CDC Will Not Investigate Mild Infections in Vaccinated

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The C.D.C. won’t investigate all post-vaccine infections, just those that result in hospitalizations or deaths. Federal health officials have stopped investigating breakthrough coronavirus infections in vaccinated people unless the cases cause serious disease that leads to a hospitalization or a death.

The Centers for Disease Control, which announced its decision earlier this month, will continue to gather data about mild breakthrough cases that are reported to the agency voluntarily by local health departments, but will only investigate the most serious cases of breakthrough infections — about one in 10. Until May, the agency was monitoring all cases.

A report issued Tuesday said that as of the end of April, when some 101 million Americans had been vaccinated, the agency had received 10,261 reports of breakthrough infections from 46 states and territories, a figure it said was probably a “substantial undercount.” Of those, 995 people were known to have been hospitalized, and 160 had died, though not all as a direct result of Covid-19, the new study said. Although the agency will continue to carry out vaccine effectiveness studies, it will focus on specific populations like health care workers, essential workers, the elderly and residents of long-term care facilities, a C.D.C. spokeswoman said.

Some scientists have criticized the retrenchment, saying it is wasting an opportunity to learn about the real-world effectiveness of different vaccines and to pick up on when vaccine protection begins to wane, whether variants play a significant role in breakthrough infections, and whether some patients are more susceptible than others to a post-vaccine infection. “We are driving blind, and we will miss a lot of signals,” said Ali Mokdad, an epidemiologist at the University of Washington who spent many years as a senior scientist at the C.D.C. “The C.D.C. is a surveillance agency,” Dr. Mokdad said. “How can you do surveillance and pick one number and not look at the whole?”

But other scientists said they support the C.D.C.’s pivot to concentrate on the most serious cases. “We have to prioritize what we’re doing, and the priority is to understand the cases associated with severe disease,” said Dr. Kathryn Edwards, a professor of pediatrics in the division of infectious diseases at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine who studies vaccine safety and effectiveness. Some people who were infected with the virus when they thought they were protected by the vaccine are troubled by the lack of interest in their cases. “Don’t people want to know about this?” asked Julie Cohn, a 43-year-old mother from Short Hills NJ., who was infected after she was fully vaccinated, and is still suffering lingering effects of Covid-19 nearly two months later. “Where do people like me go? What happens next? The practitioners in my life have been shocked and are trying to figure out how to move forward, but there are so many questions. And if no one is studying this, there won’t be answers.”

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/05/25/world/covid-vaccine-coronavirus-mask.amp.html
 

If a small fraction of people who get vaccinated suffer negative results from these vaccines....versus the vast majority who get a high degree of protection by getting vaccinated, the Rewards far outweigh the risks, IMO.

If you pay any attention to these endless "ask your doctor" drug commercials, you should recognize that NO vaccine or drug is 100% safe.
 
If a small fraction of people who get vaccinated suffer negative results from these vaccines....versus the vast majority who get a high degree of protection by getting vaccinated, the Rewards far outweigh the risks, IMO.

If you pay any attention to these endless "ask your doctor" drug commercials, you should recognize that NO vaccine or drug is 100% safe.
Yes we all know that no vaccine is 100% effective.

But why is it not important to investigate the breakthrough cases unless they end up hospitalized or dead?

How many people are walking around feeling like they have armor on due to being vaccinated? How many do they in turn infect others, even those who have been vaccinated?

If they find the why, maybe they can find a way to adjust the vaccines to prevent so many breakthrough cases.

I think they stopped reporting breakthrough cases due to preventing the public from doubting the effectiveness of the vaccine.

Yes now throw all those numbers at me showing how effective the vaccine is.

That still doesn't discount that the numbers are rising in breakthrough cases, even hospitalized and deaths of those who have been vaccinated.
 

Yes money always wins doesn't it.
Anything in limited supply has to be prioritized, money included.

If they find the why, maybe they can find a way to adjust the vaccines to prevent so many breakthrough cases.
Tweak the vaccines? Imagine the hue and cry if that happened!

Yes now throw all those numbers at me showing how effective the vaccine is

Well, of course. That's rather the point of the vaccine, isn't it?

The evidence is indisputable that there are far fewer cases and deaths among vaccinated than non-vaccinated people. The more people who get vaccinated, the further these numbers will drop.
 
Yes we all know that no vaccine is 100% effective.

But why is it not important to investigate the breakthrough cases unless they end up hospitalized or dead?

How many people are walking around feeling like they have armor on due to being vaccinated? How many do they in turn infect others, even those who have been vaccinated?

If they find the why, maybe they can find a way to adjust the vaccines to prevent so many breakthrough cases.

I think they stopped reporting breakthrough cases due to preventing the public from doubting the effectiveness of the vaccine.

Yes now throw all those numbers at me showing how effective the vaccine is.

That still doesn't discount that the numbers are rising in breakthrough cases, even hospitalized and deaths of those who have been vaccinated.
I wasn't able to read the article, Becky. Does it say anything about studies being done by experts/immunologists (or whatever) who aren't doing it under the CDC? Even if the article doesn't mention it, I assume there will be independent studies. After all, a pharmaceutical company would profit greatly if they came up with a better, safer vaccine.
 
I wasn't able to read the article, Becky. Does it say anything about studies being done by experts/immunologists (or whatever) who aren't doing it under the CDC? Even if the article doesn't mention it, I assume there will be independent studies. After all, a pharmaceutical company would profit greatly if they came up with a better, safer vaccine.
No nothing mentioned about any other studies being done.
 

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