Heart Attack or Stroke Suggestions

Gaer

Gaer

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DRINK WATER INSTANTLY.
START DEEP COUGHING BEFORE YOU PASS OUT. This forces deep breathing that oxygenates.
PUT CAYENNE PEPPER UNDER THE TONGUE. This opens up the capillary blood flows.
LAY THE PERSON ON HIS OR HER BACK, GRAB THE ANKLES, RAISE THE LEGS UP AND SWING BACK AND FORTH LEFT TO RIGHT REPEATEDLY.

You guys probably already know all this, but thought I'd remind you.
 

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@Gaer, do you have a link for these suggestions. I’ve never heard of them.
 

Jules said:
@Gaer, do you have a link for these suggestions. I’ve never heard of them.
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No, Sorry! I clipped an article from a magazine years ago, stuck it in a drawer and forgot about it. (I think it was Reader's Digest).
I was sorting out some papers today and just found this again. Stuff to do immediatly! Just thought someone might find it helpful.
 
Gaer said:
DRINK WATER INSTANTLY.
START DEEP COUGHING BEFORE YOU PASS OUT. This forces deep breathing that oxygenates.
PUT CAYENNE PEPPER UNDER THE TONGUE. This opens up the capillary blood flows.
LAY THE PERSON ON HIS OR HER BACK, GRAB THE ANKLES, RAISE THE LEGS UP AND SWING BACK AND FORTH LEFT TO RIGHT REPEATEDLY.

You guys probably already know all this, but thought I'd remind you.
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Gaer said:
DRINK WATER INSTANTLY.
START DEEP COUGHING BEFORE YOU PASS OUT. This forces deep breathing that oxygenates.
PUT CAYENNE PEPPER UNDER THE TONGUE. This opens up the capillary blood flows.
LAY THE PERSON ON HIS OR HER BACK, GRAB THE ANKLES, RAISE THE LEGS UP AND SWING BACK AND FORTH LEFT TO RIGHT REPEATEDLY.

You guys probably already know all this, but thought I'd remind you.
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What I find odd about this is that the article starts out sounding like it’s info for yourself
1/. Drink water is only something you can give yourself since you have to swallow it
2/. Start coughing before YOU pass out
3/. Put cayenne pepper under the tongue sounds like it’s for you
4/. Lay the person on his or her back now and grab the angles back and forth sounds like this is info in helping another person which is weird

So is it for self or is it help for another?
 
OK! Just forwarded the info because I thought when moments count, it would be helpful. Didn't know you all would have such adverse reactions to helpful suggestions!
Sorry I even mentioned it!
I'm outta here!
 
I read somewhere that to determine if a person is actually having a stroke is to ask them to stick their tongue out straight. Apparently (and as I'm not a medical expert I can't authenticate this) someone having a stroke can't stick their tongue out straight. Also asking them to repeat a 5-word sentence after you is also something you can do.

In my opinion, though, any suspicion of a heart attack or stroke warrants a 911 call. Better safe than sorry.
 
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Gaer said:
OK! Just forwarded the info because I thought when moments count, it would be helpful. Didn't know you all would have such adverse reactions to helpful suggestions!
Sorry I even mentioned it!
I'm outta here!
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My reaction was anything but adverse.
I merely questioned the wording of it.
It is a discussion forum after all for discussing things. There’s no need to try and guilt anyone out for questioning what appears to be emergency help for heart attack or stroke
 
I know that if you're feeling pain in your chest and suspect it may be a heart attack, to take a couple of aspirins immediately before calling for help. I keep a sample pack of aspirin in my wallet just in case, but I generally do not take aspirin for anything.

I know strokes can be caused by excessive calcium blocking the arteries, I have discontinued any calcium supplements and have started using a vitamin k2 supplement decades ago to help the calcium in the system go to the bones instead of the arteries.

Suggestions in the OP sound a bit questionable to me, maybe they aren't, would like to see a link also.
 
Nathan said:
Some suggestions for lessening the likelihood of having heart attacks or strokes:
Lifestyle changes:
1.Lose weight
2.Quit smoking...!
3.Be sparing with NSAIDs, if at all possible.

Here is an article from AARPs magazine that appeared last year, I would mark it "Very important":

https://www.aarp.org/health/conditi.../lowering-inflammation-to-improve-health.html
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Ecellent advice Nathan and I would add "Keep Positive" ... one of the main reasons people have strokes and heart attacks is negativity and stress.
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Gaer said:
DRINK WATER INSTANTLY.
START DEEP COUGHING BEFORE YOU PASS OUT. This forces deep breathing that oxygenates.
PUT CAYENNE PEPPER UNDER THE TONGUE. This opens up the capillary blood flows.
LAY THE PERSON ON HIS OR HER BACK, GRAB THE ANKLES, RAISE THE LEGS UP AND SWING BACK AND FORTH LEFT TO RIGHT REPEATEDLY.

You guys probably already know all this, but thought I'd remind you.
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All of that is utter balderdash!! For your own safety people, do not adhere to this so called "advice."
No one has time to hunt around for cayenne or anything else. Get the person to the hospital at once....call the paramedics!!!
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Gaer said:
OK! Just forwarded the info because I thought when moments count, it would be helpful. Didn't know you all would have such adverse reactions to helpful suggestions!
Sorry I even mentioned it!
I'm outta here!
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When "moments count"... you call the paramedics pronto...or you die!!!
 
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What to do if you or someone else may be having a heart attack

Call 911 or your local emergency number. Don't ignore the symptoms of a heart attack. If you can't get an ambulance or emergency vehicle to come to you, have a neighbor or a friend drive you to the nearest hospital. Drive yourself only if you have no other option. Because your condition can worsen, driving yourself puts you and others at risk.

Chew and swallow an aspirin while waiting for emergency help. Aspirin helps keep your blood from clotting. When taken during a heart attack, it could reduce heart damage. Don't take aspirin if you are allergic to it or have been told by your doctor never to take aspirin.

Take nitroglycerin, if prescribed. If you think you're having a heart attack and your doctor has previously prescribed nitroglycerin for you, take it as directed while waiting for emergency medical help.

Begin CPR if the person is unconscious. If the person isn't breathing or you don't find a pulse, begin CPR to keep blood flowing after you call for emergency medical help.

Push hard and fast on the center of the person's chest in a fairly rapid rhythm — about 100 to 120 compressions a minute.

If an automated external defibrillator (AED) is immediately available and the person is unconscious, follow the device instructions for using it.

Source: Mayo Clinic...and everywhere else!
 
Keesha said:
My reaction was anything but adverse.
I merely questioned the wording of it.
It is a discussion forum after all for discussing things. There’s no need to try and guilt anyone out for questioning what appears to be emergency help for heart attack or stroke
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Nothing to do with guilt...people should not give health information if they haven't a clue :(
 
Take preventive measures to lessen the chance of it happening in the first place. Your blood pressure is a big determining factor. My neighbor had told me that his doctor could not get his blood pressure down. He got a stroke and is in sad shape. My father didn't believe in doctors and got a stroke or two. One messed up his vision. The last one did him in at the age of 80.

My blood pressure went up from my last doctor visit so Losartan was added to the Doxazosin I was already taking. It has gone down thankfully.

Add to that what Nathan wrote.
 
Nathan said:
Some suggestions for lessening the likelihood of having heart attacks or strokes:
Lifestyle changes:
1.Lose weight
2.Quit smoking...!
3.Be sparing with NSAIDs, if at all possible.

Here is an article from AARPs magazine that appeared last year, I would mark it "Very important":

https://www.aarp.org/health/conditi.../lowering-inflammation-to-improve-health.html
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Makes sense. I didn't read the article but #4 ( for some of us) would be to change your parentage. Some families have "built in" problems that pass on through the generations. My expectations weren't too good when I was a bit younger. Both of my folks passed from natural causes when they were 65 and 66, along with a good portion of my dad's family. Heart problems struck my dad (as I mentioned), his brother at 52, and my grandfather at 57.

I'm 87 and tomorrow may be my last day but I'm still amazed that I've lasted this long. :)
 
DaveA said:
Makes sense. I didn't read the article but #4 ( for some of us) would be to change your parentage. Some families have "built in" problems that pass on through the generations. My expectations weren't too good when I was a bit younger. Both of my folks passed from natural causes when they were 65 and 66, along with a good portion of my dad's family. Heart problems struck my dad (as I mentioned), his brother at 52, and my grandfather at 57.

I'm 87 and tomorrow may be my last day but I'm still amazed that I've lasted this long. :)
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Wow! You sure beats the odds despite your genetics. Good for you. 👍
 

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