New Defense Bill

When your in a military hospital and hear the swish of female garments (their slips and rayon garments to which male ears are attuned after living in a total male environment) announcing a female has entered your world-it's like a visit from a better world.

Whether they should be drafter-don't know, but they alter soldier's worlds.
 
First of all, there is no draft, even for men.

This is only in the rare event of a war or other national emergency,and would be drafted for the first time in the nation’s history. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/legislation-require-women-men-sign-potential-draft/story?id=79013594

And second, it will be a hard sell for American women, when women can't even get an Equal Rights Amendment passed.

Federal judge says deadline to ratify ERA 'expired long ago' in setback to advocates' efforts https://abc7chicago.com/politics/de...xpired-long-ago-federal-judge-rules/10395278/ via @abc7chicago

The Equal Rights Amendment: An Ongoing Struggle – Women’s Rights in the United States Series
via @YouTube
 
Oh, the draft law is still there.....for men. Men still have to register with Selective Service, women do not. I have already stated my opinion on this, but here it is again: If the draft is activated again, women better damn well be included this time. And women should have to perform the same duties as men....not be protected little flowers as they were during Vietnam.
 
women should serve but not in a mixed unit but a seperate unit all female. also I think everyone who lives in this country of legal age should do some kind of service for the military, shovel c**p if nothing else!
 
Llynn said:
Oh, the draft law is still there.....for men. Men still have to register with Selective Service, women do not. I have already stated my opinion on this, but here it is again: If the draft is activated again, women better damn well be included this time. And women should have to perform the same duties as men....not be protected little flowers as they were during Vietnam.
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Then, women should get paid at the same rate as men when doing the same work.
Protected like little flowers? "With men off to fight a worldwide war across the Atlantic and the Pacific, women were called to take their place on the production line. The War Manpower Commission, a Federal Agency established to increase the manufacture of war materials, had the task of recruiting women into employment vital to the war effort."
"A number of cities across the nation had a positive economic effect because of the demand for manufactured war materials. In Alabama no city felt a greater impact than did Mobile. An estimated ninety-thousand workers swarmed into the city to work in the local war factories, especially in one of the two shipyards (Gulf Shipbuilding and Alabama Dry Dock and Shipbuilding) or in the ALCOA factory. The ALCOA plant alone would produce 34% of the nation’s aluminum, a metal necessary for the production of airplanes. Men still worked at these plants, but without the women, these plants would have never been as productive or as successful as they ultimately were." https://www.seniorforums.com/threads/new-defense-bill.64536/#post-1869867
 
oldman said:
The new defense bill will include mandating that females register for the draft. Is this a good idea?
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If anybody has to I suppose it should be both men and women.

I cut my toes pretty badly in a lawnmower the day before my 18th birthday. Got to call the draft board from the hospital, told them I'd probably never be able to walk again... In the end I got a very high number in the draft lottery. So did not get to find out if I could have gotten the 4F deferment. Probably not, I do seem to be able to walk... Wish I had kept the draft card, it's the only thing signed by Richard Nixon I ever had.
 
Ceege said:
Then, women should get paid at the same rate as men when doing the same work.
Protected like little flowers? "With men off to fight a worldwide war across the Atlantic and the Pacific, women were called to take their place on the production line. The War Manpower Commission, a Federal Agency established to increase the manufacture of war materials, had the task of recruiting women into employment vital to the war effort."
"A number of cities across the nation had a positive economic effect because of the demand for manufactured war materials. In Alabama no city felt a greater impact than did Mobile. An estimated ninety-thousand workers swarmed into the city to work in the local war factories, especially in one of the two shipyards (Gulf Shipbuilding and Alabama Dry Dock and Shipbuilding) or in the ALCOA factory. The ALCOA plant alone would produce 34% of the nation’s aluminum, a metal necessary for the production of airplanes. Men still worked at these plants, but without the women, these plants would have never been as productive or as successful as they ultimately were." https://www.seniorforums.com/threads/new-defense-bill.64536/#post-1869867
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OK you're a good feminist. I get it, but nothing you wrote dealt with the draft which was the topic of the thread.

All I was saying was that during Nam, women did not have their lives ripped out of their control as men did. Plus in the Navy at least women (none of whom were drafted) got special treatment not available to men.
 
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Llynn said:
OK you're a good feminist I get it, but nothing you wrote dealt with the draft which was the topic of the thread.

All I was saying was that during Nam, women did not have their lives ripped out of their control as men did. Plus in the Navy at least women (none of whom were drafted) got special treatment not available to men.
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Then we shouldn't even get into the sexual assaults women have had to endure while members of the armed forces, and the bad treatment they received if they reported it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sexual_assault_in_the_United_States_military

I would have to wonder if anything would be different in the future if they ever did start to draft women.
 
oldman said:
The new defense bill will include mandating that females register for the draft. Is this a good idea?
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Kudos om. This has been an emotionally gripping hot button issue lately.

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www.sss.gov/register/women/

www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/USCOURTS-txsd-4_16-cv-03362/pdf/USCOURTS-txsd-4_16-cv-03362-1.pdf

https://sgp.fas.org/crs/misc/R44452.pdf

http://mvets.law.gmu.edu/2021/03/29...ic-service-background-findings-and-prospects/

www.military.com/daily-news/opinions/2021/06/09/changing-military-draft-its-not-really-about-women.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selective_Service_System

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Military_Selective_Service_Act

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Coalition_for_Men_v._Selective_Service_System

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rostker_v._Goldberg





 
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Llynn said:
Oh, the draft law is still there.....for men. Men still have to register with Selective Service, women do not. I have already stated my opinion on this, but here it is again: If the draft is activated again, women better damn well be included this time. And women should have to perform the same duties as men....not be protected little flowers as they were during Vietnam.
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"damn well be included this time"
what the hell for? all the men do is b*tch about women anyway why make them go to war where you can b*tch about them some more? what kind of a man wants to send a woman into battle and watch her die? i swear to God i don't even know why i bother coming to these damn chat sites. you people are nuts.
 
Even at my ripe old age, I would be willing to do something to serve my country, even sit at a desk or whatever they would ask of me and only in case we were invaded and the war would be declared. I'm in good health (knock on wood) and am willing to do my part, but only if the U.S. was at war and to protect our country.
 
Right now, I am really pissed that Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller was thrown into the brig for defying a court order. This is nothing more than a contempt charge and not worthy of jail time. This man served the U.S. Marines and the United States military for 17 years. He is an honorable man that has served many tours in the Mid East, mostly in Afghanistan. What the hell is wrong with these people?

About an hour ago, I called the two Pennsylvania Senators' offices and voiced my disappointment and disagreement over this episode of incompetence of our government and military. They just keep piling up one mistake after another. Pretty soon we will no longer be living in a Republic.
 
A warm body is a warm body. I have it on good authority women have warm bodies. So I see no reason that women should not be drafted.
As for Lt. Col. Scheller, USMC, he is not a civilian. He is a senior member of the United States Marine Corps, and with all the restrictions that entails.. If he wants to have the privileges of a private citizen, he should resign his commission, otherwise he upholds his USMC oath.
 
fuzzybuddy said:
A warm body is a warm body. I have it on good authority women have warm bodies. So I see no reason that women should not be drafted.
As for Lt. Col. Scheller, USMC, he is not a civilian. He is a senior member of the United States Marine Corps, and with all the restrictions that entails.. If he wants to have the privileges of a private citizen, he should resign his commission, otherwise he upholds his USMC oath.
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This is all true and would be very difficult to defend him, especially since in his second YouTube selfie video, he states that he will have to face the consequences of his actions. So, he knew all to well that what he has done is not acceptable in the military.

However, in his defense, I would just say that the Generals that made the decisions that were administered in Afghanistan did not show us Americans that we have really smart people in charge of the military. Had Bagram Air Base, that we built and paid for, been kept opened, we could have airlifted our military, fellow Americans and the Afghans that aided our military during the conflict safely.

Because what did happen was a failure and cost 13 people their lives all fell on the backs of those that were running the show, namely Milley, McKenzie and Austin. As Milley had stated that he had to make a choice to either keep Bagram open or use the men to guard the Embassy that we also built and paid for at a cost of $800 million and fell anyway to the Taliban. Another failure imposed by the three Musketeers.

Not only didn't they apologize for their failures, but now are punishing an Officer of the U.S. Marines for bringing all of this to the attention of the American people. I understand that these men had their feelings hurt and maybe were insulted, but for the egregious acts of incompetent decisions, they had to expect that someone was going to call them out for these missteps. They blamed it on

Why not look at his record of being a loyal, fully committed Marine officer, who has spent 17 years in the Marines, has served his Battalion as a Platoon leader in exemplary fashion and is a married man with children at home. Having him serve what may be years in a Federal prison is no way to end this man's career. I would suggest that giving him a general discharge and perhaps, (I'm not sure how this would work) give him a reduced pension. After all, I do agree that some form of punishment should be meted out.

Me, thinking out loud.
 


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