70 to 100 Car Accident!!! WARNING!!!!!

"WHAT?????? what are they suppose to drive on?????... The national road system is already there...
How about we keep the amateur drivers off it and on the back roads."

I agree here !

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What the heck is an amateur driver? Drivers under age 20? 25? Drivers with less than 100 hours of driving experience?
How many of the drivers involved in that accident do you suppose fit the criteria for "amateur"?

Construction of designated truck routes was underway decades ago, but after several were completed someone decided "Nah! They're too expensive." Not worth a few hundred-thousand lives annually.
 

what are they suppose to drive on? What I said - designated truck routes. As there too few of those, how 'bout we keep amateur truck drivers off the freeways? That wouldn't solve the problem, either, but it's a solution that's as helpful and well-thought-out as yours.
That might sound ideal but it’s totally unrealistic. Who is going to pay for separate transport truck highways and maintain them, plus weather conditions will still affect those roads also.
Keep amateur drivers off highway? No 20 to 25 years old drivers allowed? Yep! Again, it might sound ideal but it’s not realistic to expect amateur drivers to go through the back roads and local traffic. You’d need some way of spotting amateur drivers and they aren’t all young drivers.

Note: not meaning to pick on you. I just find your idea very unrealistic.
 
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The company I worked for would have us report to their headquarters in the summer about every 2 or 3 years and have us use their skid pad. The skid pad was about the size of a football field or a little larger. The surface was a coating of teflon. They would wet this skid pad with water using fire hoses. This created a surface slick like black ice. We would drive a car on it first then an 18 wheeler. Note: The 18 wheeler was rigged on both sides with a chain connected from the tractor to the trailer to prevent any damage to a jack knife, training purposes. Running down the driveway hitting the skid pad we were told to:
  • Put the vehicle in neutral if driving an automatic, push in the clutch if standard.
  • Pick a reference point to steer for and keep your eyes on it.
  • Brake very gently not locking the brakes.
  • You have more traction on a rolling tire than one that is locked up and not rolling.
Hitting black ice is no fun, especially driving a big truck. I had a few close calls but I remembered what they taught us on the skid pad and I managed to get out of it safely.
 
That might sound ideal but it’s totally unrealistic. Who is going to pay for separate transport truck highways and maintain them, plus weather conditions will still affect those roads also.
Keep amateur drivers off highway? No 20 to 25 years old drivers allowed? Yep! Again, it might sound ideal but it’s not realistic to expect amateur drivers to go through the back roads and local traffic. You’d need some way of spotting amateur drivers and they aren’t all young drivers.

Note: not meaning to pick on you. I just find your idea very unrealistic.
It wasn't my idea. I was responding to someone who suggested we keep amateur drivers off highways.
And his wasn't an actual suggestion, I don't think.
 
This thread is really scary. Especially the video. I just drove home during rush hour in the pouring rain and passed 4 serious accidents. Then I read this thread. So very sad, disturbing, and frightening...I think I'm going to have to move along and hang out in Hapiguy's "Heartwarming Animal Photos" and "Smiley Face Photos" thread.

Don't get me wrong, It's a good discussion but oh my...too much with images and all. It's a good thing we have so many choices here in the Senior Forums. Maybe I wont be feeling so sensitive tomorrow.

But thank you for alerting us Ken. Awareness is a good thing....just hard sometimes.
 
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What the heck is an amateur driver? Drivers under age 20? 25? Drivers with less than 100 hours of driving experience?
How many of the drivers involved in that accident do you suppose fit the criteria for "amateur"?

Construction of designated truck routes was underway decades ago, but after several were completed someone decided "Nah! They're too expensive." Not worth a few hundred-thousand lives annually
This thread is really scary. Especially the video. I just drove home during rush hour in the pouring rain and passed 4 serious accidents. Then I read this thread. So very sad, disturbing, and frightening...I think I'm going to have to move along and hang out in Hapiguy's "Heartwarming Animal Photos" thread.

Don't get me wrong, It's a good discussion but oh my...too much with images and all. It's a good thing we have so many choices here in the Senior Forums. Maybe I wont be feeling so sensitive tomorrow.

But thank you for alerting us Ken. Awareness is a good thing....just hard sometimes.
I’ve got to agree with you there Lara. We have choice in what threads to open and I need to use my free will more wisely, especially knowing how sensitive I am.

Thank you for the reminder to chose wisely.
I promised myself I’d stay out of the serious threads. This is hard on the nerves.
 
Does anyone know how to successfully delete ‘one’ quote when you accidentally added it?
I am finding it suddenly difficult to delete singular quotes . When I try, it only allows me to delete the words but not the name of the person posting the words. Sorry to take the subject off track but it appears it’s what I’m really good at. 🤫
 
Many Australians (including myself) have always felt heavy load vehicles should be kept off the road. Heavy loads should be carried by freight trains.

We have had a lot of bad accidents here too and many near misses.
 
Texas is a big place. There are plenty of areas where ice and snow are quite common. Good grief, this could have happened ANYWHERE, and in fact, it often does.
It does, but drivers in Southern states get into more of these deadly pileups than we do up North. Pre-treating the roads up here helps against ice accidents. If they know an ice storm is forecast down there they should try doing it.
 
It's a bit late to be arguing and coming up with all of these theories; it happened (due to icy roads).

And thankfully, this Texan is not blind. But, I am not use to driving in snow and icy roads.

May those who got killed... rest in peace.

Now, I'm a nervous wreck... one of my nephews was in that area earlier where he was 'committing' to a university that he will attend next fall on a sports scholarship. I am worried now. He will be leaving a town where extremely cold, snowy weather does not exist.
 
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Hitting black ice is no fun, especially driving a big truck
Yeah, there's mostly good professional semi drivers on the road, but, there's always the young 'cowboy'
I've seen 'em in the ditch along Hwy 97 'tween Chemult and Chiloquin every winter

'Course Hwy 97 is a death trap all by itself
About tore the seat cover off with my sphincter a few times
Everything I could do to keep on the road, let alone my lane
Driving sideways
 
Is everyone blind in Texas, where drivers forget what a brake in a vehicle is used for?

Where drivers keep coming full-steam ahead piling into stopped vehicles and carnage in front of them?
Some people absolutely think they can drive like the roads are clear but sometimes driving skill and caution won't prevent an accident. My son who's driven bus and is now a trucker was involved in a multi car accident years ago. Thank God it was nowhere near as serious as the accident in the OP. But he was coming off the exit near home and he saw the cars but it was so icy that he just kept sliding until he hit the back of a car. He has received several safe driving awards from J.B. Hunt Trucking Co and he often posts safe driving tips and warnings on FB for rainy, snowy and icy weather.

Re: the OP. That is so tragic and horrible. It's a shame people feel they need to get out there, no matter the weather. I wonder how many felt they had to go to work so they wouldn't be fired? I had seen a blip about the accident but it was early on, only showed the area where the truck with the lime green cab is and didn't mention how many had died. Terrible scene!! :cry:
 


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