Updates: CDC tells officials to be ready for vaccine by November

The latest ad campaign talks about making sure to get a flu shot to "Prevent hospitals from being overrun with both flu and Covid-19."
Yeah.....don't you know there is also a flu epidemic with packed waiting rooms right around the corner?
They just announced that "Every child will be required to get a flu shot before starting school this year."
 
DaveA said:
Yeah, that's how I felt when I took the polio and diphtheria shots. I was a kid for the diphtheria and I must have been bullied by someone - - -maybe my folks?
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With any luck, those who have matured past the tender childhood age will carefully weigh the odds before allowing themselves to be intimidated into doing something outside of their comfort zone.
 
It seems to me that a "cure" is being rushed in time to influence the upcoming elections. Personally, I won't trust any vaccine until it has been given to a major percentage of the population...Without a bunch of side effects. Staying close to home and wearing a mask is sometimes a PITA, but given all the nonsense surrounding this virus, and the past history of many of the drugs, such inconveniences are liveable, when considering the alternatives.
 
Don M. said:
It seems to me that a "cure" is being rushed in time to influence the upcoming elections. Personally, I won't trust any vaccine until it has been given to a major percentage of the population...Without a bunch of side effects. Staying close to home and wearing a mask is sometimes a PITA, but given all the nonsense surrounding this virus, and the past history of many of the drugs, such inconveniences are liveable, when considering the alternatives.
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My sentiment to a T.
 
Aunt Marg said:
My sentiment to a T.
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Mine, too.

Of course I want my old life back. We all do. But I will do my due diligence before rolling up my sleeve. Until comfortable with the safety and effectiveness of a Covid vaccine, I will continue with the quite bearable sacrifice of avoiding traveling, wearing a mask in public, and maintaining social distances.

Bruce Springsteen said in 1985, "Blind faith in your leaders, or in anything, will get you killed."
A 1986 quote from Ronald Reagan. He was the modern president most highly respected by modern Republicans, "Trust but verify."

Our current federal government and big pharma have not inspired my confidence. Quite the opposite.

Bruuuuce & Ronnie's snippets of advice apply well to this situation.
 
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win231 said:
The latest ad campaign talks about making sure to get a flu shot to "Prevent hospitals from being overrun with both flu and Covid-19."
Yeah.....don't you know there is also a flu epidemic with packed waiting rooms right around the corner?
They just announced that "Every child will be required to get a flu shot before starting school this year."
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From what I can find, Massachusetts is only state with this requirement. It doesn't appear to be a mandate in other states, but it may well be. Do you have links on this, @win231?
 
I still remember getting my shots when I entered the Marines. They never told us what they were for and no one asked. Don't you find that strange that no one asked what they were shooting into our arms?
 
DaveA said:
Yeah, that's how I felt when I took the polio and diphtheria shots. I was a kid for the diphtheria and I must have been bullied by someone - - -maybe my folks?
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I may have mentioned it before, but as a child my mother nearly died from diptheria because her father didn't believe in vaccines.. and a woman somewhat older than myself lost her mother to polio shortly before the vaccine was available.
When it comes to something as widespread and easily transmitted like covid, it should not be a matter of 'personal choice' unless individuals want to self-isolate permanently.
 
I took that Swine Flu shot back in 1976, I think. When I got home from having the shot, my wife tells me that 5 people have already died from it. I did OK, but I had the worse headache ever and to this day, I haven't had another one like that one.
 
StarSong said:
Wait for it. The CDC members who were pressured into making this announcement will be scratching their heads at how many Americans refuse the vaccination for months. If not longer.
The very name "Operation Warp Speed Vaccine" so clearly identifies the objective. Speed at the cost of safety and effectiveness.
My trust for the US federal government has sunk to less than zero, less than neutral. Agencies that were designed to be autonomous are puppets dancing on strings. Like the queen of hearts, any perceived slight or difference in opinions leads to the battle cry, "Off with their heads!"
Big pharma is just as bad, if not worse. Their commitment is to money, money, money.
My personal vaccination decision will be heavily influenced by responses by leaders outside of Washington. And I'm not the only one.
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Despite the leadership problems and the big pharma influence I am going to get the Covid vaccine, when available.
I've always gotten the annual flu shot, never any problems but I do see a lot of Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt about the flu vaccine(and others) being circulated on the internet.

I think that the internet itself is a greater danger for one's physical and mental health than any of the vaccines available.
 
Nathan said:
Despite the leadership problems and the big pharma influence I am going to get the Covid vaccine, when available.
I've always gotten the annual flu shot, never any problems but I do see a lot of Fear, Uncertainty and Doubt about the flu vaccine(and others) being circulated on the internet.

I think that the internet itself is a greater danger for one's physical and mental health than any of the vaccines available.
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This has nothing to do with the internet or other vaccines. My children were all vaccinated, my grands are vaccinated, and I am fully vaccinated, including annual flu shots.

My thoughts on a hurry-up Covid shot are based on the opinions of scientists, epidemiologists, doctors and vaccinologists who are not under Washington's thumb.

If you're comfortable getting a vaccine before the completion and full analysis of phase 3 trials, knock yourself out. I'm not.
 
StarSong said:
This has nothing to do with the internet or other vaccines. My children were all vaccinated, my grands are vaccinated, and I am fully vaccinated, including annual flu shots.

My thoughts on a hurry-up Covid shot are based on the opinions of scientists, epidemiologists, doctors and vaccinologists who are not under Washington's thumb.

If you're comfortable getting a vaccine before the completion and full analysis of phase 3 trials, knock yourself out. I'm not.
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While my comment was not intended to be critical of yours, you seem to have taken it as such. I never said that I was comfortable getting the vaccine "before the completion and full analysis of phase 3 trials", but when the vaccine IS available(after clinical trials) rest assured that I will "knock myself out" and go get vaccinated.
 
StarSong said:
Wait for it. The CDC members who were pressured into making this announcement will be scratching their heads at how many Americans refuse the vaccination for months. If not longer.

The very name "Operation Warp Speed Vaccine" so clearly identifies the objective. Speed at the cost of safety and effectiveness.

My trust for the US federal government has sunk to less than zero, less than neutral. Agencies that were designed to be autonomous are puppets dancing on strings. Like the queen of hearts, any perceived slight or difference in opinions leads to the battle cry, "Off with their heads!"

Big pharma is just as bad, if not worse. Their commitment is to money, money, money.

My personal vaccination decision will be heavily influenced by responses by leaders outside of Washington. And I'm not the only one.
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Very well said, Starsong
 
I'm a firm believer in vaccinations and will mask up and go get my flu shot next week. I've taken one each year for many years and have never had an adverse reaction nor have I had a serious case of the flu.

I seriously doubt there is a proven Covid vaccination for several years to come, if even then. This virus is a strange fish and trapping it won't be easy.

And when any positive mention of a vaccine sends the stock market wild, I have serious doubts about the stability of the economy. I feel it's like a house of cards and when this all shakes out, the 1%ers will have a few more $$$ in their coffers. Others? Who knows.
 

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