Over 200 Children's Bodies Found At Old Indigenous People's School In Canada

They should, and it shouldn't come at the expense of the general public (tax payers).

Those who are tied to the disgrace should have their bank accounts and properties seized to finance the search, and then maybe in the future we won't have to witness such again.
That won’t ever happen. This is the government you are talking about. They just point the finger elsewhere. I think it will take decades IF they ever admit to a mistake this horrible. The main word in there being IF.
 
You do know that happened in the US as well, one glaring problem for the Hopi's was that the children in the schools were boys and girls together in the same classroom, something that appalled the parents because they felt the white people were without any morals. They tried to hide their children from the government, but failed at that. Then the children were taught to be ashamed of their culture, and their families.
 
We were shamed and beaten if we dared to bring a sandwich for lunch that contained meat
on a Friday ..not just Good Friday , and not only that the Punishment was carried out as an example in front of the entire class to set an example what would happen to them if they dared to do the same thing , so Im horrified to think of what happened to children in orphanages / institutions anywhere that were run by nuns including such places in Australia .

The abuse suffered by children at the hands of churches / institutions is currently costing our federal government many millions of $$$$ under the compo scheme for sex / emotional/ violent abuse of totally defenceless children at the hands of the CRIMINALS who handed out .
For any who can PROVE :eek:
they attended school/ or lived in the institution it’s apparently a very stressful process of about 2 years .
 
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UN calls on Canada and the Catholic Church to investigate after a mass grave of 215 Indigenous children was discovered at a residential school in British Columbia.

United Nations rights experts have called on Canada and the Catholic Church to carry out thorough investigations after the remains of Indigenous children were found at a former residential school, as the Canadian prime minister blasted the church for ignoring its past crimes.

A mass grave of 215 Indigenous children was discovered last month at Kamloops residential school in British Columbia, which operated between 1890 and 1978 under the auspices of the Catholic Church and later the Canadian government.

“We urge the authorities to conduct full-fledged investigations into the circumstances and responsibilities surrounding these deaths, including forensic examinations of the remains found, and to proceed to the identification and registration of the missing children,” nine UN human rights experts said in a statement on Friday.

They called on the Canadian government to conduct similar investigations into all of the country’s former residential schools, which were set up to forcibly assimilate Indigenous children.

According to the statement, criminal investigations should also be launched into all allegations of suspicious deaths, and claims of torture and sexual violence against children at the schools, they said.

Perpetrators and concealers who may still be alive should be prosecuted and sanctioned, the UN experts said, adding that it was “inconceivable” that Canada and the Vatican would leave such “heinous crimes” unaccounted for and without redress.

On Friday, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau urged the Catholic Church to “take responsibility” and release records on Indigenous residential schools under its direction.

He warned that his government was prepared to take “stronger measures,” possibly including legal action, to obtain the documents demanded by victims’ families if the church failed to comply.

“As a Catholic, I am deeply disappointed by the position that the Catholic Church has taken now and over the past many years,” Trudeau told a news conference.

He recalled a May 2017 trip to the Vatican, during which he sought a formal apology from Pope Francis for abuses of students, as well as access to church records to help account for more than 4,100 students believed to have died from disease or malnutrition.

“We’re still seeing resistance from the church,”
Trudeau said.

When asked if the government might compel disclosure, the prime minister responded: “I think, if it is necessary, we will take stronger measures.”

But he added: “Before we have to start taking the Catholic Church to court, I am very hopeful that religious leaders will understand that this is something they need to participate in.”

Danielle Morrison, a lawyer and member of the Anishinaabe Nation, told Al Jazeera that the Canadian government was expected to take action against the church at this point.

She said that there had been calls for decades to compel the Roman Catholic Church to release its archives, and identify and convict any living suspects who had committed crimes against Indigenous people.

“At this point, given the fact that the world is watching, they [the government] really don’t have a choice but to either take legal action or denounce the Catholic Church,” she added.

Canada has been convulsed by the discovery of the remains at the school, especially as there were only 50 deaths officially on record there.

The school was one of many boarding schools set up a century ago to forcibly assimilate the country’s Indigenous peoples.

Trudeau urged Canadian Catholics to “reach out (to their) local parishes, to bishops and cardinals, and make it clear that we expect the church to step up and take responsibility for its role in this and be there to help in the grieving and the healing, including with records.”
“It’s something a number of other churches … have done. It’s something we are all still waiting for the Catholic Church to do,” he said.

“We need to have truth before we can talk about justice, healing and reconciliation.”

Some 150,000 First Nations, Inuit and Metis children in total were enrolled in 139 of these residential schools across Canada, where students were physically and sexually abused by headmasters and teachers who stripped them of their culture and language.

Those experiences are blamed now for a high incidence of poverty, alcoholism and domestic violence, as well as high suicide rates, in Indigenous communities.

In Kamloops, Tk’emlups te Secwepemc chief Rosanne Casimir, who has enlisted the help of the British Columbia coroner to help identify students’ remains and causes of deaths, told reporters the tribe had never received any records from the Oblates of Mary Immaculate who ran the school.

“We do want an apology” from the church, she said, “a public apology, not just for us, but for the world … holding the church to account.”

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THIS, is why I do not allow religion into my life (religion is NOT welcome in my life or at my front door), nor do I live my life around religion! :mad:

I say take legal action AND denounce the Catholic Church! Time to stand up Canada! :mad:
 
In Kamloops, Tk’emlups te Secwepemc chief Rosanne Casimir, who has enlisted the help of the British Columbia coroner to help identify students’ remains and causes of deaths, told reporters the tribe had never received any records from the Oblates of Mary Immaculate who ran the school.

“We do want an apology” from the church, she said, “a public apology, not just for us, but for the world … holding the church to account
Casimir has been a good spokesperson.

One thing she did clarify, since the media like to use the word “mass”, is that there is an established cemetery at the school, just there were more graves than originally known.

Another report earlier, not Casmir, said that they believe those who died were reported to the Vatican and that there was no answer. Maybe now there will be.
 
Casimir has been a good spokesperson.

One thing she did clarify, since the media like to use the word “mass”, is that there is an established cemetery at the school, just there were more graves than originally known.

Another report earlier, not Casmir, said that they believe those who died were reported to the Vatican and that there was no answer. Maybe now there will be.
The last entry of your post, Jules, chaps my rear-end something fierce! :mad:
 
UN calls on Canada and the Catholic Church to investigate after a mass grave of 215 Indigenous children was discovered at a residential school in British Columbia.

United Nations rights experts have called on Canada and the Catholic Church to carry out thorough investigations after the remains of Indigenous children were found at a former residential school, as the Canadian prime minister blasted the church for ignoring its past crimes.

A mass grave of 215 Indigenous children was discovered last month at Kamloops residential school in British Columbia, which operated between 1890 and 1978 under the auspices of the Catholic Church and later the Canadian government.

“We urge the authorities to conduct full-fledged investigations into the circumstances and responsibilities surrounding these deaths, including forensic examinations of the remains found, and to proceed to the identification and registration of the missing children,” nine UN human rights experts said in a statement on Friday.

They called on the Canadian government to conduct similar investigations into all of the country’s former residential schools, which were set up to forcibly assimilate Indigenous children.

According to the statement, criminal investigations should also be launched into all allegations of suspicious deaths, and claims of torture and sexual violence against children at the schools, they said.

Perpetrators and concealers who may still be alive should be prosecuted and sanctioned, the UN experts said, adding that it was “inconceivable” that Canada and the Vatican would leave such “heinous crimes” unaccounted for and without redress.

On Friday, Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau urged the Catholic Church to “take responsibility” and release records on Indigenous residential schools under its direction.

He warned that his government was prepared to take “stronger measures,” possibly including legal action, to obtain the documents demanded by victims’ families if the church failed to comply.

“As a Catholic, I am deeply disappointed by the position that the Catholic Church has taken now and over the past many years,” Trudeau told a news conference.

He recalled a May 2017 trip to the Vatican, during which he sought a formal apology from Pope Francis for abuses of students, as well as access to church records to help account for more than 4,100 students believed to have died from disease or malnutrition.

“We’re still seeing resistance from the church,”
Trudeau said.

When asked if the government might compel disclosure, the prime minister responded: “I think, if it is necessary, we will take stronger measures.”

But he added: “Before we have to start taking the Catholic Church to court, I am very hopeful that religious leaders will understand that this is something they need to participate in.”

Danielle Morrison, a lawyer and member of the Anishinaabe Nation, told Al Jazeera that the Canadian government was expected to take action against the church at this point.

She said that there had been calls for decades to compel the Roman Catholic Church to release its archives, and identify and convict any living suspects who had committed crimes against Indigenous people.

“At this point, given the fact that the world is watching, they [the government] really don’t have a choice but to either take legal action or denounce the Catholic Church,” she added.

Canada has been convulsed by the discovery of the remains at the school, especially as there were only 50 deaths officially on record there.

The school was one of many boarding schools set up a century ago to forcibly assimilate the country’s Indigenous peoples.

Trudeau urged Canadian Catholics to “reach out (to their) local parishes, to bishops and cardinals, and make it clear that we expect the church to step up and take responsibility for its role in this and be there to help in the grieving and the healing, including with records.”
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Although Trudeau asked for an apology from the Vatican in 2017 I thought he and the government in general were kind of slow after this story broke to comment on the churche's role. It's almost like they are trying to shift blame now. I get the impression they were hoping the story would go away after pointing out previous inquiries, commissions, apologies etc

Mid week the The Minister of Indigenous Peoples was under pressure to ask the church for an apology

https://www.wionews.com/world/lack-...-school-abuse-shameful-canada-minister-389104

Since the church conducted business day to day with their own boots on the ground so to speak yes they are responsible for the physical acts, abuses, policy etc. But who hired, contracted out or chose to use them. Who was supposed to over see them as the employer.

It's history now. Anything that can be done for any of the survivors of these schools including bringing to justice the perpatrators civil and/or criminal is where the focus needs to be.

The church apologizes good. But it's the information that's being requested that is just as important.
 
I don't care if he is considered the inventor/proponent of public schools he also pushed for segregated schools along with the Indigenous Peoples schools. The Canadian government/dept of Indian affairs basically defaulted to this guy with the residential schools
I 100% agree, WhatInThe!

Was pleasing to watch the statue fall.

Looking forward to seeing a new name grace the façade as well.
 
I 100% agree, WhatInThe!

Was pleasing to watch the statue fall.

Looking forward to seeing a new name grace the façade as well.
Not a fan of vandalism for protest but not restoring I agree with.

The could've formally removed or taken down the statue with a small ceremony and used the oppurtunity to educate the public on what he helped start. With wild protests the message will get lost and protestors written off.
 
Not a fan of vandalism for protest but not restoring I agree with.

The could've formally removed or taken down the statue with a small ceremony and used the oppurtunity to educate the public on what he helped start. With wild protests the message will get lost and protestors written off.
The way the indigenous peoples have been treated for so long... the anger, the frustration, the resentment, I am on their side to see them do whatever it takes to get noticed and make the world aware.

There comes a time when niceties achieve nothing.

Wish I could go on but don't want to get political.
 

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