Man plows his truck into bicycle racers

Irwin

Irwin

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The driver of a pickup truck hit a group of cyclists at a bicycle race in Show Low, Ariz., on Saturday, seriously injuring six people before the driver fled and was shot by the police, the authorities said.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/06/19/us/show-low-bike-race-crash-shooting-arizona.html

I'll never understand how somebody can do something like that. It's just completely illogical, like the mass shootings that aren't gang related. Something snaps in people and they do crazy things without considering the consequences.
 

I believe what we are seeing in all the mass killings and idiotic actions is just how frail man really is when pushed to the limit of tolerance.....
 
I see a lot of different factors at play, not to suggest violence is okay.

- Today's legal system is in the toilet, a joke, so no fear in breaking the law and/or engaging in violence, nothing more than a slap on the wrist and one is on their way, so more and more people are opting to act out and take out their aggressions/frustrations on others through violence.
- Violence has become the way, news reports/media is showing the world that, we're seeing it every single day
- Quality employment is becoming increasingly harder and harder to find and hold onto
- People have to work much longer
- Cost of living has reached stratospheric levels
- Debt loads out of control
- Marriages/relationships collapsing steadily
- More, more, more people on the planet and growing steadily day-by-day, no escaping crowds/highly populated areas
- People/society/the world, adopting more animalistic ways all the time, with morals and standards slipping lower and lower all the time
- Little respect, little class, most everything all show, real people becoming more and more rare

Nothing surprises me anymore related to violence, and because violence is chronic in today's day and age, I have become conditioned not to care. I hear of a tragic news event, it registers with me, but only briefly, then I move on often not giving the tragedy so much as a second thought. Que Sera, Sera.

He doesn't care, she doesn't care, they don't care... I don't care. Welcome to the new world.
 
ohioboy said:
You hit the roofing nail right on the head AM. Sad world we live in.
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Our world today is why I miss and crave the past so much.

Sure, violence has always plagued the world, our society, and satellite news and the internet has us all up to date seconds after violent or tragic events unfold, unlike in the past, but people were people back in the day, there was compassion, care, love, support... today, not so much.

Everyone (figuratively speaking) is out for themselves and it shows. Life today is based upon the shallowness of greed, materialism and power.

I've heard it before from others, how much they hated the times (back in the day)... the fact that everything was closed on Sundays, how technology was absent, non-existent compared to now, and the list goes on, but one thing remains undeniably true, and that is, people had more structured lives back in the day, they lived and worked around schedules, life was reduced... enjoyed and accomplished at a slower pace if you will, family time was for real, weekends for rest, and the world actually turned off it's lights when night fell.

Today's hustle and bustle, the rat-race to nowhere, stop, go, run, walk, cross, stand, sit, wait, mad scramble here, mad scramble there, no time for this, no time for that, something (sooner than later) had to give, and we are now seeing and experiencing the give. This is what happens when people are pushed to the brink.

Wages and incomes no longer keeping up with the cost of life, homes out of reach for the hard-working, jobs taking people farther and farther away from their loved ones, and everything revolving around the almighty dollar, just so people can survive... get by.

With each passing day the divide and gap between the ultra-rich and the ultra-poor grows, pushing what many of us remember as being the middle-class, to a point of no return.
 
Not making light of these situations at all but don’t you think the 24 hour media has a part in it?
I’ve lived my entire life in New York, different parts and for most of these years I had no clue what was going on in California,Oregon or wherever and didn’t feel it affected me in anyway.
Now it’s in our face nonstop and replayed over and over...
 
Aunt Marg said:
Aside from the man being held on a $10,000 bond, they should slap him with a $250,000 fine, and then toss his rear-end into the cooler for 6 months, and ban him from ever owning a firearm again.

Maybe it will send a message to the next simpleton that get's a hankering to pull his or her gun over something so childish and petty.
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Aggravated assault in Florida carries a maximum of 5 years in prison and only a $5,000.00 fine.


edit: it's a 3rd degree felony.
 
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Aunt Marg said:
- Today's legal system is in the toilet, a joke, so no fear in breaking the law and/or engaging in violence, nothing more than a slap on the wrist and one is on their way, so more and more people are opting to act out and take out their aggressions/frustrations on others through violence.
- Violence has become the way, news reports/media is showing the world that, we're seeing it every single day
- Quality employment is becoming increasingly harder and harder to find and hold onto
- People have to work much longer
- Cost of living has reached stratospheric levels
- Debt loads out of control
- Marriages/relationships collapsing steadily
- More, more, more people on the planet and growing steadily day-by-day, no escaping crowds/highly populated areas
- People/society/the world, adopting more animalistic ways all the time, with morals and standards slipping lower and lower all the time
- Little respect, little class, most everything all show, real people becoming more and more rare

Nothing surprises me anymore related to violence, and because violence is chronic in today's day and age, I have become conditioned not to care. I hear of a tragic news event, it registers with me, but only briefly, then I move on often not giving the tragedy so much as a second thought. Que Sera, Sera.

He doesn't care, she doesn't care, they don't care... I don't care. Welcome to the new world.
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Aunt Marg said:
Our world today is why I miss and crave the past so much.

Sure, violence has always plagued the world, our society, and satellite news and the internet has us all up to date seconds after violent or tragic events unfold, unlike in the past, but people were people back in the day, there was compassion, care, love, support... today, not so much.

Everyone (figuratively speaking) is out for themselves and it shows. Life today is based upon the shallowness of greed, materialism and power.

I've heard it before from others, how much they hated the times (back in the day)... the fact that everything was closed on Sundays, how technology was absent, non-existent compared to now, and the list goes on, but one thing remains undeniably true, and that is, people had more structured lives back in the day, they lived and worked around schedules, life was reduced... enjoyed and accomplished at a slower pace if you will, family time was for real, weekends for rest, and the world actually turned off it's lights when night fell.
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No truer words

I don't wish to offend any one or any thing, but its easy to see what's happening from a Christian standpoint.

Forgive me, I'm a Christian.....a struggling one, but none the less

Sends me to Matthew 24; 7 and 21-22

Open yer bible to it
Or...just google it...any version
 
A lot of people resent bicyclists and what they've gotten this century alone ie bike lanes. And many resent they ignore things like red lights. I've seen certain roads blocked off and 3 lane roads reduced to 2 for bike lanes. It was a nasty commute prior and worse after.

That being said it is a cowardly act to ram a 5K pound vehicle into 50 pound bike
 
Aunt Marg said:
Aside from the man being held on a $10,000 bond, they should slap him with a $250,000 fine, and then toss his rear-end into the cooler for 6 months, and ban him from ever owning a firearm again.

Maybe it will send a message to the next simpleton that get's a hankering to pull his or her gun over something so childish and petty.
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Brandishing a firearm in California(PC 417) is a "wobbler" meaning it can be either a misdemeanor or a felony. If a felony then the penalty can be up to 3 years in state prison.
 
I wasn't there so I can't comment on this particular situation, but bicyclists and even runners during a road race get in a "zone" where their consciousness is taken over and their focus is on what they are doing and not what's going on around them. I used to be one of them but hopefully I wasn't as bad as some could be. I drove around a curve once and there right in front of me were two bikers riding side by side oblivious to traffic behind. I could have run them over. I've seen 10K foot races with runners taking up half a lane and one runner throwing the finger at a motorist.
 
Chet said:
I wasn't there so I can't comment on this particular situation, but bicyclists and even runners during a road race get in a "zone" where their consciousness is taken over and their focus is on what they are doing and not what's going on around them. I used to be one of them but hopefully I wasn't as bad as some could be. I drove around a curve once and there right in front of me were two bikers riding side by side oblivious to traffic behind. I could have run them over. I've seen 10K foot races with runners taking up half a lane and one runner throwing the finger at a motorist.
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Yep, they can be self-centered, arrogant pricks. The worst ones are probably trust-fund babies.
 

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