Bending the Vaccine Rules!

Mike

Mike

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The vaccine for Covid-19 arrived around a month ago
and they started giving it to people according to age
and position, ie: Health Workers and the Elderly.

At the time it was stated by the manufacturers that we
were required to have a second dose after 3 weeks to
get the best results.

So far so good.

Then our Government decided that the distribution and
inoculations were taking too long, so last year, on 31st
December, they put out a statement saying that we don't
need a second one at 3 weeks because the vaccine is so
good that it doesn't weaken so quickly and that 3 months
is a more realistic time for a repeat!!!!

Sounds political to me to get the numbers vaccinated up
quickly, then maybe all the earlier mistakes etc., will be
forgotten about.

I notice that the manufacturers are keeping quiet about
this edict, I suppose if they go against the rulers they won't
get any fresh orders.

Mike.
 

Some GPs are 'rebelling' and will vaccinate those who have had the first jab with the second jab in the original 12 weeks stated. They argue that cancelling appointments would be a breach of trust.
Add to that the chaos it would cause for those who have made arrangements for their appointments.
 

I think that the time between was initially 3 weeks Treacle,
they have changed it to 3 Months.

Mike.
 
It could be political and it could be that they are learning more about the vaccine as they go along.

I know that with the two-shot shingles vaccine called Shingrix the window between the first and second shot is 2-6 months.

I would keep up with the basic mask-wearing, handwashing, social distancing, etc...

Try to tune out the noise and accept what is being offered in your area.

We'll get through this!

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After this statement by Pfizer how can it be effective unless its second dose is given in 3 weeks?
If we're to "trust the science", then we can't trust this vaccine if second dose isn't being given in 3 weeks.

"Pfizer confirmed in response that although some protection appears to begin as early as 12 days after the first dose, two doses of the vaccine — separated by three weeks — is the only regimen that proved to be 95% effective in Phase 3 trials."

https://www.axios.com/pfizer-single...referrer=https://www.google.com&_tf=From %1$s
 
The scientists haven't said a word, Becky, all the
hot air comes from politicians who in my opinion
don't know very much but that they feel as if they
can do what they like, many do a course at university
and come out as politicians in their own minds.

Mike.
 
Mike said:
The scientists haven't said a word, Becky, all the
hot air comes from politicians who in my opinion
don't know very much but that they feel as if they
can do what they like, many do a course at university
and come out as politicians in their own
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The scientists did say, "two doses of the vaccine — separated by three weeks — is the only regimen that proved to be 95% effective in Phase 3 trials."

That's the one to trust, not the politicians.

Even though I do question the science at times regarding this vaccine, they have studied the time frame for its effectiveness and know waiting longer then 3 weeks for second shot lessens it effectiveness.
 
I think he was talking about the Oxford vaccine, but that wonderful nurse guy on YouTube said that although the initial dose wasn't enough to keep people from getting sick, one dose was enough that people didn't get so sick that they needed to be hospitalized, so he thought the plan of giving a first dose to as many people as possible would be more beneficial (in a limited vaccine situation) than some people having the ideal two-dose regimen and others having none at all.
 
My age 80+ friend in a residence in NY state got his first one the Sat before Xmas, 12/19, and was expecting to get the second about mid Jan. No discomfort except “usual” arm soreness after any shot. (We have been friends since early 1950s.)
I’m on the list for when they get to the “over 75s”. I’m well over 75 but still live on my own.
 
The 3 weeks between shots for good immunisation came
with the Pfizer vaccine, I haven't heard what the Oxford one
suggests, but it will probably be the same to prevent confusion.

The Government admitted in the newspaper today that the delay
has been prompted by the desire to inoculate more people.

Initially they said it was because of a shortage of supplies, this got
the companies concerned with the design and manufacture to hit
back saying that it was lack of financial support and manufacturing
which is all down to the Government.

Another screw up I fear, but doctors are also rebelling at the delaying
tactics, they say that the patient comes before any politician and that
vaccines have to be administered as directed by the maker.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ernment-warnings-months-long-supply-gaps.html

Mike.
 

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