so, you would know that everytime he or she leaves one patient, they will change out that mask for a fresh one before seeing the next patient. How many of you change your mask after every interaction with people and how many store people do you see change that mask after every customer?
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Now that access to masks has improved I change them every time, but they are expensive. Our clinics have always required you wear a mask if you have a cold, the flu, a temp., etc.
 
squatting dog said:
I'm not a fan of masks and never have. That said, I have a question for anyone these days that say they're wearing a mask to protect others from their sneeze or cough. Did you also wear a mask anytime you were suffering from a flu like or cold like symptom in the past? If not, why not? Seems like that would have been a good way to prevent others from catching anything from you.
Anyway, another peeve is the fact that few people know, or take the time to learn the proper procedure for a mask. (never mind that most masks do not offer real protection). Have you ever been to a hospital and watched the doctor making rounds in a virus ward? If so, you would know that everytime he or she leaves one patient, they will change out that mask for a fresh one before seeing the next patient. How many of you change your mask after every interaction with people and how many store people do you see change that mask after every customer?
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If you are not doing direct care with a patient in a clinic or hospital type setting you are not bound by any policy to change your mask after everyone you encounter. You are wearing it to avoid spreading your germs to those around you. The problem lies with proper usage of the mask itself. If you're gonna wear it improperly or paw at it and not wash your hands then you have a problem. Do you go out in public and change your mask every time you walk past someone? That would be unrealistic.
 
CarolfromTX said:
This article says that asymptomatic people are most likely NOT spreading the virus. Huh. Seems like just last week when they were telling me I could unknowingly be spreading the disease. This is sort of similar to the directive to wipe down your groceries and wash your veggies one week, and then the next week you can just put the groceries away. When I go out, I see fewer and fewer people wearing masks. Don't get me wrong -- I'm still going to be washing my hands frequently. But as things gradually open up, I'm going to open up too. And my anxiety level has dropped dramatically.

https://www.ibtimes.com/covid-19-tr...c-individuals-not-key-pandemic-spread-2990517
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Reading more articles lately that wearing Face Masks is a bad thing!

... Face Masks Pose Serious Risks To The Healthy

https://technocracy.news/blaylock-face-masks-pose-serious-risks-to-the-healthy/
 
MarciKS said:
If you are not doing direct care with a patient in a clinic or hospital type setting you are not bound by any policy to change your mask after everyone you encounter. You are wearing it to avoid spreading your germs to those around you. The problem lies with proper usage of the mask itself. If you're gonna wear it improperly or paw at it and not wash your hands then you have a problem. Do you go out in public and change your mask every time you walk past someone? That would be unrealistic.
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No, I change mind one a shopping trip, so I might go to several stores and when I get home the mask goes into the trash
 
Faucidweeb is back on the news, attempting to stoke the panic embers back into a raging fire, again. I strongly dislike this guy, who makes scary predictions, and then dials them back as the evidence shows how off the mark he usually is. He needs to go away, for good!
 
treeguy64 said:
Faucidweeb is back on the news, attempting to stoke the panic embers back into a raging fire, again. I strongly dislike this guy, who makes scary predictions, and then dials them back as the evidence shows how off the mark he usually is. He needs to go away, for good!
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He's one of those "Gloom & Doom" doctors. He thinks it makes him appear more knowledgeable. Him & Dr. Oz would make a perfect couple.
:)
 
win231 said:
He's one of those "Gloom & Doom" doctors. He thinks it makes him appear more knowledgeable. Him & Dr. Oz would make a perfect couple.
:)
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No one is being forced, in the USA, to wear a mask. If you don’t want to, don’t.
 
squatting dog said:
One more thing that has cropped up is that most people are unaware that wearing a mask for extended periods of time increase's the risk of them getting a bacterial infection.
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From? Not washing the mask often enough or not replacing them often enough?
 
asp3 said:
Here's another article from one of my favorite science related sites, sciencenews.org.

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/coronavirus-covid-19-who-asymptomatic-cases-spread

There are places here in the US where you must wear a mask to enter certain places, so in some places one is forced to either wear a mask or to choose not to enter a place that requires them.
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From the above site: "
Studies have shown that people can be contagious before they develop COVID-19 symptoms such as a fever, loss of smell or taste, or a cough (SN: 3/13/20). But it’s still unclear at what point infected people are most likely to transmit the virus to someone else, or for how long. One study estimated that more than 40 percent of cases were transmitted in the days before symptoms appeared (SN: 4/15/20).

There’s no debate among scientists that people are contagious for a couple of days before symptoms start, says Marm Kilpatrick, an infectious diseases researcher at the University of California, Santa Cruz. “No one doubts that,” he says.

What’s less clear is how contagious asymptomatic cases are."

The only point that I wish to make is that this pandemic is not over and any one of us may still contract it and spread it unknowingly - I choose to err on the side of caution.
 
Aneeda72 said:
No one is being forced, in the USA, to wear a mask. If you don’t want to, don’t.
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Depends where you live. Here, in Los Angeles, we can't walk into any store without wearing a mask. They now require masks outside, too but they're not enforcing it.
 
win231 said:
Depends where you live. Here, in Los Angeles, we can't walk into any store without wearing a mask. They now require masks outside, too but they're not enforcing it.
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Exactly, its like the no shirt, no shoes, no service signs that stores have enforced for decades. It’s a choice, just not a choice that people like.
 
Aneeda72 said:
From? Not washing the mask often enough or not replacing them often enough?
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Apparently from what I could glean from different articles, wearing it for prolonged periods of time was instead of exhaling your own bacteria, it was tapping it and allowing it to enter your airway and thereby infecting your own airway. Here's one snippet I found.

The bacterial count on the surface of surgical masks increased with extended wearing times; significant difference was found between the 4- to 6-hour and 0-hour to 2-hour groups, with the bacterial counts showing a significant increase in the 2-hours group.
 

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