What do you think happens when you die

chic said:
I think we are just in an unconscious state forever with no thoughts or awareness anymore. I hope it's all peaceful.
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chic..hmmm if we are unconscious how would we know if it's peaceful..maybe I missed something here
 

debodun said:
There's an old saying - "Everyone wants to get to heaven, but no one wants to do what it takes to get there."
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officerripley said:
I think no one existed before the instant that their biol. father impregnated their biol. mother; that no one exists after death; and unless someone is famous, once everyone who knew and remembered that someone is dead, it's as if that someone never existed.
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debodun..TY...Interesting..so maybe you believe we live on only in memories.....
 
Warrigal said:
I do not know, but I do know that Shakespeare had it back to front. He has Mark Anthony say "The evil men do lives after then, the good is oft interred with their bones" but in the case of my dear ones, the good lives on in the memory of the many people who were touched by them in life. The love that they generously bestowed is handed down, generation to generation, friend to friend and neighbour to neighbour and spreads out like morning ripples on a pond.

I waste no time thinking about my own death because I totally agree with the bard when he wrote,
"Of all the wonders that I yet have heard,
It seems to me most strange that men should fear;
Seeing that death, a necessary end,
Will come when it will come."

As for imagery of death, I really like JRR Tolkien's depiction of the Elves journeying slowly to the Grey Havens where a boat is waiting to transport them over the horizon, to be seen no more. It is a solemn journey that involves separation and loss but that contains also the promise of an end to suffering.

Strangely, as I write these words, my eyes are watering involuntarily.
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Warrigal.... TY That was beautiful🌹
 
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Aneeda72 said:
Your body rots, the bugs win, and depending where you are when you die, your bones stay in one place or are scattered by animals
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I once heard the same thought expressed in a Sydney park by a derelict alcoholic. He was lying on the ground in front of an evangelist preacher and his contribution was,
"Hey.. HEY.... When you're dead, you're dead. And the grubs eat yer."

I thought he spoke a truth, but not a very helpful one. I'm not a fan of nihilism but I don't subscribe to "pie in the sky when you die" either.
 
My son had a near death experience at age 2 which he shared at age 4.

His heart stopped from miocarditis after being helicoptered to Children's hospital in Wash DC. He flatlined. Back then most people did not survive miocarditis. The doctors team said he should have died but long story short, he survived it.

Fast forward. At age 3 or 4 we drove to AZ to visit my sister. He pointed to the very top of a high mountain and said, "I was up there". I said "no you've never been there" but he was more than sure that he had been on a high mountain.

So I asked if there was anyone with him. He said, "I don't know because we were standing side by side looking down from the mountain. I said "You didn't see what this person looked like at all"? My son said, "I could only tell he was very very bright, like white." I asked him what he saw below when he looked down from the mountaintop and he said...darkness.

He was barely 2. And that age had not had time to be brainwashed or educated as to "near death experiences". It was a pure and real experience for him.

Fast forward to about 3rd grade maybe. Now that he was older I reopened the conversation. I said do you remember being on top of that mountain. He said yes. I asked if he could share anymore about it and he said I can make myself go there anytime. He said he could be sitting in class and make himself go there. I said can you go there now? He said "Yes but I don't want to". I asked why and he said he just didn't want to go there.

He's now 36. I've thought about bringing it up again but for some reason I hesitate. I'm afraid it will be hard for him I guess.

I was concerned about the darkness he saw because to me it sounded like hell. I researched a little and found something that said others had also seen darkness before coming back and felt it was a "holding" place before going to the final place. There wasn't much else said about it as I recall. It was just reassuring to me to think it wasn't looked at as a bad place.

I believe my son since he was so young and not influenced by media etc and I believe it was an angel or Jesus or God standing next to him.
 
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Lara said:
My son's heart stopped at age 2 from miocarditis after being helicoptered to Children's hospital in Wash DC. He flatlined. Came to. Flatlined again...many times. He had to be shocked to bring him back. They gave him a temporary pacemaker which was all wrong because he only needed antibiotics but back then they didn't know much about miocarditis plus the staff misplaced his test results for 2 weeks. They also gave him a blood transfusion and shot drugs (including controversial steroids) in him to save his life.

Back then most people did not survive miocarditis. The doctors team said he should have died.

Fast forward. At age 3 or 4 we drove to AZ to visit my sister. He pointed to the very top of a high mountain and said, "I was up there". I said "no you've never been there" but he was more than sure that he had been on a high mountain.

So I asked if there was anyone with him. He said, "I don't know because we were standing side by side looking down from the mountain. I said "You didn't see what this person looked like at all"? My son said, "I could only tell he was very very bright, like white." I asked him what he saw below when he looked down from the mountaintop and he said darkness. I asked him to draw a picture...but to me it just looked like scribbles. I tried to make something of it but to no avail.

He was barely 2. And that age had not had time to be brainwashed or educated as to "near death experiences". It was a pure and real experience for him.

Fast forward to about 3rd grade maybe. Now that he was older I reopened the conversation. I said do you remember being on top of that mountain. He said yes. I asked if he could share anymore about it and he said I can make myself go there anytime...I just close my eyes. He said he could be sitting in class and make himself go there. I said can you go there now? He said "Yes but I don't want to". I asked why and he said he just don't want to go there.

He's now 36. I've thought about bringing it up again but for some reason I hesitate. I'm afraid it will be hard for him I guess.

I was concerned about the darkness he saw because to me it sounded like hell. I researched a little and found something that said others had also seen darkness before coming back and felt it was a "holding" place before going to the final place. There wasn't much else said about it as I recall. It was just reassuring to me to think it wasn't looked at as a bad place.

I believe my son since he was so young and not influenced by media etc and I believe it was an angel or Jesus or God standing next to him.
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Or it could have been Mary the Mother of JC. I gave my boys into her care when they died. 😍
 
I'm like J.B, Brooks. I'm not Catholic but I'm a Christian and share with JB the realization that believing by faith irritates many of the online readers who want scientific proof...which no one has on either side. But knowing that they don't want to hear what my belief is, is enough for me to walk away. So, like Gaer, this is not the time nor place for me to share my belief in what happens when we die.

I will say that I'm at total peace with what I believe.

I'm sorry to hear about your boys Aneeda. That's hard.
 
Lara said:
I'm like J.B, Brooks. I'm not Catholic but I'm a Christian and share with JB the realization that believing by faith irritates many of the online readers who want scientific proof...which no one has on either side.
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There are only 2 recognized theories of life, Creationism and Evolution. If we agree on that we go from there.

Some scientists are of the belief that DNA Coding requires Intelligence, not by some artificially created water master.

NO, NO, amount of time on the Evolutionary scale can form a human being. We are too medically complex to have been put together by simple organisms.

The human eye, the magnificent brain, etc. Did evolution decide where body parts go. We could have been born with our heads on our ankles and feet on our heads? At what stage of development did evolution start at?

"Well, I think I'll make the foot first, then the leg, or should I start at the head with no neck? Imagine walking through a forest and come across an eyeball with feet. That could be a human who did not advance far enough on the Evolutionary scale.🤥
 
Interesting thread Serenity...this is my view.

A question that’s impossible to answer and we can only give a response that corresponds with our own personal beliefs and hopes. If one’s belief gives them comfort, then that’s fine, but to say with any certainty that you do know what happens when you die, is being fanciful in the extreme.

I am not religious although I was brought up in the Catholic faith and went to a Catholic school, but would describe myself more along the lines of being a spiritual person. However, I have spent time over the years reading about the various religions. The Abrahamic religions … Christianity, Judaism and Islam believe when you die, the soul (mind) lives on. On the other hand, the major Eastern religions Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism, and Sikhism believe in reincarnation.

I believe the same as the Abrahamic religions, I do believe the soul moves on to our next stage of the cycle…I see no point in reincarnation and I mean no disrespect to those who do.

So the question: what do I think what happens when I die? Well, I don’t know..we shall never know until we experience it…but I’ll say this, I am excited to find out!

Mentioning that I accept evolution and not creationism might explain why I believe in the continuation of 'life' after our physical bodies die...
 
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I don't think we exist after we die. There doesn't seem to be any reason to think we would. Humans like to feel like they understand things and have some control. There used to be fanciful stories to explain scary natural phenomena such as thunder, and I think religious beliefs are just like that, fanciful stories we've told each other to provide comfort, hope, and a feeling of control over things we can't control (and to try to control other people's behavior in ways that fortify society).
 
If I murder 100 people and never get caught by the police and die, if I am wrong about an afterlife, I lose. If there is no afterlife and murder 100 people, I win?

Belief in a final punishment is what most people fear, or there would be thousands of murders/rapes a day, you think? If I base my life believing in God and have an eternal soul, and am wrong, I lose nothing, but that's a pair of dice I do not wish to roll.

Not commenting on any final judgment's of anyone, but rapists and murders do not worry about an eternal soul, Hitler didn't.
 
I agree with you ohioboy about people like Hitler and evil murderers not being punished after they die but apparently the theory of reincarnation, which I know absolutely nothing about, tells a different story, one that sounds like a better alternative.

................In the Hindu faith as well as in Buddhism and Jainism and Sikhism, this reincarnation is determined by one’s karma from one’s previous life.

If your soul and body were kind, then your atman will be reincarnated into a higher form of being. The Hindu caste system unfortunately fits into this belief. It is possible that if one’s atman had bad karma that it could be reborn as an animal (hence the regard for cows) but in general people are reborn as people, not bugs.............

https://www.kenoshanews.com/lifesty...cle_e5d9f586-b7a7-5701-831d-3ed18d103c90.html

 

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