Corona virus potential side effects.

I forget where I got this but I heard or read that they have injected 1000s of test subjects. One of the companies tested this on 44000 people. So far with no bad incidents. I don't see anything in the list of ingredients that I can't take to my knowledge so I think if they offer it to us at work I'm gonna try it just to see. I just can't afford not to try. Especially with my health issues. If I find out I can't take it and it doesn't kill me then I just won't be able to.
 

Aunt Marg said:
What about long-term?

A year from now? Two years from now?

I don't buy into the short list.
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Obviously no-one has the answer to that because none of the vaccines have yet been around that long. The only way to know for sure is to refuse to be vaccinated until enough of the population, over time, has had the shot and we get to see if there are any long term effects.

This isn't directed at you at all @Aunt Marg just so we're clear....but I've seen/heard some very irate folks demanding answers to the potential for long term damage/side effects etc. It's an unfair demand, becuause there just hasn't been enough TIME yet to evaluate effects other than in the short term. There's no way, from what I understand reading the scientific information, to factually determine long term side effects IN A LAB SETTING without allowing the passing of time to present hereto unforeseen symptoms and effects. Any other approach is simply theoretical.

I do know that way this vaccine works is pretty much the same as the flu vaccine and other viral vaccines work in terms of effectiveness, and also in terms of the actual making of the virus. Isolating the spike proteins in the Covid virus and surrounding that with lipids before injection into the body allows the human physiology to create antibodies, which is the basic mechanism of any vaccine that's been created to innoculate against the virus it's targeted to kill, like Flu.
 
Ronni said:
Yup. That’s the way vaccines work. They create a much less virulent (hopefully anyway) virus in the body so that the body’s immune response is engaged to fight it off and so produce antibodies
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Don't want to argue, as everyone is different, but as the child of a military family, I have had numerous vaccinations and the only one which made us feel ill was the yellow fever jab.
 
I had a fairly strong reaction to the first of the two-part shingles vaccine. Because I was very clear that shingles is a condition to be avoided even if it means a few days of feeling ill, when it was time to do so I went back for the second shot. Almost no reaction other than a sore arm for a day.

My friends in the cyber and real worlds who've had Covid are saying it's no joke. My 36 year old nephew has spent the last two weeks in an ICU and is receiving dialysis. He was a healthy young man three weeks ago.

I'll probably be eligible for a vaccine this spring and expect to take it.
 
StarSong said:
I had a fairly strong reaction to the first of the two-part shingles vaccine. Because I was very clear that shingles is a condition to be avoided even if it means a few days of feeling ill, when it was time to do so I went back for the second shot. Almost no reaction other than a sore arm for a day.

My friends in the cyber and real worlds who've had Covid are saying it's no joke. My 36 year old nephew has spent the last two weeks in an ICU and is receiving dialysis. He was a healthy young man three weeks ago.

I'll probably be eligible for a vaccine this spring and expect to take it.
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Your nephew is receiving dialysis? Did he have any issues before COVID-19 that required him to have dialysis?
 
StarSong said:
I had a fairly strong reaction to the first of the two-part shingles vaccine. Because I was very clear that shingles is a condition to be avoided even if it means a few days of feeling ill, when it was time to do so I went back for the second shot. Almost no reaction other than a sore arm for a day.

My friends in the cyber and real worlds who've had Covid are saying it's no joke. My 36 year old nephew has spent the last two weeks in an ICU and is receiving dialysis. He was a healthy young man three weeks ago.

I'll probably be eligible for a vaccine this spring and expect to take it.
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Exactly, I am whining over that singles vaccine, arm is still killing me, still sick, and i am taking the second dose in three months. My mother had shingles, and shingles is no joke. You do not want it. My son, healthy except for the heart surgery, hikes all over, can barely walk to the bathroom at this point.

Covid is NO JOKE. I am getting the vaccine. As for long term side effects, I’m 74, how long term am I? 😂
 
Taking the vaccine will be a bit of a gamble. However, the alternatives....avoiding people, wearing a mask forever, etc....are also a major nuisance. I'm sure there will be those with some fairly major side effects....just like virtually Any other Drug....but the advantages of getting the vaccine probably far outweigh the risks. Unfortunately, with the way this virus is spreading, we don't have the option of waiting years to insure its safety.
I doubt that the vaccine will be available in our area until Spring, so by then, millions should have received the shot, and if there aren't any major issues showing up, we will probably get the shot, and hopefully begin to return to a more normal routine.
 
Don M. said:
Taking the vaccine will be a bit of a gamble. However, the alternatives....avoiding people, wearing a mask forever, etc....are also a major nuisance. I'm sure there will be those with some fairly major side effects....just like virtually Any other Drug....but the advantages of getting the vaccine probably far outweigh the risks. Unfortunately, with the way this virus is spreading, we don't have the option of waiting years to insure its safety.
I doubt that the vaccine will be available in our area until Spring, so by then, millions should have received the shot, and if there aren't any major issues showing up, we will probably get the shot, and hopefully begin to return to a more normal routine.
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I don’t see wearing a mask as a major nuisance, I thought I would, but I don't. It’s easier during the winter, during the summer with a 100 degrees weather, I would get too hot. At first I thought I would wait to get the vaccine but now I am going to get it.

I believe my time is limited and I find there are some things i want to do before I move on. Seeing my daughter and her family tops the list. Holding my now adopted by her grandparents great granddaughter once again is worth any price. As soon as I get the double dose of vaccine and the last 7 day wait is over, I am off to TEXAS. 😂
 
Rosemarie said:
Don't want to argue, as everyone is different, but as the child of a military family, I have had numerous vaccinations and the only one which made us feel ill was the yellow fever jab.
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So true Rosemarie...in the late 90's hub and I went to Egypt and got the plague shot & yellow fever. Wow...couldn't lift either arm above my head for a week or so. You know they often list "malaise" as a possible side effect on vaccines? For the first time I knew what it was when getting these overseas shots...LOL.
 
oldman said:
I’m just being curious. This is unusual, isn’t it? What causes the kidneys to need help? Does COVID-19 affect the kidneys?
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Not answering for StarSong but the Covid virus attacks most of your organs, especially the lungs. My son is worried about his lungs as he is a hiker and climbs to the top of mountains. He’s afraid of long term lung damage which will prevent his hiking. I’m afraid he will still try and hike besides lung problems.

However, due to the Covid fatigue, which makes it hard for him to reach the bathroom, he won’t be hiking anytime soon.
 
Ronni said:
Obviously no-one has the answer to that because none of the vaccines have yet been around that long. The only way to know for sure is to refuse to be vaccinated until enough of the population, over time, has had the shot and we get to see if there are any long term effects.

This isn't directed at you at all @Aunt Marg just so we're clear....but I've seen/heard some very irate folks demanding answers to the potential for long term damage/side effects etc. It's an unfair demand, becuause there just hasn't been enough TIME yet to evaluate effects other than in the short term. There's no way, from what I understand reading the scientific information, to factually determine long term side effects IN A LAB SETTING without allowing the passing of time to present hereto unforeseen symptoms and effects. Any other approach is simply theoretical.

I do know that way this vaccine works is pretty much the same as the flu vaccine and other viral vaccines work in terms of effectiveness, and also in terms of the actual making of the virus. Isolating the spike proteins in the Covid virus and surrounding that with lipids before injection into the body allows the human physiology to create antibodies, which is the basic mechanism of any vaccine that's been created to innoculate against the virus it's targeted to kill, like Flu.
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Great post, Ronni.

I heard on the news last night that the UK was the first to start giving Covid vaccines, and I couldn't help think about the comments from one such individual interviewed, where he proudly stated that they (as in scientists I'm assuming) took what should have been 12-14 years in development time and crushed it into 10 months to produce the drug.

Then this morning I listened to a report out of Russia where their Sputnik V vaccine is still in the midst of trials to check that it's safe and actually works.

I can think of a better example of lighting a bunch of fires and then telling people to jump in.
 
oldman said:
Your nephew is receiving dialysis? Did he have any issues before COVID-19 that required him to have dialysis?
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Liberty said:
Covid affects the kidneys big time, almost 50% with 1/5th needing dialysis:

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20200914/covid-19-takes-heavy-toll-on-kidneys
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Aneeda72 said:
Not answering for StarSong but the Covid virus attacks most of your organs, especially the lungs. My son is worried about his lungs as he is a hiker and climbs to the top of mountains. He’s afraid of long term lung damage which will prevent his hiking. I’m afraid he will still try and hike besides lung problems.

However, due to the Covid fatigue, which makes it hard for him to reach the bathroom, he won’t be hiking anytime soon.
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No worries on answering for me. Thanks for sharing your info.

My nephew is so weak and fatigued that he can't get from the hospital bed to the chair without several people assisting, despite no longer testing positive for the virus.
 
isn't it true that the vaccine from different manufacturers have different side effects? It would be nice is the vaccine with the least side effects could be given to the older Americans, who might find the effects more difficult to endure.
 

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