For anti-mask people

Nobody *wants* to wear a mask. Nobody gets up in the morning and crows, "Whoopee! Another fine day of clapping a piece of cloth to my face and fogging up my glasses and smelling my own halitosis and nobody will understand what I'm saying!" Nobody says, "Wow, this is great.....it's the nearest thing to waterboarding I can arrange!"

BUT, it's what we have to do to get through this and 99% of those who say they *can't* wear a mask.....CAN. They just don't *want* to.

People, wear your masks.....or stay home.

OK, I'm off the soapbox.
 

My sister and I were talking about seeing each other this fall. Hopefully I will feel safe to fly again. But I will be masked at all times and she will be too. Would love to be able to visit the little shops in my home town again for probably the last time. We will see. Safety will be our priority!
 
Becky1951 said:
And those whom their Dr's have advised against getting the vaccine due to health issues?
I guess they should just keep their butts home also? 🙄
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No, but they'll be at risk when mask mandates are lifted and the virus is still circulating, which it surely will for years - if not decades - to come.

My friend had a double lung transplant in 2020 and is therefore at great risk for infections due to the immunosuppressive drugs he must take daily. At the direction of his personal doctor and the head of his transplant team he was fully vaccinated and had no adverse reactions.
 
Becky1951 said:
And those whom their Dr's have advised against getting the vaccine due to health issues?
I guess they should just keep their butts home also? 🙄
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If you look at the list of Pre-existing conditions, and the risks of these vaccines....per the CDC...probably Half of our population is at risk for adverse reactions. However, based upon the results, so far, a fraction of 1% of those receiving the vaccine have experienced little more than a minor pain in the arm. If a person is so ill that they cannot withstand these vaccines, they are probably already in pretty bad shape....and are nearly an invalid. If they can still get to the stores, and take a daily walk, etc., the odds of these vaccines harming them are far less than the illness.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/need-extra-precautions/people-with-medical-conditions.html

IMO. people have a "Moral" obligation to do their small part to help lessen the spread of this pandemic.
 
I guess I'm just in a mood to defend those who have few choices left.

It's as if no compassion is left anymore. Oh well, there so sick what's the difference what they die from? They could have a few years left, but hey let's give em a shot and toss a coin. 😥

If the vaccine is proven beyond any doubts that no one who was vaccinated can spread the virus then the few who are at risk of dying from a Covid vaccine could easily go about living somewhat a normal life by still wearing a mask.

But that's yet to be proven that it stops the spread.
I'm just appalled at the lack of compassion for those who would be risking their lives if they did get vaccinated.

So what if it's just a small number of people, those people matter. They are not just numbers. But that's exactly what they seem to be to those who spout the ratio of those who have severe health issues and would die or live if they were vaccinated.

But as long as its someone else who cares right?

I guess I let others delimanas and problems bother me to much. I suffer from compassion.
 
My son is associated with some hardcore mountain biking mucho macho idiots who say that if you wear a mask you are a sissy and if you catch the virus you are weak. Great bunch of guys . . . :mad:
 
And....for those who think I'm an anti-vaccine person, you haven't read my other posts.

I plan on getting the J&J vaccine after it's been widely distributed and about 6 weeks have gone by, so we know its safety.

That shouldn't be long from now.
 
StarSong said:
I guess that's when we'll learn what percentage of adults won't (or can't) be vaccinated. If it's more than 25%, and/or proof of vaccination isn't made mandatory for international travelers, we may be wearing masks for a long time to come.
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Have read that those who have had covid also count toward herd immunity, so if you add those to the "jabbed", we might be able to achieve it:

https://www.mediamatters.org/laura-...s-may-not-be-necessary-north-and-south-dakota
 
Perhaps so, @Liberty. However, despite having had Covid, I'm not counting on those antibodies to carry me through, nor to protect me from variants.

Rita Wilson, who had Covid a year ago and participated in a UCLA study to see how long Covid antibodies remain in the blood of those who'd been infected, publicly disclosed that 11 months after being sick her antibodies were gone.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/me...dies-11-months-after-getting-sick/ar-BB1bBHMf
 
I'm not a real anti-masker, I don't care much for wearing the mask, but I wear one when I have to and I take it off when I can. I do think that not near enough has been done to promote healthy life styles during the pandemic other than hand washing and social distancing. Things like taking immune system boosting vitamins and supplements, eating a healthy diet and getting plenty of sunshine and exercise were not encouraged enough and people staying inside their homes all the time led to some unhealthy families that now do need to be vaccinated against covid. My wife and I also have no plans to get the vaccine, but we are certainly not against anyone else being vaccinated, we each need to stay well informed and make the choices that are right for ourselves.
 
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I wear the mask when necessary, in spite of having had both shots over a month ago. When I asked why, the explanation I got was that I can't get the disease, but I can still carry the virus and spread it to anyone who is not vaccinated. So, the people who are not receiving the vaccine are assuming the risk for themselves, and counting on everyone else wearing a mask. If they already have preexisting medical conditions severe enough to prevent them from surviving the vaccine, they are probably running an even bigger risk of dying if they do get the disease. That's a decision that everyone has to make for themselves.
 
Sunny said:
I wear the mask when necessary, in spite of having had both shots over a month ago. When I asked why, the explanation I got was that I can't get the disease, but I can still carry the virus and spread it to anyone who is not vaccinated. So, the people who are not receiving the vaccine are assuming the risk for themselves, and counting on everyone else wearing a mask. If they already have preexisting medical conditions severe enough to prevent them from surviving the vaccine, they are probably running an even bigger risk of dying if they do get the disease. That's a decision that everyone has to make for themselves.
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The way I understand it, even after being vaccinated, you can still catch covid-19, but you won't have severe symptoms. Some of the vaccine manufacturers are claiming 100% protection from hospitalization from symptoms -- a claim of which I'm highly skeptical. Maybe 99%, but nothing is 100% effective. We shall see, I guess.

So if you're vaccinated, covid-19 is about a dangerous to you as the flu, but you can still spread it, and if you spread it to unvaccinated people, it can put them in the hospital or kill them. Eventually, everybody is going to catch covid-19, but it's only going to kill the unvaccinated.
 

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