Dr says NO shots for kids

Shero said:
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I am happy too that I was born to intelligent and loving parents who wish to see me live. I also wish to see my own children lead happy and safe lives and they are all vaccinated. Ou grandchildren will be getting vaccinated by their loving and caring parents when it becomes available for them in France for their age group. Thank God for sensible parents.
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Yes, the children depend on adults in their lives to make good decisions for them, and do what's in their best interest regarding health and safety.
 

SeaBreeze said:
I agree! Thank goodness that my mother wasn't an anti-vaxxer. She loved me and my siblings and made sure we were protected from all diseases which had vaccines available. Guess not so much conspiracy and paranoia back in the day. Not in my circle of friends and family anyway.
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It's not vaccines as a concept that are the problem for people who are lumped in the falsely bifurcated anti-vaxx label. There are also many who should be called "safer-vaxxers" that want vaccine safety studies for the combinations, sheer numbers given to children now. There are more than enough anecdotal cases of vaccine injury following today's schedule to move the topic into full scale study ...but who funds those? Guess? Anecdotal evidence should be a springboard to research ...is in most cases when the scientific method is correctly applied, but not this one.

Given your age @SeaBreeze , you were given less as a child than 1983. Graphic from


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AnnieA said:
It's not vaccines as a concept that are the problem for people who are lumped in the falsely bifurcated anti-vaxx label. There are also many who should be called "safer-vaxxers" that want vaccine safety studies for the combinations, sheer numbers given to children now. There are more than enough anecdotal cases of vaccine injury following today's schedule to move the topic into full scale study ...but who funds those? Guess? Anecdotal evidence should be a springboard to research ...is in most cases when the scientific method is correctly applied, but not this one.

Given your age @SeaBreeze , you were given less as a child than 1983. Graphic from


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I'm not a medical expert, but as the years go by, and more is discovered about diseases and vaccines, the more they become available. I would not deny my child of a vaccine for a deadly virus which has already killed almost 800,000 Americans, because of other vaccines that are recommended since the 1950s to present day. I would act in a responsible way and get the vaccine for myself, and my children when available.
 
SeaBreeze said:
I'm not a medical expert, but as the years go by, and more is discovered about diseases and vaccines, the more they become available. I would not deny my child of a vaccine for a deadly virus which has already killed almost 800,000 Americans, because of other vaccines that are recommended since the 1950s to present day. I would act in a responsible way and get the vaccine for myself, and my children when available.
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My post and included graphic was in answer to your post #23 in which you stated: "Thank goodness that my mother wasn't an anti-vaxxer. She loved me and my siblings and made sure we were protected from all diseases which had vaccines available. Guess not so much conspiracy and paranoia back in the day."

The ever burgeoning schedule--part due to redunt boosters that haven't been studied as well as unstudied combinations given the same day-- explain why parents today are more afraid about safety that they were in your mother's day. It's that fear of safety that is in part responsible for resistance to the new Covid vaccine and its little studied effect on children. I say 'in part' because there are some 'natural only everything' or religious healing kooks out there. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the person who wants more safety research.

My mother wasn't afraid to give us everything available when we were children. She's terrified of how much kids are getting now due to my nephew's vaccine injury. But she isn't 'anti-vaxx'. She's in the 'safer-vaxx' camp which is lumped into anti-vaxx by polarizing media.
 
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AnnieA said:
It's not vaccines as a concept that are the problem for people who are lumped in the falsely bifurcated anti-vaxx label. There are also many who should be called "safer-vaxxers" that want vaccine safety studies for the combinations, sheer numbers given to children now. There are more than enough anecdotal cases of vaccine injury following today's schedule to move the topic into full scale study ...but who funds those? Guess? Anecdotal evidence should be a springboard to research ...is in most cases when the scientific method is correctly applied, but not this one.

Given your age @SeaBreeze , you were given less as a child than 1983. Graphic from


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More than tripled by 2015. Whoa.
 
AnnieA said:
My post and included graphic was in answer to your post #23 in which you stated: "Thank goodness that my mother wasn't an anti-vaxxer. She loved me and my siblings and made sure we were protected from all diseases which had vaccines available. Guess not so much conspiracy and paranoia back in the day."

The ever burgeoning schedule--part due to redunt boosters that haven't been studied as well as unstudied combinations given the same day-- explain why parents today are more afraid about safety that they were in your mother's day. It's that fear of safety that is in part responsible for resistance to the new Covid vaccine and it's little studied effect on children. I say 'in part' because there are some 'natural only everything' or religious healing kooks out there. I'm not talking about them. I'm talking about the person who wants more safety research.

My mother wasn't afraid to give us everything available when we were children. She's terrified of how much kids are getting now due to my nephew's vaccine injury. But she isn't 'anti-vaxx'. She's in the 'safer-vaxx' camp which is lumped into anti-vaxx by polarizing media.
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I know what your post was referring to. I understand the concern that's been going on for decades now regarding too many vaccinations, but pulling the plug when our country is being affected by this current deadly novel coronavirus pandemic is not very wise.

Not the time to object to a life saving vaccine with 800,000 dead and many infected overflowing our hospitals and draining our devoted health care workers. I don't get annual flu shots, but when we were hit with the severity of this COVID-19 virus, and now the Delta variant, I gratefully took the available vaccination and was happy that they were available to US citizens. It's not like that in other countries. If I had young children, they would be getting this life-saving vaccine.
 
John cycling said:
Exactly! And oh the irony.
You take in the lies and disinformation you deny, and try to blame those us to who see them quite clearly.
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With all the nonsense you have posted on this serious subject, it's not even worth responding to you. You are deep down the rabbit hole with your questionable conspiracy sources. You should wake up and face reality, stop blaming the CDC and those who are trying to get a handle on this deadly virus.
 
I see I raised some tempers. The Covid Vaccine is still in early testing. Will be another 5-10 years before data is in on what adverse reactions are happening. I have one Grandchild and 3 Great Grandchildren under 18 And their parents say no to the jab in their arm. They will not be “test bunnies”.

I hope I don’t have to say told you so In 10 years.
 
GAlady said:
I see I raised some tempers. The Covid Vaccine is still in early testing. Will be another 5-10 years before data is in on what adverse reactions are happening. I have one Grandchild and 3 Great Grandchildren under 18 And their parents say no to the jab in their arm. They will not be “test bunnies”.

I hope I don’t have to say told you so In 10 years.
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Clearly, you have no idea of the process of the vaccine. Read what others have written about the stages of development of the Covid vaccine before reverting to writing non-sense!
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GAlady said:
I see I raised some tempers. The Covid Vaccine is still in early testing. Will be another 5-10 years before data is in on what adverse reactions are happening. I have one Grandchild and 3 Great Grandchildren under 18 And their parents say no to the jab in their arm. They will not be “test bunnies”.

I hope I don’t have to say told you so In 10 years.
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Sure you'll be here to tell us "I told you so?"
 
I think it's unethical to inject a child with an experimental drug with no product liability and no clinical studies of it's effectiveness in this age group, because the children Will Be the clinical study. And for what purpose? To further the government's propaganda machine?

I'm an American and I hate tyranny. Mandating a vaccinations for 5 year olds with an experimental drug with no product liability is diabolical. How blatant can you get as to how selfish and unholy your motives truly are.
 
GAlady said:
I see I raised some tempers. The Covid Vaccine is still in early testing. Will be another 5-10 years before data is in on what adverse reactions are happening. I have one Grandchild and 3 Great Grandchildren under 18 And their parents say no to the jab in their arm. They will not be “test bunnies”.

I hope I don’t have to say told you so In 10 years.
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I am sooo blessed that my kids are grown and can make their own decisions. I told hubby if we had a 5 year old, there is not way in happy land, I would give them a vaccine that was developed in less than a year. When I was a child my mom made the decision to get me vaccinated, as an adult, I have a choice. I was told years ago, I had a medical condition that I did not have...glad I did not give into it and put on medication unnecessarily. As I always say, everyone does what is best for them. I know my body better than a doctor. They try but are clueless at times. I know this from what my hubby is going through.
 
Most of us could never deal with fixing our own cars. We go to a mechanic. Yet, for our bodies, we think we can be our own doctors. We think our "research" is as valid as the professionals who did the research. Nuts.
 
chic said:
I think it's unethical to inject a child with an experimental drug with no product liability and no clinical studies of it's effectiveness in this age group, because the children Will Be the clinical study. And for what purpose? To further the government's propaganda machine?

I'm an American and I hate tyranny. Mandating a vaccinations for 5 year olds with an experimental drug with no product liability is diabolical. How blatant can you get as to how selfish and unholy your motives truly are.
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The motive is money. The more mandates, the more profits. That's what it's all about. It has nothing to do with health.
 

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