Supply chain disruptions?

OneEyedDiva said:
Why does storing water on a concrete floor make a difference?
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We were told to not store it directly on concrete by the LAFD emergency preparedness team. Apparently concrete - or anything that had been spilled on concrete - can leach through plastic water bottles. (Obviously in EQ country we wouldn't use glass containers for storing emergency supplies.)

The FD advised strapping water on shelves or placing it on wooden pallets, so that's what we've always done.
 

Becky1951 said:
"They could be tranquilized and then brought in for slaughter or rounded up somehow. Animals suffer a great deal when they're shot by hunters."

Tranquilized animals cannot be slaughtered for human consumption, not safe. Deer rounded up would hurt themselves in the process.

An experienced hunter can shoot or bow hunt and kill a deer with first shot, no suffering.
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Very true.
Here in Indiana, they bring in sharpshooters with high-powered rifles with scopes to go into big Areas down south where the deer are overpopulated. They can shoot a deer in the head, instant death & no harm to the body with an arrow or bullet ripping through it.

Then they haul them out on special wagons behind ATVs so no bruising. They are taken & processed then given to food pantries where they give them to people in need.
 
hollydolly said:
Well, today on the way back from an appointment I stopped off at the supermarket in a different town... just thought I'd better top up a little bit particularly with meat , dairy, and a few other bits given the photos of all the empty shelves pictures in the media.. ..no problem..All shelves aside from the aisles with water, were fully stocked..

Dunno why people have bought so much water, our water is very good clean water to drink out of the tap so I dunno why people around here panic , and buy up so much water.. 🤷‍♀️...anyway..there was a little less variety of things in the freezer cabinets.. but overall everything was well stocked, but unfortunately more expensive...
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I'm glad you had some luck with that Holly. It's getting a little bit scary here how fast shelves are emptying. I stocked up on soap today, something I did not buy enough of during the start of the pandemic. But back then I was more concerned with food than household cleaners, soap, baking soda, vinegar, dishwashing liquid, bathroom cleaner etc. Not going to make that mistake again. :giggle:
 

chic said:
If I were in a position of authority, I would look into the possibility of areas of the country in the U.S. or warm weather climates in the EU growing and producing more food than they need for themselves while selling the surplus to states/countries in greater need. In the Northern hemisphere we are all on the precipice of cold weather but there are areas that remain warm enough to grow food throughout this cold season.

This is an extraordinary situation and calls for abstract thinking to solve the problem. It might be a good solution. I just wish someone else with the proper authority would implement it.
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That's already in use here. In the summer we have small farmers that plant & grow lots of vegetables then bring them to town to sell in a farmers market. (Good & fresh)

Then comes the cold weather with frozen ground. So all our vegetables are now grown down south in the warmer States or California. The problem is the LONG trip from those states, so the produce is not real fresh & it's very expensive to ship it north.
 
Wanted to add, the drugstore was somewhat replenished with cosmetic items but some shelves are still bare. I did pick up a couple of things. The OTC section is still pretty good. At the health food store, I got vitamins in case the food shortage should become lengthy or serious. They still had a lot but I know that won't last. A couple of years ago it took them months to replenish their stock so it's better to be safe than sorry.
 
chic said:
I'm glad you had some luck with that Holly. It's getting a little bit scary here how fast shelves are emptying. I stocked up on soap today, something I did not buy enough of during the start of the pandemic. But back then I was more concerned with food than household cleaners, soap, baking soda, vinegar, dishwashing liquid, bathroom cleaner etc. Not going to make that mistake again. :giggle:
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I''ma bit of a hoarder when it comes to cleaning materials and household cleaners, soap and toothpaste, so when Covid hit last year and we really had nothing on our supermarket shelves and people would sell aKidney for a packet of toothpaste, I was fine, because I've always been someone who stocks up on those things so it wasn't hoarding per se, because I already had them ...(y)
 
hollydolly said:
I''ma bit of a hoarder when it comes to cleaning materials and household cleaners, soap and toothpaste, so when Covid hit last year and we really had nothing on our supermarket shelves and people would sell aKidney for a packet of toothpaste, I was fine, because I've always been someone who stocks up on those things so it wasn't hoarding per se, because I already had them ...(y)
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You're like me. Not actually hoarding but I've been through several blizzards here so as winter is coming I start to stock up on canned goods, dried milk, Bread in the freezer, same with meat. I got this trait from my wife, & we ate well during the blizzards.

I have a whole house backup power generator (Generac) that runs on L.P. so I have heat, water from a deep well, hot water. My LP tank is 1,000 gallons & if I hear a storm is coming I call my supplier & have them top me off. That way I'm good for 1 to 2 months.

I've seen our power lines go down & it's taken 3 weeks to get power back on. I live in the country & a couple of times it took a month to get my road open using the biggest dozer made. Because there are only 3 houses on this road.
 
hollydolly said:
I''ma bit of a hoarder when it comes to cleaning materials and household cleaners, soap and toothpaste, so when Covid hit last year and we really had nothing on our supermarket shelves and people would sell aKidney for a packet of toothpaste, I was fine, because I've always been someone who stocks up on those things so it wasn't hoarding per se, because I already had them ...(y)
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After seeing this post, I checked my toothpaste inventory. 4 unopened tubes in the cabinet plus a couple in the RV. Several months worth of floss, too. Plenty of cleaning supplies, TP, PT, tissues, and soap on hand. Nothing to do with the pandemic though. Like you, I just maintain a strong backup supply.
 
I just stopped at our local butcher shop this morning. Was I surprised as I needed 1 lb of ground round (less fat) for my tacos tonight? What a surprise the Hamburg was $7.89 an lb. My Ground round was $8.89 an lb. I didn't even go look at the rest of the meat.

So since just me, I told the woman to only give me a 1/2 lb. This is from a local butcher & he gets his beef, pork & chickens local. NO shipping involved.
 
Tom 86 said:
I just stopped at our local butcher shop this morning. Was I surprised as I needed 1 lb of ground round (less fat) for my tacos tonight? What a surprise the Hamburg was $7.89 an lb. My Ground round was $8.89 an lb. I didn't even go look at the rest of the meat.

So since just me, I told the woman to only give me a 1/2 lb. This is from a local butcher & he gets his beef, pork & chickens local. NO shipping involved.
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Yikes! Makes me glad I stopped eating meat!!!
 
Tish said:
So annoyed right now, as my country is coming out of lockdown the price of petrol is through the roof.
Mind you city to rural travel has not been approved yet.
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how much are you paying Tish...?.. for the cheapest supermarket unleaded we're paying £1.39 per litre...£6.95 a gallon which is equal to $12.88 Australian Dollars per gallon... ... some places like BP petrol garages are charging over £1.40 per litre... and a shell garage within 5 miles of here is charging £1.43 per litre ...we're almost at the highest prices for fuel we've ever paid...
 
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Tom 86 said:
That's already in use here. In the summer we have small farmers that plant & grow lots of vegetables then bring them to town to sell in a farmers market. (Good & fresh)

Then comes the cold weather with frozen ground. So all our vegetables are now grown down south in the warmer States or California. The problem is the LONG trip from those states, so the produce is not real fresh & it's very expensive to ship it north.
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They should do that more with the feral hogs that are tromping up all the ground, too. Our neighbor makes hog sausage, think he's got a good night scope.
 
For several years, I have ordered from Augason Farms, which sells a lot of storable foods and survival type foods. All I have ever bought was the whey milk powder (Morning Moos) and the black bean burger mix, but they sell large cans of dried foods of almost every variety.
Apparently, so many people have been stocking up on the dried foods now that Augason Foods is out of stock, and is closing for at least the next three months . Since they are one of the largest suppliers of survival foods, this indicates some serious shortages to come, in my opinion.
People who have not done at least some stocking up already are going to find it harder (and more expensive) to do as time goes by.

I am definitely not ready for a long siege of shortages, but every shopping trip, I have been buying a little more canned foods and storable things like beans , lentils, and rice. I am trying to keep the gas tank full, in case we have the fuel shortages like happened before, when people were in long lines at the gas stations.
 
I haven't seen Halloween candy anywhere!!!!!!!! Not in supermarkets drugstores or convenience stores. Has it been cancelled due to the pandemic? The kids did go trick or treating last year. So I wonder.
 
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