Interesting article on concerns about the Wuhan laboratory sent by diplomats in 2018

[Aneeda72]

Simple. The Chinese have a stated goal of being the world's super power. This virus has crippled the US, the current super power. We just signed a $1.9 trillion stimulus bill, on top of the other two stimulus bills. We will likely never get out of this debt and that weakens the US dollar to the point of where it may no longer be used as the world's currency, which would be catastrophic to the US.
The US is the world's biggest economy yet we're due to be supplanted by the Chinese in a certain number of years. The virus and subsequent shutdowns have moved that point up 5-10 years.
We defeated the Soviet Union without firing a shot by bankrupting them and that's exactly what China is doing to us.
This would be a darn good movie plot if it weren't actually happening in real life. Now let me say, I don't particularly believe the Chinese did this on purpose (although I certainly wouldn't be shocke to find out it's true) but you asked to what end and I've just given you a perfectly good reason they MIGHT do this.

. The US economy was on the way out long before the virus but let’s blame China for everything. It is true that China owns a great deal of property in the USA and it would be against their best interest and ours for us to fail. Plus, we buy so much from them our failure would impact them greatly.

All the PPE was manufactured in China. I know this because one of my children works for a company that supplies PPE to our country, plus cleaning supplies. They could not make the cleaning supplies, for months, because the chemicals came from China.

As for Russia, America may have contributed to the failure of Russia’s economy, which is recovering, but it certainly didn’t completely cause it or defeat Russia. A country, with a large nuclear arsenal, can never be defeated. In fact, any country with nuclear weapons can not be defeated. Although we all could destroy the world.

I am not sure that America has the “worlds biggest economy” or if we ever had the worlds biggest economy. We are a super power not because of our economy but because of our nuclear weapons and military might. China is also a super power, perhaps more super than us in terms of military powers. I don’t know.

The US dollar became worthless in the Great Depression. You could just about burn the stuff to keep you warm. Our money is worthless now since it is NOT backed by either gold or silver. It is simply printed paper. We are heavily on debt, but, yes, we can lay that debt off. Higher taxes.

 

[Aneeda72]

Shall we rewrite this into a fairy tale to come out with whatever the mind can accept?
Let's leave out the part of why were they developing a covid virus.
Let's leave out the part where the Chinese communist government told them to develop this, because some might think it's racist.
I know! let's skip to the part where everyone lives happily ever after.

You are standing up for the Chinese communist party?
Can you name a time in history when the people who were for censored speech, punished free expression, banned books, and pushed their ideology on others (including cancelling them) were the good guys?
Just curious, because i can't think of one.

You do understand that the USA develops biological agents for biological warfare, yeah, I am sure you realize this. Every single country capable of developing very bad biological weapons do so.

The USA was the first country to develop nuclear weapons, tested in the Nevada desert. We caused the death OF OUR OWN PEOPLE by doing those tests. You have, I assume, heard of the downwinders. We are the ONLY, ONLY country to use nuclear weapons.

You do remember what we did to Japan? Our house is made of glass.

Show me the order where the Chinese government ordered the creation of this virus? Show me the order where the virus was purposely released. It has been established that made up orders by hysterical people are just that-made up.

Those nuclear bombs, which killed innocent men, woman, and children, were dropped by order of the current president of the United Stares. There are Japanese survivors that still suffer the effects. There is enough shame for all the countries of the world in what they have done to the other countries of the world.

Perhaps you have forgotten the times when books were banned in the USA, certain movies were banned, free speech is limited here by law, and we just had an episode were a group of people tried to overturn an election and impose their ideology on OUR country.

So yes, I can name a country where all this happened, including slavery where black people were not even allowed to read, the United States of America. You know, us as the good guys. Lord love a duck.

More news watching, less kool-aid drinking is the cure, IMO.

As to your question, do I support the communist party? I support the right of any citizen of the USA to join any party of their choice, even the Republican Party. . As I have said, I joined the army as soon as I turned 18, as soon as my husband turned 18 he joined the marines.

Please tell me @Gaer what branch of the service you joined to aid and protect the USA?

 

[garyt1957]

. The US economy was on the way out long before the virus but let’s blame China for everything. It is true that China owns a great deal of property in the USA and it would be against their best interest and ours for us to fail. Plus, we buy so much from them our failure would impact them greatly.

All the PPE was manufactured in China. I know this because one of my children works for a company that supplies PPE to our country, plus cleaning supplies. They could not make the cleaning supplies, for months, because the chemicals came from China.

As for Russia, America may have contributed to the failure of Russia’s economy, which is recovering, but it certainly didn’t completely cause it or defeat Russia. A country, with a large nuclear arsenal, can never be defeated. In fact, any country with nuclear weapons can not be defeated. Although we all could destroy the world.

I am not sure that America has the “worlds biggest economy” or if we ever had the worlds biggest economy. We are a super power not because of our economy but because of our nuclear weapons and military might. China is also a super power, perhaps more super than us in terms of military powers. I don’t know.

The US dollar became worthless in the Great Depression. You could just about burn the stuff to keep you warm. Our money is worthless now since it is NOT backed by either gold or silver. It is simply printed paper. We are heavily on debt, but, yes, we can lay that debt off. Higher taxes.

Wow , you are wrong on so many levels. Just the fact that you say you're not sure the US has the world's biggest economy proves to me you're basically clueless and it's not worth holding a discussion with you. I'm out.

 

[Aneeda72]

Wow , you are wrong on so many levels. Just the fact that you say you're not sure the US has the world's biggest economy proves to me you're basically clueless and it's not worth holding a discussion with you. I'm out.

I believe you were “out” before and you are back to name calling to defend your position.

 

[Aneeda72]

I believe you were “out” before and you are back to name calling to defend your position.

Edited: I am not an economist and not terribly interested in who has the largest economy, size does not matter , however I googled it.

USA number 1

China number 2

So what? Oh, dang it, you left the conversation

 

[StarSong]

In due time, when there's more information. Waiting until the fog clears is usually a good idea.

5 of the people in this 2001 photo are now deceased, 3 are in their 70s, 5 are in their 80s, and 2 are in their 90s. Talk about playing the long game.

Since it's been 20 years since this shot was taken, the fog is likely as clear as it's ever going to be.

Of course you could acknowledge that you were taken in by someone's attempt to besmirch this group by implying nefarious associations based on a quite innocent group shot whose date and context caption was intentionally cropped out.

Many of us have retracted statements on this forum with apologies for not fully vetting information before passing it along.