Derek Chauvin's sentencing is tomorrow. What will it be?
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Only that percentage wise it's an epidemic of killing black as opposed to white.
Knight
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He was subdued. Normal would be to handcuff him, help him to his feet. As for sentence 20 years but the possibility for early release serving 12 max is my guess.
"Like it or not, George Floyd was innocent. It was the cops who committed a crime by arresting him without making any effort to ascertain whether he knew the bill was counterfeit. Had those criminal cops not violated the law George Floyd would be alive today and we would have had far less chaos last summer in the cities. Blame the stupid cops and the jackass politicians who coddle them for the problems. Don't blame the innocent."
To the contrary. If Floyd had lived, he would have probably gone on to rob & steal more & even kill people. I say any time a cop or even person that's being robbed kills an intruder or robber. Then we won't have to pay all the upkeep on them in & out of jail.
To the contrary. If Floyd had lived, he would have probably gone on to rob & steal more & even kill people. I say any time a cop or even person that's being robbed kills an intruder or robber. Then we won't have to pay all the upkeep on them in & out of jail.
OneEyedDiva
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THANK you! I so agree with your first paragraph. But as for your assumption that Mr. Floyd may have gone on to kill someone, we can't possibly know that, especially since at his age, he hadn't done so. I don't doubt the probability that he may have committed more crimes, however petty (in comparison to murder).
As for the OP: Some very interesting theories here about how much time Chauvin will get. Personally, I hope they put that Mickey Frickey under the jail for the rest of his life.
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Don M.
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The sentencing is being broadcast Live on Yahoo...I'm tuned in. It looks like he got 270 months....22.5 years,
Irwin
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That could be an argument in the thread about "the end justifying the means."
Police need to abide by the laws, more so than anyone else, since their job is to uphold the law. At times, laws are unjust or even unconstitutional, at which times the argument can be made under extreme conditions to break the law, but this was not one of those cases. Passing a counterfeit $20 is not so egregious an offense that it justifies the cop acting as judge, jury, and executioner. If we allowed that, we'd be living in a police state, which few of us want. That's not what our country is about.
Marie5656
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Judge sentences Derek Chauvin to over 22 years for murder of George Floyd
Crystal Hill
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Fri, June 25, 2021, 4:02 PM
Chauvin was not acting as any of those people. He was acting as a cop trying to subdue an unruly suspect so he could take him to court. The Cup Foods manager called the police for help. Just as the police don't get to be judge and jury, neither do they get to decide which calls to take, and they don't get to decide to simply let some suspects go because the crime they're accused of isn't that serious.
Chauvin will probably die in prison, so essentially he got life in prison for accidentally killing a suspect while trying to subdue him. He shouldn't have used the knee hold and he should have let up when Floyd stopped moving and talking, so I think he should have been convicted of manslaughter and I think he should have been sentenced to prison for that, but 22 years is too much.
She said, "Derek, you're my favorite son." His mother was making a little running joke that lots of mothers make when they only have one son. The joke didn't come off, but she seemed like a very nervous, shy woman. She was heartbroken to see her son going to prison.
I see the blood thirsty, angry mob outside the courthouse isn't satisfied. Someone here said that Christians teach "an eye for an eye." No, that's Old Testament law. Christ asked us to forgive and have mercy, even for murderers.
A jury of peers heard the case in a court of law and rendered a decision. Guilty of second degree murder. The judge read every written word sent to him from both sides relative to sentencing. Four family members of the deceased and one family member of the convicted spoke during the sentencing hearing. The judge took all that under advisement and returned with a decision. As he said, emotion cannot play a part in the sentence. The sentence must be adjudicated based on case law, written law, and specifics of the case. He rendered a 22 page thesis re the case law and the specifics of this case. Rather than read the entire document in court, he announced his findings.
This is how the justice system works. This is how the justice system is designed to work. This is how the justice system should work. Jury.... Verdict... if found guilty, sentence. The defendant will file an appeal and is entitled to that. Due to the history of violence towards police officers sent to maximum security prisons, Chauvin may have vigilante justice meted while incarcerated. Or, he may spend much of his incarceration in solitary to protect him.
We've experienced the first and the longest chapter in this specific case. There will be more chapters written.
This is how the justice system works. This is how the justice system is designed to work. This is how the justice system should work. Jury.... Verdict... if found guilty, sentence. The defendant will file an appeal and is entitled to that. Due to the history of violence towards police officers sent to maximum security prisons, Chauvin may have vigilante justice meted while incarcerated. Or, he may spend much of his incarceration in solitary to protect him.
We've experienced the first and the longest chapter in this specific case. There will be more chapters written.
oldiebutgoody
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According to the article " if one seriously considers the medical evidence, is that Derek Chauvin did not murder George Floyd" - that it was his heart that caused the death. Nothing could be more absurd. As the testimony from qualified experts said on the witness stand, it was the criminal actions of the cop that killed him.
oldiebutgoody
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I would have liked to see the killer cop get at least 30 years, but I assume the sentencing was fair. I understand there are some other felony charges he's facing, hopefully there will be some years added to his 22+. Chauvin's mother made me sick, no mention or sympathy for the black American killed by Chauvin or his family, just whining about her killer son.
Rest peacefully Mr. Floyd, condolences to his grieving family.
Rest peacefully Mr. Floyd, condolences to his grieving family.
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oldiebutgoody
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sentence: 22.5 years
As far as I'm concerned, that's a light tap on the wrist and a big kiss on the butt.
Hopefully after the federal trial more years will be added.
As far as I'm concerned, that's a light tap on the wrist and a big kiss on the butt.
Hopefully after the federal trial more years will be added.
That is a fact, it was not an accident. Anyone who followed the trial and listened to the witness testimony and saw the evidence knows that this murder was deliberate.
His mother. His wife left him five days after the event, proving she was a fair weather friend. He has no children. Now he's the most hated man in America. You know his lawyer wasn't making it up when he said all Derek does is think about that day and wish he could do it over.
oldiebutgoody
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He record has been clean since 2014. He worked for the Salvation Army which is a Christian organization.
By contrast, had Chauvin been on the streets he would be killing or maiming people.
Well, he can't. There are no do-overs and he had over nine minutes to think about what he was doing. No do-overs, what's done is done. Now he has 22.5 years to think about it. F him. You ever notice how long a minute can seem? Multiply that by nine and a half.
My mistake, I corrected it. Of course he wouldn't be his wife's son, that would be unusual. I don't blame his wife for anything she does, I could not be married to such a heartless killer. Yeah, I bet George Floyd and his family wishes the killer could go back and not kneel on his neck until he could no longer breathe, and keep on kneeling after there was no signs of breathing. Hopefully, Chauvin will spend more than 22.5 years in prison, after his other charges kick in, he deserves the maximum sentence for deliberate murder.
Exactly, he had plenty of time to decide if he was going to finish the killing, and he chose to take a life. Screw him and his heartless mother.
oldiebutgoody
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The really sad part is that Chauvin is qualified for probation after 15 years which means starting at age 60 he can collect his fat pension and live the life of Reilly laughing at all who demanded justice.
So you are playing judge, jury and prosecutor on this case? He did time for his crimes already.
For accidentally killing the suspect?
Kneeling on a persons neck for 9 minutes is no accident which is why this went to court and why he is going to prison.
Luckily he was given the opportunity of a judge & jury. Something Floyd never got.
That’d girl.
