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@RadishRose, what do you mean by undercurrent going on?
@tbeltrans, I apologize I should have spelled it out instead of using acronyms. HVM in this discussion means High Value Male.
I am not sure. I guess, a kind of vibe that feels like beyond "good buddy". I can't spell it out for you.@RadishRose, what do you mean by undercurrent going on?
I never believed men really want to buddy up with women. It's not natural to them. If they want a pal to hang around with, they prefer another male to talk sports with, compare sexual conquests with, spit on the sidewalk with and sit in the bar with; to either to pick up women, watch the game or scratch themselves.
If you sleep with a so called friend, that's classified as FWB (friend with benefits).So now we twist the subject all around as threads in forums often do, and get:
Have you ever had sex with a platonic friend?
Hmmmmmm...
Of course, a quick recovery would be "So, how is the weather in your area today?".
Tony
If you sleep with a so called friend, that's classified as FWB (friend with benefits).
No, I do not sleep with platonic friends and plan to keep it that way. Sad to say, the men I meet now outright tell me they already have a lot of friends. They want a lover for possible marriage.
Yes, I did admit to generalizing and you are a grand exception.I'm one of the exceptions to your experience. I relate much more to women than I do to men. I don't care about sports, don't kiss and tell, don't like to spit, don't really enjoy sitting in a bar, find conquest tales in poor taste, couldn't care less about most games and try to scratch only in private. I find that the women I've known tend to be more interested in conversations about things that I find interesting (introspection, self understanding, art, music, food, travel, etc...) than the men I've known.
I'm one of the exceptions to your experience. I relate much more to women than I do to men. I don't care about sports, don't kiss and tell, don't like to spit, don't really enjoy sitting in a bar, find conquest tales in poor taste, couldn't care less about most games and try to scratch only in private. I find that the women I've known tend to be more interested in conversations about things that I find interesting (introspection, self understanding, art, music, food, travel, etc...) than the men I've known.
I'm not sure I understand your "what if" @AnnieA , I am sorry. Maybe I do, but surely I am wrong. My homosexual guy friends (albeit fewer these days) are in no way even curious about women other than in a platonic sense.
RadishRose said:If they're heterosexual, probably not. They've always seemed to have wanted something more.
I have had good platonic friendships with men...after we'd broken up.
Oh, I see. They were called an incredibly rude name.Part of post above I responded to:
Abbreviated the quote from your post too much I think in my "what if" response. I meant that with most heterosexual guys, at some point in the friendship I've wondered about more ..."what if" we took that next step.
Wasn't at all talking about my bisexual (best friend who is leans strongly towards men) or my homosexual friends. I've always thought women who try to elicit interest from them are the same type that would try for a reaction from a Catholic priest or an obviously happily married man. A challenge to prove they can do it that's maybe rooted in narcissism or low self worth.
Oh, I see. They were called an incredibly rude name.![]()
I never believed men really want to buddy up with women. It's not natural to them. If they want a pal to hang around with, they prefer another male to talk sports with, compare sexual conquests with, spit on the sidewalk with and sit in the bar with; to either to pick up women, watch the game or scratch themselves.

I remember when you wrote this.Have you experienced platonic friendship with the opposite sex?
This thread reminds me of something I writ in my early tenure here;
Wimin
The most mysterious beings of our planet
I found out long ago, about sixty years or so, that gaining favor with the finer gender of our specie is not necessarily in my best interest.
Whole different frequency
Wired different
Fiber optic vs 9 gauge single conductor
Fascinating, mystical, attractive, you bet
Sensitivities Iād never remotely considered
But, hanging with a group of ladies?
Canāt
Mentally; exhausting
Socially; this ogre doesnāt stand a chance
Spiritually; beyond any reach I may have thought I had
Physically; like looking into the sun, can go blind if obsessing too long
Gaining favor?
Whimsical touches
Nothing of depth
Any more than that and I find myself precariously dangling off a mental precipice
I can do one, maybe two per sitting
and that is mostly because they sense my discomfort to the point of putting forth effort to discuss what Iām interested in
Iāve learned to pick up on this and placate for a bit, then find a way to excuse myself
I donāt avoid ladies, but have learned not to seek them out
Itās what shops are for
Iāve been fortunate
My lady has put up with me for half a century
When I become too much and I (for some unknown reason) anger her,
I found placing my calloused hand on the small of her back will still cause her to flinch
ā¦.and she begrudgingly forgives me
We have had this tryst, this romance that has yet to fade
Sheās plenty for me
Forever
So, here I remain
Baffled, yet attracted at the mysteries, complexities
A sentry
A defender
A protector
A willing grunt
Keeping the fire
best I can
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