How brave/courageous are you for testing a vaccine?

OneEyedDiva said:
I wouldn't volunteer. Let them perfect the vaccine first then maybe I'll think about taking it.
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Here is a thought, would you be happy to see young people offered the vaccine first or early on, because as we know, most won't hardly show symptoms if the vaccine were to infect them with Covid 19 by mistake, rather than protect them per se, (they'll be protecting anyway, but you know what I mean I hope?).
In Europe its being reported the behaviour of young people who are perhaps less fearful of the disease, is playing some part in recent "hot spots", or localised spikes in infection, so there is a rationale for increasing immunity in young people early on don't you think? :unsure: .
 
grahamg said:
Here is a thought, would you be happy to see young people offered the vaccine first or early on, because as we know, most won't hardly show symptoms if the vaccine were to infect them with Covid 19 by mistake, rather than protect them per se, (they'll be protecting anyway, but you know what I mean I hope?).
In Europe its being reported the behaviour of young people who are perhaps less fearful of the disease, is playing some part in recent "hot spots", or localised spikes in infection, so there is a rationale for increasing immunity in young people early on don't you think? :unsure: .
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At this point Graham, I'm leery of a vaccine as are many people of color. I also know young people still don’t believe they can get this disease. My chance encounter with a young man at the P.O. today is a good example. More on that later. I can’t say I’d recommend the vaccine to anyone at this point. My reasons are that:
1.Having been a Disease Intervention Specialist (aka Public Health Representative) for the state of N.J. and consulting with various doctors, nurses and health professionals for over 15 years, I know that even so called experts can miss something, misdiagnose something and mistreat something.
2. I also know that diseases mutate. For instance, we predicted over 22 years ago, that there would be an antibiotic resistant strain of gonorrhea. Sure enough, that came to be and I read it can literally be deadly. I know any man who has the classic symptoms of gonorrhea and can't get cured would wish he was dead. Chinese scientists have identified two different strains of the corona virus, one more deadly than the other.
https://www.latimes.com/science/sto...-say-second-coronavirus-strain-more-dangerous
3. The efficacy of vaccines and (ie: flu shots, etc.) cannot be guaranteed. And would the vaccine for one strain be effective on another? Notice they keep changing up the flu shots every year. One year I read it was only 40% effective. Another year I found out there were two different sets of the flu shot...one for seniors and one for others. I never have taken the shot, even when it's offered for free. Same with the shingles vaccine because they couldn’t tell me if it contained animal by products (particularly pork). My doctor did convince me to take the pneumonia vaccine though. Otherwise, I have opted to keep my immune system boosted.
4. If they are so unsure of WTH is going on with COVID-19 (how many times have we gotten new and sometimes conflicting information?), how accurate are they going to be when it comes to creating a vaccine?
And finally...this is why people of color are leery. There’s a saying that history repeats itself..and often that’s true. People simply are not trusting the vaccine is really for "the good".
http://www.history.com/news/the-inf...hen there was no known treatment for syphilis.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
At this point Graham, I'm leery of a vaccine as are many people of color. I also know young people still don’t believe they can get this disease. My chance encounter with a young man at the P.O. today is a good example. More on that later. I can’t say I’d recommend the vaccine to anyone at this point. My reasons are that:
1.Having been a Disease Intervention Specialist (aka Public Health Representative) for the state of N.J. and consulting with various doctors, nurses and health professionals for over 15 years, I know that even so called experts can miss something, misdiagnose something and mistreat something.
2. I also know that diseases mutate. For instance, we predicted over 22 years ago, that there would be an antibiotic resistant strain of gonorrhea. Sure enough, that came to be and I read it can literally be deadly. I know any man who has the classic symptoms of gonorrhea and can't get cured would wish he was dead. Chinese scientists have identified two different strains of the corona virus, one more deadly than the other.
https://www.latimes.com/science/sto...-say-second-coronavirus-strain-more-dangerous
3. The efficacy of vaccines and (ie: flu shots, etc.) cannot be guaranteed. And would the vaccine for one strain be effective on another? Notice they keep changing up the flu shots every year. One year I read it was only 40% effective. Another year I found out there were two different sets of the flu shot...one for seniors and one for others. I never have taken the shot, even when it's offered for free. Same with the shingles vaccine because they couldn’t tell me if it contained animal by products (particularly pork). My doctor did convince me to take the pneumonia vaccine though. Otherwise, I have opted to keep my immune system boosted.
4. If they are so unsure of WTH is going on with COVID-19 (how many times have we gotten new and sometimes conflicting information?), how accurate are they going to be when it comes to creating a vaccine?
And finally...this is why people of color are leery. There’s a saying that history repeats itself..and often that’s true. People simply are not trusting the vaccine is really for "the good".
http://www.history.com/news/the-infamous-40-year-tuskegee-study#:~:text=Jul 29, 2019. Known officially as the Tuskegee,when there was no known treatment for syphilis.
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I agree. I think they are rushing it. If I get it, I will be one of the last ones.
 
I absolutely would not volunteer and would have a fit if a family member did. I think using the prisoners on a volunteer basis is fine.
They are in such a rush to find a vaccine,which I understand,but pushing one through could give people such side effects down the line that risking getting the virus might be the lesser of two evils.
Maybe they should also concentrate on better treatments if one does come down with the virus.
At this point I wouldn't run out and get the vaccine even when one comes available.
I am in a position to stay home and be super careful during any type of virus or flu. I've never had a flu shot and have never gotten the flu. Half the time it misses the mark on effectiveness anyway.
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