tbeltrans
Senior Member
You probably speak for a fair portion of the male population of this forum too.
Tony
End of the Womanly Woman
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horseless carriage
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My wife spent thirty years in the ambulance service. Not one day did she ever go to work looking anything less than immaculate. There was a young doctor, a lady doctor, who used to compliment her on her appearance and asked how long it took to do her hair. Once, when off duty, she styled the doctor's hair like her own. The doctor was amazed that it took just fifteen minutes. They became life long friends.
I feel the most important thing for anyone to do is to be clean have their hair kept clean and brushed and wear clean clothes and not stink to high heaven. And that is just what I do when running errands. If I should go on a date or to a celebration or some special events then I put on a little make up and paint my nails at times and wear something more dressy.
Everything you say, Tony, spot-on.
As for children today being out of control, showing no direction, in and out of trouble, lacking good old-fashioned discipline, I see it all. Society, and our world today is plagued with it, it's become chronic.
I've said it before and I'll say it again, today's mentality of tripping over one another to acquire the biggest and nicest house on the block, the nicest vehicles in the driveway, along with the flashiest lifestyles, has all come at the expensive of the children.
Children are the ones who are being left out, forgotten about, and essentially, neglected, account the self-serving nature of parents today bent on fulfilling their own lifestyles and needs ahead of the lifestyles, needs, and well-being of their children.
I suspect it won't be long before someone comes along and mentions how expensive life is today, and yes, it's true, life... things... none of it has gotten cheaper, however, at the end of the day it boils down to good old-fashioned priorities... what's important, and judging by all that I'm witnessing today, it's apparent why so many children are falling through the cracks.
Home-time and family-time in a majority of homes today no longer exists.
I'm awfully sorry, but whiners complaining about days long gone (the "truth" of memory is highly debatable) being the ideal compared to the present and unknown future, well.......................I'm awfully sorry, but sounds like a bunch of indignant old farts clutching their pearls while more youthful people truly involved in building that future roll their eyes and avoid the lectures as much as possible. 
Yes, that was one sentence.
Once again, my sincere apologies.
Yes, that was one sentence.
Once again, my sincere apologies.
Boy-oh-boy, Mike, did you ever set off the bells and whistles with your post!
The not knowing how to cook thing, I will never understand for the life of me, and the only thing that adds up for me to explain such shortfalls, is a lack of home and family time... good old-fashioned one-on-one time like it used to be, where mothers stayed at home and took their daughters under their wings.
I learned just how clueless young girls were when my daughters were bringing home select friends of theirs from school. My goodness, so many times I thought to myself, did their mothers not teach them anything.
tbeltrans
Senior Member
Apologies for what? If what you expressed is how you feel, then that is what you should express. No apologies needed.I'm awfully sorry, but whiners complaining about days long gone (the "truth" of memory is highly debatable) being the ideal compared to the present and unknown future, well.......................I'm awfully sorry, but sounds like a bunch of indignant old farts clutching their pearls while more youthful people truly involved in building that future roll their eyes and avoid the lectures as much as possible.
Yes, that was one sentence.
Once again, my sincere apologies.
Tony
Well then! When I made this observation in Seabreeze’s thread a couple of days ago “End of the manly man” .... ”Now that I have a rather obscure vision of what a "manly man" is supposed to be. Wonder what a womanly woman is? Or should this be a new thread! “ (Dana)… I never expected this codswallop (ROFL).
To begin with:There have been bad men, unkempt men, uneducated men, men who are violent towards women all through the ages. The same applies to women.
On the other hand, there have been good men, men who take care of their appearance, who are educated and treat women and everyone else with respect and caring all through the ages. The same applies to women.
As far as I am concerned, parents have a responsibility to teach their children (males and females) to be self sufficient. My husband and I did just that. Our boys and our girls can all cook a decent meal, put a button on a garment, iron it, change a car tyre (if needed), gosh if the Queen of England can do that so can my girls.
I look at our children now and I could burst with pride because they are adaptable, can hold their own in most situations and are still “masculine or feminine” … whatever the hell that means!
Teach your children well and they will grow well...
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To begin with:There have been bad men, unkempt men, uneducated men, men who are violent towards women all through the ages. The same applies to women.
On the other hand, there have been good men, men who take care of their appearance, who are educated and treat women and everyone else with respect and caring all through the ages. The same applies to women.
As far as I am concerned, parents have a responsibility to teach their children (males and females) to be self sufficient. My husband and I did just that. Our boys and our girls can all cook a decent meal, put a button on a garment, iron it, change a car tyre (if needed), gosh if the Queen of England can do that so can my girls.
I look at our children now and I could burst with pride because they are adaptable, can hold their own in most situations and are still “masculine or feminine” … whatever the hell that means!
Teach your children well and they will grow well...
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Not all of us treat ladies that way, personally, I prefer treating a lady like a lady, it's so much more enjoyable.
Even if she's wearing blue jeans?Not all of us treat ladies that way, personally, I prefer treating a lady like a lady, it's so much more enjoyable.
horseless carriage
Well-known Member
This last year the supermarket shop has been the highlight of the week. You won't catch my wife in anything like jeans and a comfortable top.
so you're saying she gets all decked out to grab a gallon of milk? make up...nice clothes...fancy purse all that? and for what purpose? who is she having to impress? who in the store is gonna care?
horseless carriage
Well-known Member
You had better believe it.
Sorry, that sounds a bit harsh. We both take pride in appearance, but that's not to say we are judgemental of how anyone else dresses.
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Yup!!
I wear slacks with either a sweater type top, a tank (warmer/summer months), or a nice open sleeve top, pumps, or other stylish casual footwear, and my hair is always done.
My husband is the same, Need.
No matter who he's dealing with or greeting, all get the same level of respect and attention.
Another thumbs-up for real Manly Men.
as i asked...for what purpose? are people at the supermarket looking up from their phones to give a crap about what someone looks like that isn't half dressed? i likely think not.
I wear slacks, with thinner, pullover sweaters, or open-sleeve tops, even tanks (warmer/summer months), footwear is casual... a pair of dressy pumps, and my hair is always done.
My mom was exactly the same, 5 minute trip to the store, or a 5 hour trip to town, mom always looked classy and impeccable. Always clean and put together, and with nothing hanging out.
horseless carriage
Well-known Member
For what purpose? Choice.
It boils down to class, something that a good portion of the younger generation of today lacks (from all that I see).
@Aunt Marg
well i spent most of my life in my blue jeans. i hate dresses. always have. i used to dress nicer when i had someone in my life but honestly after seeing what men look at and what they like nowadays...i don't even bother. i'm not running around in tight skirts and tops with cleavage displayed for the world to see. i'm ok with looking a little homely. if i was gonna go to dinner i wouldn't mind dressing a little nicer. some of the leggings and tunics look prettier than what i normally wear. plus i would do hair and light make-up but those situations don't come along anymore so i don't bother.
well i spent most of my life in my blue jeans. i hate dresses. always have. i used to dress nicer when i had someone in my life but honestly after seeing what men look at and what they like nowadays...i don't even bother. i'm not running around in tight skirts and tops with cleavage displayed for the world to see. i'm ok with looking a little homely. if i was gonna go to dinner i wouldn't mind dressing a little nicer. some of the leggings and tunics look prettier than what i normally wear. plus i would do hair and light make-up but those situations don't come along anymore so i don't bother.
That's not really fair now is it, Pepper?I'm awfully sorry, but whiners complaining about days long gone (the "truth" of memory is highly debatable) being the ideal compared to the present and unknown future, well.......................I'm awfully sorry, but sounds like a bunch of indignant old farts clutching their pearls while more youthful people truly involved in building that future roll their eyes and avoid the lectures as much as possible.
Yes, that was one sentence.
Once again, my sincere apologies.
To accuse others of being "whiners" for simply lending their views and opinions related to honest thread conversation?
mellowyellow
Well-known Member
It’s a dilemma, young women today skull shots with the boys at the bar, it’s acceptable practice these days. The thought of what could result from these seemingly innocent events, boggles the mind.