Reluctant to get vaccinated? why?

Don M.

Don M.

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Now that the supply of these Covid vaccines are starting to become more readily available, some parts of our area are actually seeing "empty" appointments, and opportunities for people to just "show up" to get a shot. However, There are several reports about substantial numbers of people who are Not intending to get vaccinated.

I can understand refusing to get a vaccine if a person has an existing health issue that might be aggravated by one of these shots....but, if a person is generally in good health, Why would they Not want to get some protection from this pandemic???
 

I'm in EXCELLENT HEALTH and an hour after I got the first vaccine, I had horrendous adverse effects, including passing out.
This really surprised me because right after the shot, I felt GREAT!
The national CVC headquarter's nurse told me, "under no circumstances am I to get the second shot".

Many are reluctant to put unnatural chemicals in their body and are opting to wait it out, hoping the virus will end soon.
Personal call, I guess. I sure don't want to keep anyone from getting vaccinated because most people have no adverse side effects.
 
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I think even more concerning is that those who have had the vaccine, seem to think they are now immune and don't need to take any precautions. I've had it but I'm still wearing a mask and using hand sanitizer.
 

My sister did well after the first shot. After the second she ran a low grade fever for a day and had stomach problems. After that day she was great. She has a lot of underlying conditions and she is so glad she was able to get the shots. Her doctor said the fever and stomach problems were nothing to be concerned about as they just happened one day and with all her other problems he was not surprised. He said it affected people different ways.

I am signed up for the mobile unit that will come out and give you the shot in your home. Just like the flu vaccine, I will be glad to get it.
After the vaccine I will continue with the hand washing and mask wearing at home and when out.
 
Looks like several countries have temporarily suspended the use of AstraZeneca while they look into claims if blood clotting issues in patients who have had the 2 doses of this vaccine. This after there has been universal disagreement as to whether AstraZeneca is as effective in senior as most other vaccines.
Seems to be more controversy over this one than the others? Should be noted that the blood clot issues has not yet been officially linked to AstraZeneca. There's no data yet to prove a link. These suspensions are all just cautionary at this point.
https://globalnews.ca/news/7690075/astrazeneca-vaccine-denmark-blood-clot/
 
Don M. said:
I can understand refusing to get a vaccine if a person has an existing health issue that might be aggravated by one of these shots....but, if a person is generally in good health, Why would they Not want to get some protection from this pandemic???
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Quite a few people in good health have died after getting the various vaccines. It's still a small minority but it happens. That's enough to give people pause. I was just talking to the optometrist who did my eye exam. His father died 10 days after getting his second shot. He says he was healthy before that. He says he's not getting the vaccine. Hard to blame him. I'm going to get my first shot tomorrow, but I'm hesitant, not going to lie. These vaccines haven't been tested like they should and we're all basically guinea pigs.
 
The problem is trust. How can you trust a pharmaceutical company that's killed almost as many Americans from opioid overdoses as have died from COVID and who also made sure they can't be sued for future damages from the vaccine, or the FDA that approved the over-prescribing of opioids and also refuses to ban dangerous food additives year after year, or a government that's listening to lobbyists while it says it's listening to the science?
 
Murrmurr said:
The problem is trust. How can you trust a pharmaceutical company that's killed almost as many Americans from opioid overdoses as have died from COVID and who also made sure they can't be sued for future damages from the vaccine, or the FDA that approved the over-prescribing of opioids and also refuses to ban dangerous food additives year after year, or a government that's listening to lobbyists while it says it's listening to the science?
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Yep, it's all about profits.
 
Don M. said:
Now that the supply of these Covid vaccines are starting to become more readily available, some parts of our area are actually seeing "empty" appointments, and opportunities for people to just "show up" to get a shot. However, There are several reports about substantial numbers of people who are Not intending to get vaccinated.

I can understand refusing to get a vaccine if a person has an existing health issue that might be aggravated by one of these shots....but, if a person is generally in good health, Why would they Not want to get some protection from this pandemic???
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Because they want to stay in good health.
 
I'm not a "fan" of prescription drugs, and most of these "annual" vaccinations....flu, pneumonia, shingles, etc. Most of that Crap is more about making the drug companies rich, IMO. However, in the case of this CoronaVirus, I made an exception and got my 2nd Moderna shot yesterday, and, like the first shot, all I'm feeling today is a very minor "itch" on my arm.

The primary reason why I'm taking this vaccine seriously is because of the extreme effect it's having on our economy and the huge number of people who have lost their jobs, etc. I feel it's my responsibility to do whatever I can to help return everything back to normal, and a bit of minor pain for a day or two is a small sacrifice if it helps end this mess.
 
Don M. said:
I'm not a "fan" of prescription drugs, and most of these "annual" vaccinations....flu, pneumonia, shingles, etc. Most of that Crap is more about making the drug companies rich, IMO. However, in the case of this CoronaVirus, I made an exception and got my 2nd Moderna shot yesterday, and, like the first shot, all I'm feeling today is a very minor "itch" on my arm.

The primary reason why I'm taking this vaccine seriously is because of the extreme effect it's having on our economy and the huge number of people who have lost their jobs, etc. I feel it's my responsibility to do whatever I can to help return everything back to normal, and a bit of minor pain for a day or two is a small sacrifice if it helps end this mess.
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Do you find it rather interesting that your concern is for the economy & job loss, but not for your health?
And, it's also interesting that people who choose the vaccine try to convince others to make the same choice, but people who choose not to get the vaccine don't try to convince others to make the same choice.
My nephew is a perfect example. After we've discussed it several times, he offered to make an appointment for me at CVS to get the vaccine when he knows I'm not interested in it. He thinks it's his way of "Caring," but it's really his way of "Controlling." And he's seeking confidence in his decision from others making the same decision.
 
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Murrmurr said:
The problem is trust. How can you trust a pharmaceutical company that's killed almost as many Americans from opioid overdoses as have died from COVID and who also made sure they can't be sued for future damages from the vaccine, or the FDA that approved the over-prescribing of opioids and also refuses to ban dangerous food additives year after year, or a government that's listening to lobbyists while it says it's listening to the science?
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Some pharma companies make opioid-based products and some don't. Moderna doesn't, but J&J does. Pfizer makes a little known opioid called Emba which is only a tiny part of its sales.
 
Don M. said:
I'm not a "fan" of prescription drugs, and most of these "annual" vaccinations....flu, pneumonia, shingles, etc. Most of that Crap is more about making the drug companies rich, IMO. However, in the case of this CoronaVirus, I made an exception and got my 2nd Moderna shot yesterday, and, like the first shot, all I'm feeling today is a very minor "itch" on my arm.

The primary reason why I'm taking this vaccine seriously is because of the extreme effect it's having on our economy and the huge number of people who have lost their jobs, etc. I feel it's my responsibility to do whatever I can to help return everything back to normal, and a bit of minor pain for a day or two is a small sacrifice if it helps end this mess.
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Same here. I don't get annual flu shots, and my physician is ok with that. In fact, she told me that most of them aren't very effective for seniors.

The only reason I went for both covid vaccines is because my grandkids return to school soon and they spend almost every weekend here with gramps, as does my former foster son who started preschool a couple months ago. If not for that, I wouldn't have gotten vaccinated.
 
win231 said:
Do you find it rather interesting that your concern is for the economy & job loss, but not for your health?
And, it's also interesting that people who choose the vaccine try to convince others to make the same choice, but people who choose not to get the vaccine don't try to convince others to make the same choice.
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That’s untrue I have never tried to get anyone to take the vaccine, especially you 😂.
 
win231 said:
Do you find it rather interesting that your concern is for the economy & job loss, but not for your health?
And, it's also interesting that people who choose the vaccine try to convince others to make the same choice, but people who choose not to get the vaccine don't try to convince others to make the same choice.
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My "health" is an ongoing concern, and I try to take good care of it. However, in the case of this virus, the Far Bigger Picture is the steps every individual should try to take to insure the health of those around them. Since this disease appears to be so easily spread, it would seem that "responsible" people would be trying to do their small part to bring it under control....IMO. Those who chose not to do so are part of the problem.
 
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Great, glad you got the shots. The whole opioid thing is such a mess and there is so much blame to go around, including lots of individual doctors unfortunately.
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There is also personnel responsibility which seems to fall by the way side. Blame the doctors, blame the companies, but for the love of God, don’t blame yourself.

I used to be given tons of pain pills which I ended up throwing away. I would be rich if I’d sold them 😂. Now I am specific as to which pill I want, how many, and what strength.

I am very careful with pain meds. There are times I have to take what I consider too many too often and months when I don’t take any. But it is my responsibility to ensure I don’t get “hooked”, and mine alone. IMO.
 
The only reason I went for both covid vaccines is because my grandkids return to school soon and they spend almost every weekend here with gramps, as does my former foster son who started preschool a couple months ago. If not for that, I wouldn't have gotten vaccinated.

That's also a major 'incentive" for us, too. We have a real nice family, and until this virus hit, we gathered frequently. Over the past year, those visits have been substantially reduced. We often had some of the great grandkids here for a weekend, until this past year....and we are looking forward to resuming that Joy.
 
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Don M. said:
The only reason I went for both covid vaccines is because my grandkids return to school soon and they spend almost every weekend here with gramps, as does my former foster son who started preschool a couple months ago. If not for that, I wouldn't have gotten vaccinated.

That's also a major 'incentive" for us, too. We have a real nice family, and until this virus hit, we gathered frequently. Over the past year, those visits have been substantially reduced. We often had some of the great grandkids here for a weekend, until this past year....and we a looking forward to resuming that Joy.
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I so agree.

If people won’t take the vaccine for themselves, they should take it for others, but no pressure cause they are not in my bubble.
 
Don M. said:
Now that the supply of these Covid vaccines are starting to become more readily available, some parts of our area are actually seeing "empty" appointments, and opportunities for people to just "show up" to get a shot. However, There are several reports about substantial numbers of people who are Not intending to get vaccinated.

I can understand refusing to get a vaccine if a person has an existing health issue that might be aggravated by one of these shots....but, if a person is generally in good health, Why would they Not want to get some protection from this pandemic???
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Speaking for myself and my hubby, we're healthy with no underlying health woes or issues.

But more importantly (and most important of all), it's our way to say ride-it to the likes of the HC, CFIA, HC, the legislation that prevents those who choose to receive a vaccination to sue if health complications arise, and everyone else in-between.
 
Aunt Marg said:
Speaking for myself and my hubby, we're healthy with no underlying health woes or issues.

But more importantly (and most important of all), it's our way to say ride-it to the likes of the HC, CFIA, HC, the legislation that prevents those who choose to receive a vaccination to sue if health complications arise, and everyone else in-between.
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You'd rather risk getting COVID & possibly spreading it/killing someone else with it because you can't sue if the vaccine hurts you?
 
Murrmurr said:
Pfizer was fined $2.5 million for fraudulent marketing practices (regarding opioids in particular). When their vaccine brought their stocks up, they more than recovered the $2.5 mil.
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Shame on the $2.5 M fine!

Pfizer's total assets: US$178.983 billion (2020)

Pfizer should have been shut down!
 

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