Wales is not the place to be...

Furryanimal

Furryanimal

Y gath o Gymru
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I am Welsh...but i wish i wasn’t!
It has just been announced that from Friday evening until November 9th Wales will be in a complete lockdown.We have all been told to stay at home and are only allowed out to shop and access medical services.Most businesses will be closed again.Not that some have ever reopened.I don’t think anyone believes this will just be for two weeks.
Not only that,our bully of a leader has made it clear that he will not allow life to return to normal until there is a vaccine.There is little chance of that and you won’t get me having one until i’m sure it is safe.
So there we have it.If you live in Wales you are condemned to just exist forevermore.
I don’t want to live here anymore.Time to sell up and move to England.But who the hell would be mad enough to buy a house here?
I need to live....but it is clear Community rugby will never return here,concert venues will not reopen and i see little chance of being allowed to return to watching cricket come April.Everything i live for gone.
The only thing that has to be answered is how soon i end up in the Psychiatric ward.I am heading there at a rate of knots.
We cannot be expected to live like this.
 

I don't envy the situation you're in, Furry.

In the news here in Canada (Winnipeg, Manitoba), a few Provinces away from where we reside, has tightened restrictions. No more than 5 people in a gathering, stand-alone nightclubs, bars and beverage rooms (which are attached to hotels) are now closed, as are casinos, video lottery lounges and bingo halls. Entertainment facilities with live entertainment are also closed.

Restaurants, lounges, retail locations, museums and libraries are limited to 50% capacity, and at restaurants, groups at tables will also be limited to five people and physical distancing must be in place.

Indoor businesses will also be required to keep logs of people who visit in order to help with contact tracing, including theatres, museums, galleries, libraries and fitness facilities.

The number of spectators at after-school activities and all sporting events will be reduced to 25% of a site's capacity.

All of the tightening of restrictions are a direct result of people in their 20's (NOT LISTENING AND PRACTICING SAFE MEASURES).
 
Yes, you can and will. I wish there were stronger rules here. Over 200,000 dead, perhaps you would like to live here, go out as usual, and play Russian roulette every time you leave the house. I see our children playing on playgrounds-no masks.

I see groups of high schoolers, young adults, standing on the corner, masks around their necks, after going to the store at lunch break. I see people refusing to wear masks although masks are required.

I see super spreader events, hospitals overcrowded, and people dying. Yes, move here and live free. Or, put your big boy pants on and deal with it. Time for tough love @Furryanimal.
 

In addition, Utah is being discussed on CNN due to the increase of the virus here. We are at 15% positive rate. They are blaming it on the schools, of course. Children will not keep masks on. They give it to their parents and grandparents. You think you will go crazy, staying home.

Imagine a generation of children and the guilt some of them will carry for killing their parents and grandparents. Mental health professionals will make a ton of money.

Edited: I would move my entire family to Wales if I had the money.
 
Aneeda72 said:
In addition, Utah is being discussed on CNN due to the increase of the virus here. We are at 15% positive rate. They are blaming it on the schools, of course. Children will not keep masks on. They give it to their parents and grandparents. You think you will go crazy, staying home.

Imagine a generation of children and the guilt some of them will carry for killing their parents and grandparents. Mental health professionals will make a ton of money.
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Here in British Columbia Canada, middle and secondary school students and staff are required to wear masks in high traffic areas like hallways. All staff and students in B.C. middle and secondary schools are required to wear masks in areas where physical distancing cannot be maintained, yet whenever I drive-by school yards in passing, I see upwards of 100 students outside huddled around together, and none are wearing masks.

All of the lockdowns, closures, and tighter restrictions are going to continue to plague society so long as people choose to buck the system and make up their own rules and do their own thing.
 
Aneeda72 said:
In addition, Utah is being discussed on CNN due to the increase of the virus here. We are at 15% positive rate. They are blaming it on the schools, of course. Children will not keep masks on. They give it to their parents and grandparents. You think you will go crazy, staying home.
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ADULTS won't keep masks on, can't imagine what makes school admins and parents think kids will do so. Teenagers and people in their early 20s are hard wired to be risk-takers. We all know this. Why we are pretending otherwise baffles me.

Increased virus rates following schools and colleges reopenings was utterly predictable.

@Furryanimal, have the virus rates spiked in Wales?
 
Aneeda72 said:
In addition, Utah is being discussed on CNN due to the increase of the virus here. We are at 15% positive rate. They are blaming it on the schools, of course. Children will not keep masks on. They give it to their parents and grandparents. You think you will go crazy, staying home.

Imagine a generation of children and the guilt some of them will carry for killing their parents and grandparents. Mental health professionals will make a ton of money.

Edited: I would move my entire family to Wales if I had the money.
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Expel those students then! Send them home!

You don't want to listen, go home!

I am so sick and tired of watching the namby-pamby ways of society nowadays, all of the kowtowing going on to accommodate people who are bent on doing their own thing.
 
Aunt Marg said:
I don't envy the situation you're in, Furry.

In the news here in Canada (Winnipeg, Manitoba), a few Provinces away from where we reside, has tightened restrictions. No more than 5 people in a gathering, stand-alone nightclubs, bars and beverage rooms (which are attached to hotels) are now closed, as are casinos, video lottery lounges and bingo halls. Entertainment facilities with live entertainment are also closed.

Restaurants, lounges, retail locations, museums and libraries are limited to 50% capacity, and at restaurants, groups at tables will also be limited to five people and physical distancing must be in place.

Indoor businesses will also be required to keep logs of people who visit in order to help with contact tracing, including theatres, museums, galleries, libraries and fitness facilities.

The number of spectators at after-school activities and all sporting events will be reduced to 25% of a site's capacity.

All of the tightening of restrictions are a direct result of people in their 20's (NOT LISTENING AND PRACTICING SAFE MEASURES).
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We have been told we are not to meet anyone,including outdoors,who is not from our household.I am my household!And having dug a bit deeper we are even being discouraged from going shopping!But bizarrely schools are remaining open!
 
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Furryanimal said:
We have been told we are not to meet anyone,including outdoors,who is from our household.I am my household!And having dug a bit deeper we are even being discouraged from going shopping!But bizarrely schools are remaining open!
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I'm lost for words.

One thing is for certain, the more people that choose to buck the system and make up their own rules, the longer and more intense this whole affair will be.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Superglue the masks on, they won’t rip them off. Won’t risk Messing up their pretty faces 🤣
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I like my solution, send them home, and at the end of the school year instead of joining their class in graduating, or moving onto the next grade, they can stick around and repeat.

Maybe then those who fall into the category of the self-serving generation will get the drift.
 
Furryanimal said:
We have been told we not to meet anyone,including outdoors,who is from our household.I am my household!And having dug a bit deeper we are even being discouraged from going shopping!
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StarSong said:
ADULTS won't keep masks on, can't imagine what makes school admins and parents think kids will do so. Teenagers and people in their early 20s are hard wired to be risk-takers. We all know this. Why we are pretending otherwise baffles me.

Increased virus rates following schools and colleges reopenings was utterly predictable.

@Furryanimal, have the virus rates spiked in Wales?
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yes-but they are no worse than other parts of Britain which are not being subjected to such draconian measures and it is better than some European countries which aren’t either.We are not allowed to discuss politics here but there is a feeling we are being treated like this because of political points scoring.Each country of UK is responsible for it’s own health policies as a result of devolved powers.
 
Furryanimal said:
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yes-but they are no worse than other parts of Britain which are not being subjected to such draconian measures and it is better than some European countries which aren’t either.We are not allowed to discuss politics here but there is a feeling we are being treated like this because of political points scoring.Each country of UK is responsible for it’s own health policies as a result of devolved powers.
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I just saw on CNN England is considering a new lockdown, better not move there. USA is your only hope.
 
Aneeda72 said:
This will never happen! Imagine the lawsuits.
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No, I can't imagine lawsuits, and in fact, any lawsuits filed by people not abiding by stringent criteria and guidelines set out by governing parties related to Covid-19, those lawsuits should be reversed, and a lawsuit brought down on those who aren't living up to the health and safety measures implemented.

That would quickly quash all of this foolish lawsuit talk.

It's simple, we are experiencing a pandemic world-wide at this time, do as you're told.
 
Aneeda72 said:
Yes, you can and will. I wish there were stronger rules here. Over 200,000 dead, perhaps you would like to live here, go out as usual, and play Russian roulette every time you leave the house. I see our children playing on playgrounds-no masks.

I see groups of high schoolers, young adults, standing on the corner, masks around their necks, after going to the store at lunch break. I see people refusing to wear masks although masks are required.

I see super spreader events, hospitals overcrowded, and people dying. Yes, move here and live free. Or, put your big boy pants on and deal with it. Time for tough love @Furryanimal.
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Well, what is clear here is that we are going around in circles.Lockdown does not work unless it is utterly draconian and permanent.Two weeks will not change anything.And having been told we will not be allowed to return to normal until there is a vaccine that means there is no hope.Because there may never be one.And less than twenty miles from me-in England-i could live much more normally than here.Having had no social contact since March-apart from two days when lockdown eased-i am desperate for some normality.Living alone through this is taking it’s taking it’s toll on me.I fear we will still be where we are now this time next year.Tough love?I have followed all the rules.That includes wearing a mask despite the fact my glasses fog up.Most people have.But Wales has had tougher rules all the way through.And it has got us nowhere.
 
Aneeda72 said:
I just saw on CNN England is considering a new lockdown, better not move there. USA is your only hope.
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Boris,though,is desperate not to do that.My problem is that an island should have a national strategy.We are not so big that we can have three different sets of rules.As i keep saying the virus does not change in nature at an arbitary border
 
Furryanimal said:
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yes-but they are no worse than other parts of Britain which are not being subjected to such draconian measures and it is better than some European countries which aren’t either.We are not allowed to discuss politics here but there is a feeling we are being treated like this because of political points scoring.Each country of UK is responsible for it’s own health policies as a result of devolved powers.
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I missed a crucial’not’ out!Corrected on the original post!
 
No @Aneeda72. The Herd, where we take our chances. If you die or get critically ill, so be it. I believe in order for it to work 60% of the population must be infected. Business as usual.
 
Aunt Marg said:
I like my solution, send them home, and at the end of the school year instead of joining their class in graduating, or moving onto the next grade, they can stick around and repeat.
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We are talking about children. Draconian punishments mystify me because they're so, well, punitive. Not helpful, not edifying, not a life lesson. Punitive.

Why would anyone punish children so drastically for being the immature creatures we know them to be? After all, the adults in charge have presumably had years of child development education plus hands-on experience. They KNOW children are impulsive, ego-centric and have difficulty with delayed gratification.

We teach our children not to cross the street without looking both ways, but because we know that chasing after a ball may distract them from that lesson, we have reduced speed limits in school zones and crossing guards at the intersections. We tell them that medicine isn't candy, but the law nevertheless requires child-proof caps. We tell them to say away from the pool but fence around it just in case. We tell them to stay away from alcohol but the long arm of the law much more heavily punishes the clerk and store who sells it to minors.

Why? Because adults know better.

Bottom line, if schools cannot be safely opened, then they should remain closed. If reopenings fail, those failures belong to the administrators, not the students.
 


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