Reluctant to get vaccinated? why?

It just happened by chance that the first vac apt that came my way was for. Moderna, I took it & the usual arth aches cranked up a bit for a day or so. Got 2nd on Mar 7, just felt a bit “blah” for a day. I had never heard of Moderna before. I would have been leery of the J & J, don’t have a really high opinion of that co. I detest what has happened due to the excess Rx of opioids. I feel it’s very sad that some people have had bad reactions, and I hope those cases will be studied in depth. I trust those closest to me to make their own decisions about vaccine, and hopefully will not have any problems. Can honestly say I “never met a vaccine i didn’t like”.
It still worries me that people could be making decisions based on politics and economics rather than science.
 
Geezerette said:
It just happened by chance that the first vac apt that came my way was for. Moderna, I took it & the usual arth aches cranked up a bit for a day or so. Got 2nd on Mar 7, just felt a bit “blah” for a day. I had never heard of Moderna before. I would have been leery of the J & J, don’t have a really high opinion of that co. I detest what has happened due to the excess Rx of opioids. I feel it’s very sad that some people have had bad reactions, and I hope those cases will be studied in depth. I trust those closest to me to make their own decisions about vaccine, and hopefully will not have any problems. Can honestly say I “never met a vaccine i didn’t like”.
It still worries me that people could be making decisions based on politics and economics rather than science.
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Science (good or bad) means nothing to me when those behind such science are nothing more than two-bit, conniving liars.
 
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Aunt Marg said:
Science (good or bad) means nothing to me when those being the science are nothing more than two-bit, conniving liars. to call people working 12 to 14 hours a day trying to save the human race “liars”, l
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Easy to call people who work 8 to 16 hours a day “liars” as they try to save the human race. Easier yet for some people to drink the kool aid and believe the fairy tale of there is no virus, there is no relative science to prove there is a virus, and the saviors of the human race are liars.

I seem to recall a certain past head of state who forwarded this fairy tale and then snuck off with his tail between his legs in the dead of night and got secretly vaccinated. While his fairy tale believers died. Who is the liar now?
 
Murrmurr said:
Pfizer was fined $2.5 million for fraudulent marketing practices (regarding opioids in particular). When their vaccine brought their stocks up, they more than recovered the $2.5 mil.
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Pfizer's global sales last year were $41.9 billion. So a $2.5 million fine is no big deal.
 
JimBob1952 said:
Pfizer's global sales last year were $41.9 billion. So a $2.5 million fine is no big deal.
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The fine, aside from being a joke, was handed-down to remind Pfizer to up their game when it comes to underhanded practices, in other words... cover things up better in the future in relation to fraudulent marketing practices.

Otherwise, job well done Pfizer! Carry on.
 
I've often wondered why "essential workers" weren't next in line for the vaccine after "front line workers" instead of elderly people, particularly since many elderly people already live in relative (safe) seclusion if not within a senior facility (which, if you remember, is where a significant number of COVID cases were being transferred to from hospitals), and I sometimes wonder if the conversation went like this -

Essential workers: I don't want the vaccine until there's more data. Let someone else go first.
Deciding parties: No sweat, we have an endless supply of old people.
Essential workers: But they have underlying health problems, won't that mess up the data?
Deciding parties: Yes, but we can still glean useful convincing data.

Not saying that's how it went, just saying it kinda makes sense.
 
Murrmurr said:
I've often wondered why "essential workers" weren't next in line for the vaccine after "front line workers" instead of elderly people, particularly since many elderly people already live in relative (safe) seclusion if not within a senior facility (which, if you remember, is were where a significant number of COVID cases were being transferred to from hospitals), and I sometimes wonder if the conversation went like this -

Essential workers: I don't want the vaccine until there's more data. Let someone else go first.
Deciding parties: No sweat, we have an endless supply of old people.
Essential workers: But they have underlying health problems, won't that mess up the data?
Deciding parties: Yes, but we can still glean useful convincing data.

Not saying that's how it went, just saying it kinda makes sense.
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I don’t know and, “frankly my dear I don’t give a damn” (Gone with the Wind). 😂. As with the stimulus, I got mine, up to you to get yours or not.
 
Aneeda72 said:
I don’t know and, “frankly my dear I don’t give a damn” (Gone with the Wind). 😂. As with the stimulus, I got mine, up to you to get yours or not.
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Every time I hear the word "stimulus", I gag! :mad:

Aside from digging our countries into debt deeper, what is a pittance of a payment going to do for those who are behind on their rents, for those who haven't made mortgage payments for the past 6 months, who can't pay their heating and light bills, who can't put food on the table?

Here, I'll answer it for you, not a single thing.

$600 - $1000, big whoopty-doo! We spend that a month on groceries alone. Now, where is the additional monies to catch up on mortgage payments, car payments, food, keeping the gas and electricity on?

Where is the additional monies to cover incidentals and emergency happenings?

Where is the additional monies to pay for people's property taxes?

It's a joke, that's what it is.
 
Giantsfan1954 said:
Originally was in the no column, did some reading and saw it doesn’t contain any live virus, getting my 2nd Moderna on Saturday.
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Yeah, I did too. Then, at first I thought RNA had never been used in a vaccine before and that was alarming, but it has many times, and was very effective. It's mostly effective at mitigation - reducing symptoms/keeping you out of the ICU. So you can still get COVID, but you won't get nearly as sick as you might have without the vaccine and you won't be sick for nearly as long.
 
Don M. said:
Now that the supply of these Covid vaccines are starting to become more readily available, some parts of our area are actually seeing "empty" appointments, and opportunities for people to just "show up" to get a shot. However, There are several reports about substantial numbers of people who are Not intending to get vaccinated.

I can understand refusing to get a vaccine if a person has an existing health issue that might be aggravated by one of these shots....but, if a person is generally in good health, Why would they Not want to get some protection from this pandemic???
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Two words "Political viewpoint" Doesn't make sense but there seems to be a connection between anti-vaccers and their political leanings.
 
Murrmurr said:
The problem is trust. How can you trust a pharmaceutical company that's killed almost as many Americans from opioid overdoses as have died from COVID and who also made sure they can't be sued for future damages from the vaccine, or the FDA that approved the over-prescribing of opioids and also refuses to ban dangerous food additives year after year, or a government that's listening to lobbyists while it says it's listening to the science?
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Murr, please, these pharmaceutical companies did not kill anyone who overdosed on opiods and that kind of logic befuddles me. Gun manufacturers do not kill victims of gunshots either, but a lot of people seem to think so. Including some judges and juries.
 
StarSong said:
Not sure I agree with that statement. There have been plenty of threads, links and opinions on this forum (plus other places) strongly in favor of declining the vaccine.
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Much like the flu shot, if someone asks me why I don't want the vaccine, I will explain why. That's not the same as trying to convince others not to get the vaccine. I would never try to convince anyone to get it or not get it.
Last week, I drove some elderly friends to get their Covid vaccines. They know I'm not getting the vaccine; we've discussed it.
 
Got my first of two Pfizer shots this afternoon. Zero pain, everything went smoothly despite a lot of people it was very smooth and organized. The bottle with the vaccine is smaller than a thimble yet contains six doses. I have to go back on March 30 for the second shot. April is going to be a very great month for this old boy.🌈☀️🌈
 
Murrmurr said:
Especially when it doesn't actually come out of your pocket.
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True that, as they used to say. It would make more sense to have the CEO and board responsible for paying the fines themselves. They would find a way to wriggle out of that, though.
 

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