Interesting article on concerns about the Wuhan laboratory sent by diplomats in 2018

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I've generally pointed to articles which reported scientists who investigated Covid deciding it's unlikely that the virus was created in a laboratory. I still tend to give weight to those investigations, but here's a new article about cables sent in 2018 from diplomats concerned about virus research being done in Wuhan.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/diplomats-warned-coronavirus-danger-wuhan-043020270.html

I still believe that the virus was not created to be released, but it's certainly possible that legitimate research on the coronavirus done with lack of protection might have allowed the virus to make the jump from bats to humans.

Anyway this is an interesting data point. I hope that the we get more information about it in the future.
 

IMO, this virus was part of the Chinese government "experimenting" with the means of conducting Chemical/Biological Warfare at their research site in Wuhan.....and through some sort of error, the virus was released. We will probably never know the full truth, from this dictator government. I would like to see the nations of the world beginning to isolate this Chinese regime, via pulling manufacturing out of that country, and refusing to buy Chinese products. That nation has gotten quite rich by undercutting manufacturing in much of the world, and they deserve to take a major hit to their wallet for causing millions of illnesses and deaths.
 

I could care less how the virus came into being and I wish the entire world would stop worrying about it. It does not matter. It’s here, it’s staying, and it’s now part of our lives, like cancer. I have MDS a very rare red blood cell cancer.

Why did I get it? How did I get it? Why wasn’t it diagnosed earlier? It doesn’t matter. I have it now. It’s been diagnosed. I will live with it or die from it. It is a part of my life as is Covid. People need to move on, there are better things to do and other things to worry about. IMO.
 
There was an article awhile back showing a British TV show from 2015 showing Chinese labs working on a virus that could jump from bats to humans. Now, they were supposedly looking for a way to stop that from happening but it shows there were things like that going on in their labs, I don't personally think they deliberately released it, but wouldn't be a bit surprised if it escaped. There also have been notifications of bad security issues from that lab well before the virus. So?
 
Aneeda72 said:
I could care less how the virus came into being and I wish the entire world would stop worrying about it. It does not matter. It’s here, it’s staying, and it’s now part of our lives, like cancer. I have MDS a very rare red blood cell cancer.

Why did I get it? How did I get it? Why wasn’t it diagnosed earlier? It doesn’t matter. I have it now. It’s been diagnosed. I will live with it or die from it. It is a part of my life as is Covid. People need to move on, there are better things to do and other things to worry about. IMO.
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It absolutely matters. Because knowing may stop it from happening again. If scientists knew how and why you got the cancer you have they may be able to keep others from getting it.
 
garyt1957 said:
It absolutely matters. Because knowing may stop it from happening again. If scientists knew how and why you got the cancer you have they may be able to keep others from getting it.
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We can not control what other countries do; any efforts to do so have ended in war and dead Americans and dead allies.

There are certain cancers that we know where they come from and there is a vaccine, given to teenagers, to avoid getting that/those cancers. But lots of teens are not vaccinated. Same old story, humans are stupid.
 
StarSong said:
To what end?
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Oh, oh, I can answer that, not speaking for anyone but me, of course. The Chinese government decided that, since they were ending the one child policy, they needed to make room for more Chinese people.

So they invented the virus, let in loose in their country, and allowed it to kill their own population. Then they decided to infect the USA by sending the virus to Europe, where Europeans could spread it to the USA.

By doing this, the Chinese could further harm their own country and their own people, because as you know, the people of China hate the people of China.

This really stupid and ridiculous explanation of mine makes as much sense as @Gaer does, IMO. 😂. @StarSong
 
Gaer said:
Aneeda, I know you're ill but is it necesssary to be so mean?
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I am not being mean. I disagree with you. You are not a victim. Just because I disagree with you does not mean I am mean or you are a victim . My explanation is as good as your conspiracy theory.

My son‘s significant other is Chinese. Born in China with many relatives in China who have died.

While she used to see her mother and other relatives in California every Christmas, she could not see them this year. She also visits China to see relatives there, not now of course, and could not attend anyone’s funeral. And she has relatives come from China and stay with her. Not now of course.

The continued racism against the Chinese, the continued attacks against the Chinese, the continued conspiracy theories are totally out of line.

We have the Europe version of the virus. We have the UK version of the virus. We do not have the Chinese version. It you NEED someone to blame to make yourself feel superior, blame Europe or the UK. It would be more accurate. IMO. @Gaer

Chinese people are being beaten up and killed because of statements like yours.
 
This sounds like a situation for Occam's Razor coupled with a little common sense applied to a better understanding of "who wants to control what" and "how far will they go" and "what steps will they take to get there". This is not, however, the type of thinking most do. I once attended a lecture where a senior govt. type once said something like, "All countries become somewhat predictable as their moves are based on what resources they need and want and what moves will help put or keep the leaders in power."
 
Murrmurr said:
Whether or not the virus escaped or was intentionally released is debatable, but it's clear to me that the Chinese government knows it would be unwise to engage with the US militarily, so it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out they're working on weaponizing a virus.
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Oh, it is pretty safe to say that a number of countries, especially China, have been working on virus weapons. Who might have released this virus and why is another discussion
 
JonDouglas said:
Oh, it is pretty safe to say that a number of countries, especially China, have been working on virus weapons. Who might have released this virus and why is another discussion
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Agreed. Nevertheless it seems a pretty stupid thing to do if you haven't already vaccinated your own citizens and military against it and all potential mutations.

If China did this intentionally (which I personally think is highly unlikely because they were massively unprepared for the virus from a PR and medical standpoint), it certainly bit them in the butt plenty hard.

When all the dust settles, it may well turn out that countries such as the US begin underwriting domestic factories and manufacturing so that we don't find ourselves in a position of dependency again.
 
Gaer said:
I stand behind my words. This was pre-planned and originated by the Chinese communist government.
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You could be right
StarSong said:
Agreed. Nevertheless it seems a pretty stupid thing to do if you haven't already vaccinated your own citizens and military against it and all potential mutations.

If China did this intentionally (which I personally think is highly unlikely because they were massively unprepared for the virus from a PR and medical standpoint), it certainly bit them in the butt plenty hard.

When all the dust settles, it may well turn out that countries such as the US begin underwriting domestic factories and manufacturing so that we don't find ourselves in a position of dependency again.
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Remember, as crass and inhuman as it seems, China has citizens to burn and probably wouldn't loose much that much sleep over a flu virus running loose. More than once, countries have used war, catastrophe or contrived incidents to galvanize their people.
 
One interesting picture came to light. Shown below, one might wonder what little Anthony Fauci was doing in a gathering of big money and media moguls. Aside from those less-bright who might immediately dive right into some conspiracy theory, the picture does raise some interesting questions.

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JonDouglas said:
You could be right

Remember, as crass and inhuman as it seems, China has citizens to burn and probably wouldn't loose much that much sleep over a flu virus running loose. More than once, countries have used war, catastrophe or contrived incidents to galvanize their people.
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You mean like when we invaded a country because they caused 911 and we were looking for weapons of mass destruction and participated in a war and killed lots of people; and then found out we were, you know, wrong.

And when we learned of who was really responsible we turned the other cheek cause of money and oil? Is that what you mean? People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. IMO.
 
MarciKS said:
@asp3 so they knew about this crap clear back in 2017 and didn't nip it in the bud then? They put all of us at risk because why??
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The article only stated that a diplomat was concerned about the level of safety precautions in a laboratory in Wuhan that was doing research on bat viruses. I don't think they knew about this particular version of the virus.
 

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