Ghost Guns

Don M.

Don M.

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central Missouri
I've owned several firearms for many years, but recent news about all these recent killings, and potential actions by the government to change the rules of gun ownership brought a new term, "Ghost Guns", to my attention. I don't recall ever hearing that "name" before. I looked it up on the Internet, and was a bit surprised. It appears that its possible to buy a pistol or assault rifle "clone" in kit form, and put it together yourself, and have a nearly untraceable weapon. I wonder how many hundreds, or thousands of these have been sold to individuals that may have some Ulterior motives.

I'm not a real fan of most of the gun control measures that have been proposed in the past, But getting rid of these would have my full support. One of the sites I looked at appears to be completely Sold Out.

https://www.ghostrifles.com/build-kits/
 

Until I read this, I had not the slightest what a "ghost gun" was.

My opinion looking in from the outside (as a Canuck), the second amendment IMO has done a marvelous job in promoting gun crime in the USofA, and removing ghost guns from the system would be like pulling Pespi from the soda rack at the store, futile.

Consumers will reach for the alternative and life will carry on just the same.

IMO, gun ownership and gun related crime in the USofA is beyond repair, and banning or restricting ghost guns isn't going to fix it.
 
IMO, This is just the beginning. This is just a foot in the door for gun registration and gun confiscation.
It DOES infringe on the 2nd amendment!
This will start small and expand to full blown confiscation and people won't even pay attention to it.
This is why we must be opposed to any of these regulations. We must protect the 2nd amendment!
We must protect the Constitution and the Bill of Rights!
 
Parts may be available, but the frame of every gun has to have a serial number. That's why frames have to be registered - even if it's the only part someone is buying. A gun can't fire without the frame.

Example: Several years ago, Glock had an upgrade/recall on their frames because on some pistols, one of the rails would crack when high-pressure ammo was fired.
I had to ship my frames (alone) through a Federally-licensed dealer for replacement. My replacement frames could not be shipped directly to me; they had to be shipped to a licensed dealer & I had to re-register the frames, pay $50.00 registration fees on each one & wait 10 days & have another detailed background check, even though they were only frames.
 
There are people turning out 3D Printed Guns.

Not only do they evade gun-control, they evade forensic ballistics.

Example: I'm going to fashion a nylon pistol on my 3D Printer, do someone in, then melt down or burn my gun when I'm done.
 
Aunt Marg said:
There are people turning out 3D Printed Guns.

Not only do they evade gun-control, they evade forensic ballistics.

Example: I'm going to fashion a nylon pistol on my 3D Printer, do someone in, then melt down or burn my gun when I'm done.
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Make sure to fire it by remote control when you're far away from it.
Shrapnel can be deadly. :giggle:
 
MarciKS said:
Seems like no matter what we do...someone always finds a way around the law.
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Fyi: building a firearm is not against the law. There is no law that says you have to register a weapon...in U.S., not including California...CA has it's own set of rules.
 
I had a numbered frame of a Colt 45 and all the parts with instructions to put it together that belonged to my late husband. He was going to put it all together. (The Peacemaker) he had ordered all the parts on-line and it was ready to assemble.
I had no desire to assemble it so I sold it. Kinda wish now, I would have kept it.
 
I'm not against guns in kit form.

If the finished gun would require some form of background check, licensing, or registration the kit to make it should fall under those same requirements.
 
Ever hear of a zip gun? It's an improvised firearm made of available materials. As kids, we wanted to make one from the antenna of a junk vehicle sitting in a junk yard, but the owner caught us. The antenna would have been the barrel for a .22 shell. I never ran so fast. We meant no harm if we had made one...just a couple kids fooling around.
 
Aunt Marg said:
IMO, gun ownership and gun related crime in the USofA is beyond repair, and banning or restricting ghost guns isn't going to fix it.
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Well I think the government needs to keep trying nonetheless. Just because prison recidivism is sky high doesn't mean we should give up on punishing/correcting criminals.

Our culture needs to change, too many sick minded [mostly young males] trying to boost their weak self-esteem going out and acquiring assault rifles to prove their manhood. Here's a thought: if you want to handle weapons and boost your ego, join the military and go fight for our country somewhere, instead of terrorizing and killing innocent citizens.
 
I admit I don't like guns. I don't think it's a great idea to put weapons into people hands. And I don't buy that all gun owners are responsible people. I live in PA., and every year I used to go to all night drinking parties on the eve of deer hunting season. I've seen guys, drunk on their ass, heading off through the woods. And just because someone is sane today, does not mean he'll be that tomorrow. You've heard "guns don't kill, people do". Well, if you follow that logic atomic bombs don't kill, people do, so everybody aught to be able to have their own nuke? I'm sorry, nobody is going to convince me that the more weapons we have the less they will be used.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
I admit I don't like guns. I don't think it's a great idea to put weapons into people hands. And I don't buy that all gun owners are responsible people.
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Certainly not all guns owners are responsible people, and not all gun owners are irresponsible either, just like not all drivers are responsible. There are idiots, and criminals, that both own guns and drive, legally AND illegally.
 
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