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Phoenix said:
They were made to kill. It's not okay.
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No it’s not ok that people use them recklessly and kill others but that’s what happens when a dangerous weapon meets opportunity.

There are people with mental disorders and there are people with anger issues who get access to guns or even own them and bad things happen.

I’m not a gun supporter in the least but I don’t wish to discuss the politics behind the obvious gun problem. It’s not a torch I wish to carry.

It appears that what your brother has done , haunts you.
 

Keesha said:
No it’s not ok that people use them recklessly and kill others but that’s what happens when a dangerous weapon meets opportunity.

There are people with mental disorders and there are people with anger issues who get access to guns or even own them and bad things happen.

I’m not a gun supporter in the least but I don’t wish to discuss the politics behind the obvious gun problem. It’s not a torch I wish to carry.

It appears that what your brother has done , haunts you.
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No, it doesn't haunt me. I worked it out in the last 40 years. The writing of the books did that and working on my inner self did that. But it did change everything about my life. Everything. If you want to know more about where I am with it now, you can go to the article. It's all explained there.

KimIn Wis said:
Kesha didn't say it was "ok", ??
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I know she didn't. She's a good soul who understands.
 

Phoenix said:
I blame my brother. Don't tell me how it is, when you have no idea what happened or why. After the fact he said he thought about burning down their houses or shooting them. He chose shooting them with he deer hunting rifle, a .30-06 Browning Semi Automatic. I also know what led to this. They were innocent people, all four of them. If you want to know the truth about what happened here's the link to my article about it. The Other Side of Murder I've also written a couple of books about it. The one currently in print is more comprehensive than the first one. The title is different from the one listed in the article. I changed it because I was contacted by the show Evil Lives Here. They were propagating hate. That's the last thing we need in this violent world.
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Re-read your post #145. You clearly blame the gun. The incident you refer to is indeed tragic - as any murder is, but the fault lies with the person who committed the crime; not an inanimate object that has no will of its own.
 
OneEyedDiva said:
Six sides? Lets take mobs out of it. I said nothing about mobs. You know what they say "Don't bring a knife to a gunfight". But lets take knives out of it. As my husband used to say..."that's not what we're talking about right now". I don't like guns...period. Obviously guns don't fire by themselves. Here's the real history. The way White people are treated when they defend their homes is vastly different from the way Black people are treated for doing the same thing. But wait...let's take race out of it. Too many people who have insisted on having guns in their homes have not had the good sense to put them away safely...thus the many children who are killed by gun accidents. Then there's the (adult) "I didn't mean to kill him/her...the gun went off by accident!". An elderly man walks into a hospital and kills his wife who's a patient. He didn't stab her...he shot her. You can kill someone from a distance with a gun. You can't do that with a knife unless you are a really good knife thrower. And how did a teenager get to walk around with a AR-15 rifle then kill 2 protesters. There's so many guns out there that any and everybody, no matter their mental state, can get their hands on one. That was my point.

My father had a gun when I lived at home. My mother said he used to go out in the back yard and shoot it every 4th of July. Never got why though. But I never allowed guns in my home and I broke it off with a boyfriend who brought one here and decided to play around with it in front of me and my little boy. I asked him to leave and told him never to come back. I don't even remember if it was loaded...didn't care! I don't see a reason to change my mind. What good would it do me? I'm certainly not going to go out and buy one. I also see no reason to try to convince you to think as I do about guns. In this case, I respectfully say..we can agree to disagree.
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I want to thank you for your reply. You are a gracious and lovely lady! Yes, we disagree but you didn't attack me, call me names or make me feel stupid about my opinions. I thank you for that!
i grew up in the wildest ole cowtown in the West, my Grandma carried a double barrel shotgun around, and I married into law enforcement. This might have something to do with my affinity for the smell of leather revolvers and horse hay.
I don't LOVE guns. I respect guns and respect the Constitution. Maybe that's not exactly true. The old Colt 45 has such design, balance, shape.( especially the Peacemaker) It really is beautiful! and the old Winchester rifles, I'm getting off track.
The purpose of my post is to make people AWARE that once the 2nd amendment goes, THE FIRST AMENDMENT, the freedom of speech will go too! Hopefully this won't happen in our lifetime, but it could. The Constitution could hang by a thread!
Yes I believe in law enforcement and in the right of people to defend themselves and you don't, and that's fine.
We can still be friends because I respect your opinions. You're cool!
 
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Gaer said:
I want to thank you for your reply. You are a gracious and lovely lady! Yes, we disagree but you didn't attack me, call me names or make me feel stupid about my opinions. I thank you for that!
I don't LOVE guns. I respect guns and respect the Constitution. Maybe that's not exactly true. The old Colt 45 has such design, balance, shape.( especially the Peacemaker) It really is beautiful! and the old Winchester rifles, I'm getting off track.
The purpose of my post is to make people AWARE that once the 2nd amendment goes, THE FIRST AMENDMENT, the freedom of speech will go too! Hopefully this won't happen in our lifetime, but it could. The Constitution could hang by a thread!
Yes I believe in law enforcement and in the right of people to defend themselves and you don't, and that's fine.
We can still be friends because I respect your opinions. You're cool!
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I think you are very cool as well Gaer. Thank you for your response and for the compliments. Let's be clear, I do believe that people have the right to defend themselves if their actions are indeed justifiable. I've seen cases where they were not. There also needs to be a removal of the double standard that exists (as I previously pointed out) when such defensive actions take place.
 
911 said:
Yeah, that’ll do it.
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I have no problem whatsoever with anyone who doesn't like guns - regardless of their reason. They're not for everybody.
I have a big problem with someone who blames guns for crimes instead of the real causes.
 
win231 said:
I have no problem whatsoever with anyone who doesn't like guns - regardless of their reason. They're not for everybody.
I have a big problem with someone who blames guns for crimes instead of the real causes.
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I think there is some confusion going on. Phoenix’s brother killed people using a gun. She doesn’t blame the gun (she does blame her brother), but just doesn’t like guns. I think it’s understandable as to why she has these feelings.
 
911 said:
I think there is some confusion going on. Phoenix’s brother killed people using a gun. She doesn’t blame the gun (she does blame her brother), but just doesn’t like guns. I think it’s understandable as to why she has these feelings.
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"She Doesn't blame the gun?
Quote: "Since my brother murdered people with his I am intolerant of guns."
Couldn't be any clearer.
 
win231 said:
Ya know, if you don't like to hear the truth, no one is forcing you to read it.
And I have the same right to my opinion as you do.
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I’m sorry win. Yes! You’re right.
Go ahead and pick on the lady who’s brother murdered 4 of her neighbours. 🙄🤐
 
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