Could You Live This Lifestyle?

OneEyedDiva

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In April 2018, my husband and several congregants of the most prominent masjid (mosque) in our city, visited the Bruderhof community. They are non-denominational Christians who have been autonomous for years. Their community is on 500 acres, they grow and raise their own food, have a couple of manufacturing plants, schools and daycare systems. They have similar communities in other parts of the U.S. and the world. The Bruderhofs are very much into peace, forgiveness and modest, simple living. Some travel to different schools teaching anti bullying.

When we arrived and were taken on a tour of their school which features some of the woodwork by it’s students. Afterward we bused to the common dining area and were greeted warmly by several residents. During lunch our Imam spoke as did their minister. My husband and I talked with a nice young couple at our table. I hope they are as happy as they seemed because the Bruderhofs do not believe in divorce.

After lunch we broke up into groups, each with a different host. Our host, Janet took us to her home, we had tea and her husband, the minister came in with some of our Muslim brothers and an interesting conversation ensued. The Bruderhofs have their own modest living quarters within several buildings. They share kitchen space (don’t know if they share bathrooms). I did not see locks on the doors of the apartment buildings. They do not have T.V.s

Later we toured their woodworking factory where we each got a cutting board, then their industrial laundry facility where everyone’s clothes are washed, labeled and put in bins for residents to pick up. No one pays rent nor do they earn a salary. All their needs are taken care of with the agreement that they will work at whatever job they’re skilled at or needed in until they are no longer able or perhaps reach a certain age. Janet told me there’s even a 90 year old resident that goes to work because she enjoys it so much. All clothes are made by community seamstresses. The women dress modestly as Muslim women do…long skirts or dresses, hair covered, though not completely like we do. As peaceful, lovely and impressive as it seems, I need my privacy and independence. It might be good for someone who has no family to look after him/her and/or who has no money. I imagine one would have to accept their faith and definitely abide by their rules. https://www.bruderhof.com/en
 

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I've seen them around, mostly in grocery stores, almost always a young woman with too many children, IMO. Always white women. They seem standoffish, definitely not friendly.

I think it's fascinating you went to visit them, good for you!
 
It wouldn't appeal to me.

I have no problem with intentional communities if it is a personal choice/decision to live in one.

I'm not sure that it would be a good idea to raise children in such a sheltered environment unless they have the ability to experience mainstream society or participate in some sort of cultural exchange with other people their own age in the area where the community is located.
 
This sounds like a commune. The old communist idea of "to each according to his needs; from each according to his abilities" comes to mind. But, while that may sound good, it requires wholehearted participation from everyone involved, and the whole project can be ruined by a couple freeloaders.

I would be interested to know what percentage of children remain in the community after they grow up, and what percentage leave.
 
I agree with RadishRose. This lifestyle is very similar to the Amish & Mennonites. Years ago I visited them and got invited back to go to a church service and dinner at one of their homes. I got to sit in one of those horse pulled buggies to church. It was truly magical. The service was very modest but enjoyable . I sang my heart out. After church I was invited back to have Sunday dinner with them all and the way they all get together to prepare a meal is impressive.

What I noticed is that they all work together which they are used to. That’s all they’ve ever known whereas I’m used to being alone.

Some things in this lifestyle are so appealing but many aren’t. It wouldn’t be something I could do but I do admire those who make this work. Not everyone stays in these religious groups but most do.

It’s great the you got to experience this though OEDiva . It’s an experience of a lifetime .

Didn’t you have experience in a different type of marital arrangement before? I’m pretty sure I remember you telling us about it one day.

Note: the last 2 pictures aren’t mine

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It wouldn't appeal to me.

I have no problem with intentional communities if it is a personal choice/decision to live in one.

I'm not sure that it would be a good idea to raise children in such a sheltered environment unless they have the ability to experience mainstream society or participate in some sort of cultural exchange with other people their own age in the area where the community is located.
Aunt Bea you bring up an excellent point. I was impressed by how well behaved the children are and how the young people politely and efficiently helped serve the meals. I was also impressed when I saw their woodwork projects, including huge open cubbies for their coats and books displayed throughout the school but those things do not prepare them for "the real world" outside of their communities. I'm sure I heard one of the brothers say that some of their high school graduates go to non Bruderhof universities. On the way home on the bus, my husband and I talked about how going from like you say, such a sheltered environment to a regular university doesn't seem like a good idea. We could only hope that their strong moral and religious convictions would cause them to stay away from the temptations of college life.

@raybar "I would be interested to know what percentage of children remain in the community after they grow up, and what percentage leave."
That's an interesting question....I'd be curious to know too.













aunt b
 
We live in an area where the Amish and Mennonites abound....we have to be careful when driving because of all the buggies on the highways. These are Very Nice people, and they work hard to support themselves and their communities. The Mennonites own several local businesses, and they are the most honest people to do business with. The Amish are the more "communal" types, and most of their children seem to follow their parents teachings and stay close to their beliefs.
 
In April 2018, my husband and several congregants of the most prominent masjid (mosque) in our city, visited the Bruderhof community. They are non-denominational Christians who have been autonomous for years. Their community is on 500 acres, they grow and raise their own food, have a couple of manufacturing plants, schools and daycare systems. They have similar communities in other parts of the U.S. and the world. The Bruderhofs are very much into peace, forgiveness and modest, simple living. Some travel to different schools teaching anti bullying.

When we arrived and were taken on a tour of their school which features some of the woodwork by it’s students. Afterward we bused to the common dining area and were greeted warmly by several residents. During lunch our Imam spoke as did their minister. My husband and I talked with a nice young couple at our table. I hope they are as happy as they seemed because the Bruderhofs do not believe in divorce.

After lunch we broke up into groups, each with a different host. Our host, Janet took us to her home, we had tea and her husband, the minister came in with some of our Muslim brothers and an interesting conversation ensued. The Bruderhofs have their own modest living quarters within several buildings. They share kitchen space (don’t know if they share bathrooms). I did not see locks on the doors of the apartment buildings. They do not have T.V.s

Later we toured their woodworking factory where we each got a cutting board, then their industrial laundry facility where everyone’s clothes are washed, labeled and put in bins for residents to pick up. No one pays rent nor do they earn a salary. All their needs are taken care of with the agreement that they will work at whatever job they’re skilled at or needed in until they are no longer able or perhaps reach a certain age. Janet told me there’s even a 90 year old resident that goes to work because she enjoys it so much. All clothes are made by community seamstresses. The women dress modestly as Muslim women do…long skirts or dresses, hair covered, though not completely like we do. As peaceful, lovely and impressive as it seems, I need my privacy and independence. It might be good for someone who has no family to look after him/her and/or who has no money. I imagine one would have to accept their faith and definitely abide by their rules. https://www.bruderhof.com/en
Could I live this lifestyle? Absolutely not.
 
it is a lifestyle of seclusion however, they are working together for the good of their community. if no one has a paying job there, how do they afford to buy things if they need them? i see there was no television.

i have to ask, were there any electronics there? also, did you happen to notice what they did for entertainment during the course of a day? it might not be so bad. i attend a non-denominational church.
 
Me personally- not in a million years. But I'd have that same viewpoint for anything separated from the mainstream.

That topic specifically- no matter what name is used, they have the same roots: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anabaptism
And my opinion- whatever people believe and practice, they believe and practice *shrug*... but when they involve individuals who have no say- especially children- they need to be investigated.
 
In April 2018, my husband and several congregants of the most prominent masjid (mosque) in our city, visited the Bruderhof community. They are non-denominational Christians who have been autonomous for years. Their community is on 500 acres, they grow and raise their own food, have a couple of manufacturing plants, schools and daycare systems. They have similar communities in other parts of the U.S. and the world. The Bruderhofs are very much into peace, forgiveness and modest, simple living. Some travel to different schools teaching anti bullying.

When we arrived and were taken on a tour of their school which features some of the woodwork by it’s students. Afterward we bused to the common dining area and were greeted warmly by several residents. During lunch our Imam spoke as did their minister. My husband and I talked with a nice young couple at our table. I hope they are as happy as they seemed because the Bruderhofs do not believe in divorce.

After lunch we broke up into groups, each with a different host. Our host, Janet took us to her home, we had tea and her husband, the minister came in with some of our Muslim brothers and an interesting conversation ensued. The Bruderhofs have their own modest living quarters within several buildings. They share kitchen space (don’t know if they share bathrooms). I did not see locks on the doors of the apartment buildings. They do not have T.V.s

Later we toured their woodworking factory where we each got a cutting board, then their industrial laundry facility where everyone’s clothes are washed, labeled and put in bins for residents to pick up. No one pays rent nor do they earn a salary. All their needs are taken care of with the agreement that they will work at whatever job they’re skilled at or needed in until they are no longer able or perhaps reach a certain age. Janet told me there’s even a 90 year old resident that goes to work because she enjoys it so much. All clothes are made by community seamstresses. The women dress modestly as Muslim women do…long skirts or dresses, hair covered, though not completely like we do. As peaceful, lovely and impressive as it seems, I need my privacy and independence. It might be good for someone who has no family to look after him/her and/or who has no money. I imagine one would have to accept their faith and definitely abide by their rules. https://www.bruderhof.com/en
Very interesting post. I was just reading about Christians in what is now the Czech Republic who broke off from the Catholic Church in the 1400s to practice a form of communal living, free from the pomp and corruption of the Church.
 
Nope. I'm not interested in a group of men having that kind of control over me.

While I have some admiration for them, I recognize that communities like these tend to be extremely harsh on children who decide to leave. Emotional blackmail and shunning are alive and well.
 
Sounds like some of the Amish, Hutterites, Mennonites FLDS and the Shakers. The Shakers died off.

Although I can see benefits to this life style, I could never live that way all the time. How nice for you Diva, to have had such a positive visit. I would find it very interesting.

I was thinking that too. It sounds like the Shakers. Fine for them. Not for me though.
 
The Shakers died off because of their rule about postmarital celibacy.

Marriage is challenging enough, but really....
 
I agree with RadishRose. This lifestyle is very similar to the Amish & Mennonites. Years ago I visited them and got invited back to go to a church service and dinner at one of their homes. I got to sit in one of those horse pulled buggies to church. It was truly magical. The service was very modest but enjoyable . I sang my heart out. After church I was invited back to have Sunday dinner with them all and the way they all get together to prepare a meal is impressive.

What I noticed is that they all work together which they are used to. That’s all they’ve ever known whereas I’m used to being alone.

Some things in this lifestyle are so appealing but many aren’t. It wouldn’t be something I could do but I do admire those who make this work. Not everyone stays in these religious groups but most do.

It’s great the you got to experience this though OEDiva . It’s an experience of a lifetime .

Didn’t you have experience in a different type of marital arrangement before? I’m pretty sure I remember you telling us about it one day.

Note: the last 2 pictures aren’t mine

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I like your account too Keesha. Reminds me they also gave buggy rides but we didn't have time to take one. Yes I was in a plural marriage. My husband had another wife when we married; she was actually the one who suggested he take another wife. She and I got along well. Her sisters liked me and invited me to their events. My sister, son, DIL and grandchildren knew and liked her. They all loved my husband who was very well known and loved in Muslim communities across many states. I found out early on that traditional marriage was not for me and said I'd never marry again...ever! But meeting my husband changed that. I was 47 when we married. He and my co-wife were a little more than a year older than me.
 
I'm not sure I'd be interested in a group living situation. I'd certainly never be interested in one where the common thread was religion. I'm not sure what kind of group I'd be able to do it with. I'd also have to have a lot of personal freedom and personal space in such a situation and that doesn't seem to be one of the common traits of group living situations.
 
I like your account too Keesha. Reminds me they also gave buggy rides but we didn't have time to take one. Yes I was in a plural marriage. My husband had another wife when we married; she was actually the one who suggested he take another wife. She and I got along well. Her sisters liked me and invited me to their events. My sister, son, DIL and grandchildren knew and liked her. They all loved my husband who was very well known and loved in Muslim communities across many states. I found out early on that traditional marriage was not for me and said I'd never marry again...ever! But meeting my husband changed that. I was 47 when we married. He and my co-wife were a little more than a year older than me.
I find it fascinating. There was a popular tv show called sister wives and the wives probably had a closer relationship with the sister wives then the husband they shared. It was an interesting show. Not something I could do but if it worked for you , which it clearly did, then why not.
Sometimes I wish I had a sister wife to have fun with . Lol

Would you ever consider that type of relationship again? Did you ever have a regular relationship before this?
If I’m being to inquisitive don’t worry about answering. I’m just curious.
 
I'm not sure I'd be interested in a group living situation. I'd certainly never be interested in one where the common thread was religion. I'm not sure what kind of group I'd be able to do it with. I'd also have to have a lot of personal freedom and personal space in such a situation and that doesn't seem to be one of the common traits of group living situations.

No I couldn’t either. When this incident happened in my life, I wasn’t at a good place so briefly considered it but I have always found them fascinating. Of course I’d hate to be shunned. That stuff is horrible. Nothing like getting ostracized for your sins by a judgmental clan
 


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