hollydolly
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yes I can't deny that ..he definitely has taken it too far, almost like a lover spurned...
Your Thoughts On Prince Harry & Meghan Upcoming Interview
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hollydolly
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Under protocols established by George V in letters patent more than 100 years ago in 1917, the children and grandchildren of a sovereign have the automatic right to the title HRH and prince or princess.
At the time Archie was born, he was the great-grandchild of a sovereign, not a grandchild.
George V’s declaration sets out: “The grandchildren of the sons of any such sovereign in the direct male line (save only the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales) shall have and enjoy in all occasions the style and title enjoyed by the children of dukes of this realm.”
As such, Archie will be entitled to the titles when Prince Charles accedes the throne.
George V’s declaration means that only Prince George, as a great-grandson of the monarch down the direct line of succession to the throne, was originally entitled to be a prince, as he is the eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales.
The Queen did step in ahead of George’s birth to issue letters patent to ensure the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge’s children would have the titles of prince and princess.
But they are children of the future monarch, whereas Archie is not. His father, Harry, is sixth in line to the throne, and will move down the line of succession if William and Kate have more children, and as George, Charlotte and Louis have children of their own.
At the time Archie was born, he was the great-grandchild of a sovereign, not a grandchild.
George V’s declaration sets out: “The grandchildren of the sons of any such sovereign in the direct male line (save only the eldest living son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales) shall have and enjoy in all occasions the style and title enjoyed by the children of dukes of this realm.”
As such, Archie will be entitled to the titles when Prince Charles accedes the throne.
George V’s declaration means that only Prince George, as a great-grandson of the monarch down the direct line of succession to the throne, was originally entitled to be a prince, as he is the eldest son of the eldest son of the Prince of Wales.
The Queen did step in ahead of George’s birth to issue letters patent to ensure the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge’s children would have the titles of prince and princess.
But they are children of the future monarch, whereas Archie is not. His father, Harry, is sixth in line to the throne, and will move down the line of succession if William and Kate have more children, and as George, Charlotte and Louis have children of their own.
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Thank you for that clarification. Royal protocols are obviously very complicated.
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This is why the Royal Family are run by 'the firm'..or 'grey suits' as Diana called them ... even the royals family don't know the rules and regs, there's far too many
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Look closely front faced at Harry. His eyes, smile and ears are Charles out and out. His red hair comes from his Mom's side. Her brother is a red head. I think it is terrible that people claim he has a different father than William. Diana didn't even know Hewitt when she was pregnant withHarry.
I agree with you but people will draw the conclusions they want to believe. My husband said there are people who hate Mother Teresa. Crazy ! Then again, human beings are complex creatures including me.
Harry was born on 15 September 1984... Diana's love affair with James Hewitt started 1986 to 1991. However that is of no importance to people who like a juicy bit of scandal.
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I know Keesha. A friend of mine who is from England insists Harry is Hewitt's son. I asked him if he was there at the conception. He didn't answer me.
Are we ever complex. Did you know that we have tons of atoms that mean nothing at all? Just taking up space.
Are we ever complex. Did you know that we have tons of atoms that mean nothing at all? Just taking up space.
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For some reason or other, one of my news apps lists articles about the royals daily. I decided to just keep getting those feeds. I read that Charles told Diana on their wedding night (or honeymoon) that he was in love with Camilla. Who the hell does that?! I think it's cruel to say the least. I have no respect for that man.
As for the OP, I didn't watch the interview because I'm not sure yet where (or if) I'll be able to stream it. I did see an excerpt on World News Tonight where Megan mentioned there was a discussion (neither she or Harry would say who) in which the question or concern was posed to Harry as to what color (eg: how dark) the baby would be! Seriously!?
It wouldn’t surprise me in the least. You’ve gotta read this. It’s mind blowing. I’m disliking this man the more I learn about him. It’s no wonder Diana was so frustrated and depressed. Apparently their honeymoon was a nightmare. He kept calling Camilla and she sent him cufflinks with her initials on them which he wore everyday and saw nothing wrong with it. Yes, who does that?
A ****ing insensitive jerk does that.
https://www.rd.com/list/didnt-know-prince-charles-princess-dianas-honeymoon/
The colour of Megan’s baby I really can’t comment on since I don’t know the context it was stated in and apparently nobody does. Neither one would say. That’s still a mystery however when I watched ‘The Social’ today, it was noted that there will be an official investigation into prejudism and the Queen has already addressed the public about it. Who is investigating it, I have no idea.
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Nosy Bee-54
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What good becomes of the investigation when the Queen says the results (findings) would remain private?
Well! We’ll have to find out. I don’t know what will happen and neither does anyone else, nor do we know for sure that the Queen has that option. Is she above the law? These are things I have no idea about. Note: I believe an investigation made will be an inside investigation.
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Just having a chat with one of my relatives in London. She feels there are two possibilities for the owner of the racist remark concerning Meghan's unborn child. Either Prince William or the rogue prince Andrew. I am praying it is not Wills...this would certainly bring the monarchy down. Please do not let it be his brother.
The Queen can't be arrested or be the subject of civil and criminal proceedings, meaning she is effectively exempt from the law.
That’s not what I meant. I meant, if there’s an investigation by the police, is she allowed to say she doesn’t want it disclosed to the general public. I can understand that she’d be exempt but there’s more than ‘her’ in the royal family and I doubt very much that she had anything to do with saying anything about the colour of Meghans baby. She seems to have far too much class and manners to stoop so low.
Yes, she can say that because technically it is a family matter and also the Queen has sovereign immunity and no crime was committed.
Ok ! I guess it will be a complete waste of time then. It doesn’t really make sense that an investigation would even take place. If insulting people was a crime , half the world would be arrested. Plus I didn’t say I agreed with this.
I merely stated what I heard on a television program. I also don’t understand what type of investigation is taking place. I’m not sure why you’re asking me all these questions. I don’t know any of the answers.
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I don't share your fear about the princes marrying commoners bringing about the end of the monarchy, (they both did I believe, though Kate being a very long term girlfriend of Prince William, got herself a very thorough grounding as to what she should have to face so far as the scrutiny, "you remember those reports of her being photographed on a beach in France by a reporter with a telephoto lens camera"?).
However, survival of the monarchy can be questioned for other reasons, perhaps when the current generation are gone, and those of us who understood the importance of the royalty fifty years ago, or even more so to my fathers generation, and during WWII, when we're all gone it may come to an end perhaps, if people here want a republic and a president(?).
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Have the words read by an English actress and it could be the whining Diana interview all over again.
It's perfectly normal when someone is pregnant to speculate what the baby will look like and take after. I don't doubt that someone said, 'I wonder if it will have red hair?'. In this particular case, it would also be normal to wonder about the colour of the child's skin.
Nothing racist about it at all.
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In all fairness, lots of people hate Piers Morgan, and him having an argument on live TV with the weatherman about Markle.. was exactly the reason they needed, doesn't mean they support Meghan.
Great news...over 41,000 members of the British public have made complaints about Piers Morgan and his constant hammering of Meghan.
Ás a result, ITV has accepted his resignation