Feminist Trends: “Are You Speaking To Me, Momma?”

Packerjohn said:
And I am not going to start on all those grandmas show the photos of those "oh so cute and wonderful" grandchildren. Sorry grandmas, I have noticed this over and over and over. For some reason men don't do this "oh, he/she is so cute" bit. I wonder why?
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Nothing really earth-shattering, it's just the difference between men and women.
 

Verisure said:
That doesn't make sense. I don't need to read "lots of discussion that goes on for pages" before I say what I have to say on my own thread and I don't need to ask what others think before I say what I think on my own thread.
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Good Lord. Don’t you remember? YOU ASKED!

I was answering YOUR question, ferchrissake! If you aren’t prepared for an answer, don’t ask the damn question! 🤦🏼‍♀️
 
It's too bad someone didn't start a thread about how bad cell-phone addiction is because I'd be all over that. My husband and I have noticed that babies seem to scream much louder than they used to and we figure that's probably because they've learned they have to up the decibels to get their parents' attention. I miss the days when strangers waiting to be seated in restaurants or shopping beside each other would strike up conversations with each other. At my doctor's office the other day I was the only person not staring down at my phone and it was a long, boring wait.

But this thread is about "Feminist Trends," and judging by the example it must be things like drinking coffee and having babies, I guess.

It can't be about women who think they're better than men. Those are misandrists not feminists. Feminists just want to be allowed to work at decent paying jobs, get medical procedures and bank accounts without having to get their husbands to sign for it, and be eligible for promotions

When I started out none of that was in place, I applied for a job as a bank teller and was told that their customers would never trust women to handle their money. I went to the local business school and tried to sign up for a drafting course because my father had already taught me that, and was told only men could take those courses, that women took typing. When I applied for the position of department manager at the K-Mart where I'd worked for years I was told women couldn't be managers because "men wont take orders from women." They hired a 16 year-old boy instead and encouraged him to bully us. We were all just trying to support out families.

Things are better now, but some men feel threatened by these small advances and consider that we are disgustingly selfish and ought to be ashamed of ourselves.
 

Verisure said:
Quite a few years ago I was at the park with my 3 and 4-year boys. It was equipped with several things for children to play on including a rope & wood slate bridge leading up to a spiral chute. I sat on the bench to watch my boys and to cheer them on. A woman arrived with her daughter, who was perhaps 4 year's old. The girl was eager to try out the spiral chute and was very excited, her face beaming as she navigated the bridge and looking to her mother for recognition. But no. The child's mother sat with legs crossed and a newspaper blocking her face from the world.
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How is this an example of feminism?
 
raybar said:
I've never see anyone dropping ashes on her baby, but there have been a number of times when I wanted to tell someone - predominantly women but not exclusively so - to put down the phone, pay attention to what you're doing, and maybe show a little awareness of the people around you.

The most memorable one was a woman who had an infant pressed against her with one arm while holding merchandise in that hand, had her cell phone in the other hand, set on speaker phone so everyone nearby could enjoy her conversation, and was trying to get small items off the shelves by extending a couple fingers of one hand or the other.
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Dropping ashes on the baby is not as bad as smoking with the baby in the car or in the house. Too bad such "mothers" can't be sterilized.
 
Judycat said:
The only time I was outraged at a parent's treatment of an infant was when one of my neighbors went speeding by on a four-wheeler, steering with one hand and clutching the baby over his elbow. He had the baby squeezed against his hip and the poor little thing's legs were bouncing up and down. I'm sure when his wife heard about it she whacked him good with a frying pan. Why we women marry idiots like that I don't know.
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Funny how your concern is with "Why women marry idiots."
A woman who marries an idiot is no less an idiot herself. And if she has kids with him, she's an even bigger idiot.

As for why women marry idiots, there are many. Low self esteem is probably the most common.
The "I'll change him" types.
 
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Verisure said:
:unsure: I am going to assume that it is only here in Sweden where the modern “feminist” has completely lost her mind. A rather common sight is a Swedish woman with a mobile telephone tucked under her chin, a takeaway coffee in one hand, the fist of her other hand wrapped around the push bar of the pram-buggy with a cigarette clutched between the fingers, dropping ashes on her newborn. Along she trundles, talking – forever talking – into the telephone. And I wonder what baby is thinking, “Are you speaking to me, momma? There’s no one else around so I guess you’re speaking to me.”
Ps. If I am stepping on someone’s toes right now ……. good! You are disgustingly selfish and you ought to be ashamed of yourself! :mad:
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Do you think it of any use to try to know this woman's situation before passing judgement, (ash on child hey, let's be thankful not sharing cigarette yet!)? :(
 
Can I chuck in a different perspective?
We all probably see tv shows these days where couples get to marry whoever it is they meet at a first date, (just me is it?).
Its hard to completely ignore the unaptly termed "Love Island" shows on TV too, (though believe me I try!). Yet they're attracting big audiences, and have to be considered as part of "popular culture" today, putting forward similar views of it doesn't matter who you hook up with, and potentially start a family with, if you're not careful.

"WE", (or perhaps I can say " YOU"!), choose to put the things I'm highlighting out of your minds, focussing solely upon what appears on the face of it to be poor parenting.

I agree there is plenty wrong with what is happening today in terms of parenting, but in my view the trouble doesn't start there, we're all doing much wrong to allow such purile thoughts or "lifestyles" to be put forward as iconic to young people, as "Love Island" does, (it should be renamed "Sex Island" too!).
 
Ronni said:
Good Lord. Don’t you remember? YOU ASKED!

I was answering YOUR question, ferchrissake! If you aren’t prepared for an answer, don’t ask the damn question! 🤦🏼‍♀️
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Do you think maybe you are taking the subject too personally? Relax. Read my OP. Read it carefully. Your name isn't mentioned in it. Furthermore, there is no one on this forum who has the same experience as I. What I wrote is true so if it upsets you then blame it on reality .... not on me. Can you do that for me, please?
 
grahamg said:
Can I chuck in a different perspective?
We all probably see tv shows these days where couples get to marry whoever it is they meet at a first date, (just me is it?).
Its hard to completely ignore the unaptly termed "Love Island" shows on TV too, (though believe me I try!). Yet they're attracting big audiences, and have to be considered as part of "popular culture" today, putting forward similar views of it doesn't matter who you hook up with, and potentially start a family with, if you're not careful.

"WE", (or perhaps I can say " YOU"!), choose to put the things I'm highlighting out of your minds, focussing solely upon what appears on the face of it to be poor parenting.

I agree there is plenty wrong with what is happening today in terms of parenting, but in my view the trouble doesn't start there, we're all doing much wrong to allow such purile thoughts or "lifestyles" to be put forward as iconic to young people, as "Love Island" does, (it should be renamed "Sex Island" too!).
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No, but I did occasionally watch the British reality show called "Wife Swapping". I think that was the name of it. Also, today when in season, is the American show "90 Day Finance" and most of its derivatives. Both entertaining but extremely painful to watch.
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grahamg said:
"WE", (or perhaps I can say " YOU"!), choose to put the things I'm highlighting out of your minds, focussing solely upon what appears on the face of it to be poor parenting.

I agree there is plenty wrong with what is happening today in terms of parenting, but in my view the trouble doesn't start there, we're all doing much wrong to allow such purile thoughts or "lifestyles" to be put forward as iconic to young people, as "Love Island" does, (it should be renamed "Sex Island" too!).
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Well, whereas TV "reality" shows are on the screen, edited, and often even scripted the experience of observing life is not. You can pass judgement (as you say) based upon your own values and morals, it's true, but it is real and you don't need to understand what you see by way of circumstance to know some of the things that I (or perhaps I can say " WE"!) have been talking about. By "knowing this woman's situation" as you said in your earlier post, I hope you are not making excuses for her behaviour or finding blame in the child?
 
grahamg said:
Are you suggesting you know and fully understand the workings of this young woman's mind? :(
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I am suggesting that I know and fully understand the effect that feminism has on women in the very same way that I know and fully understand the effect that political propaganda has on the general population. You do see the correlation, yes?
 
Verisure:
You say: “there is no one on this forum who has the same experience as I.”

Please be more specific and how do you know of others experiences?

As far as I know there are these types of feminism, but there may be more:
liberal feminism, socialist feminism, Marxist feminism, and radical feminism. Where does this woman fit in, please.
Thank you.
 
Shero said:
Verisure:
You say: “there is no one on this forum who has the same experience as I.”

Please be more specific and how do you know of others experiences?
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It has nothing to do with other's experience. It has to do with their lack of experience.

Shero said:
As far as I know there are these types of feminism, but there may be more:
liberal feminism, socialist feminism, Marxist feminism, and radical feminism. Where does this woman fit in, please.
Thank you.
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ANSWER: Swedish feminism.
 
Verisure said:
:unsure: I am going to assume that it is only here in Sweden where the modern “feminist” has completely lost her mind. A rather common sight is a Swedish woman with a mobile telephone tucked under her chin, a takeaway coffee in one hand, the fist of her other hand wrapped around the push bar of the pram-buggy with a cigarette clutched between the fingers, dropping ashes on her newborn. Along she trundles, talking – forever talking – into the telephone. And I wonder what baby is thinking, “Are you speaking to me, momma? There’s no one else around so I guess you’re speaking to me.”

Ps. If I am stepping on someone’s toes right now ……. good! You are disgustingly selfish and you ought to be ashamed of yourself! :mad:
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I'm not sure just how a woman + cell phone + cigarette + baby in a buggy ="feminist". This is what feminist women in Sweden do typically?
 
Verisure said:
It has nothing to do with other's experience. It has to do with their lack of experience.


ANSWER: Swedish feminism.
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I visited Sweden and enjoyed many a fika with women, some feminists and non feminists. The feminists did not seem to m to be any different to those I have met in other countries. Is it possible you may be using the incorrect word and should say instead careless parents? These exist everywhere!
 
Brings to mind the story a while back of the woman so focused on her cell phone that she walked into the side of a moving train. She was lucky that it didn't injure her, just knocked her on her butt about 30 feet away from the tracks.
 
Nathan said:
I'm not sure just how a woman + cell phone + cigarette + baby in a buggy ="feminist". This is what feminist women in Sweden do typically?
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Those you describe consider themselves to be feminists and feel they have a right to that behaviour. It is a rules/laws be damned "I can do whatever I want because I am a woman" attitude. This, despite any existing definition of "feminism", is what the ideology has come to represent in Sweden.
 

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