Mississipi Men Charged with Shooting at a Black Fedex Delivery Driver

JimBob1952 said:
Some people call themselves rednecks as a badge of honor. It's descriptive, not necessarily pejorative. Someone who works hard for a living, often with his or her hands, believes in old-fashioned values such as honesty and integrity, takes care of his/her family, and takes no s__t from anyone. At least that's the way I see it. There are definitely some negative connotations to being a redneck (insular, provincial, probably doesn't have a passport, etc) but some positives as well.

White trash is a whole 'nother thing.
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Thanks for clarifying.
 

JimBob1952 said:
Can we agree that shooting at people is bad, that using the n-word (no matter who you are) is bad, that racism (systemic, inherent, other kinds) is bad? I didn't see anybody leaping to defend the Arbury murderers and I don't see much to defend here.
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Uh....review rgp's posts.
 
The difference between the N-word and redneck or white trash words is, the N-word refers to a person's race while redneck and white trash refer to a person's lifestyle or behavior. People have no control over their race but people do have control over the latter. Making fun or insulting someone over something that they have no control over is pretty despicable, IMO.
 

dseag2 said:
Yes, I was aware of that but he did have a Fedex uniform on. Were they thinking he was stealing packages rather than delivering them?
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So you don't shoot someone because they look suspicious...you call the cops! @Devi Did they learn nothing from the Ahmaud Arbery case? Maybe they can't afford to pay rent and buy food anymore, so are trying to get their dumb a*ses thrown in jail. 😡 Dseag I was wondering if someone would post about this when I saw it on the news.

The way police handled the case...BS. That Fed-Ex put Mr. Gibson on unpaid leave...BS. Paying for his therapy doesn't put food on the table. I hope they get to do some jail time in a cell full of Black men. :LOL: The article was long enough but it doesn't explain why Mr. Gibson was driving a Hertz truck. I'd like to know the reason.

@Oris Borloff I was thinking the same thing about Fed-Ex being liable for not providing a proper truck and that this young man just may have a lawsuit if he chooses to pursue it, especially if they don't compensate him properly while he's on leave.
 
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AnnieA said:
Stop "theying" when using the N slur. Bring it right down to real people here. Black thugs, hip hop culture may use it, but do you see @OneEyedDiva using it, would you say it in her presence?

Think outside of race. It's socioeconomic status. Thugs of all races/ethnicities tend to use slurs freely. An educated, professional woman like @OneEyedDiva ....I'm betting... hates to hear the N slur in any context, even in music. But you could call me a redneck and I'd post the Bellamy Brother's Redneck Girl video.

The two words in no way carry the same connotation. If you were too ignorant to have known it before, you're not too old to learn it now.

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Annie...I find rgp's responses to be so ignorant (usually racist BTW) that I put him on ignore. I don't know what his response is here but I bet I could guess. No problem about using my name because you are right. I hate it when Hip Hop artists or anybody else uses the term. If they knew how demeaning it is to themselves and that it just perpetuates the usage by having others think... oh it must be okay...they'd stop. Again...another form of ignorance!
 
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helenbacque said:
Positions reversed, Gibson would have been in jail that night. Why? It's Mississippi.
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Stereotyping in this thread goes both ways...

The investigator's name is Vincent Fernando ...couldn't find a pic but his name doesn't sound like a stereotypical Southern racist.

Brookhaven is predominately black and chief of police Kenneth Collins is black. He's from all accounts a really good guy, active in community service outside his job.


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Devi said:
Well, I'd have to assume more, which isn't in the article. For example, one can probably get hold of a FedEx uniform, but maybe a FedEx truck is not so easy. But these are just surmises.
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Devi said:
P.S. This is what I get for commenting on an article without reading the whole (long) thing first. Ah, well.
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We will have to put you in a "time out" with Whoopi Goldberg. :ROFLMAO:
 
rgp said:
So ......... It's OK for you to use the term Redneck when referring to, two white guys ?

But it's wrong for a white guy to refer to a black guy as a ****** ?
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Yes, because I was born in a small town in NC and my relatives all live in the mountains there. So I know Rednecks. I've heard all of these.


Hadn't heard from you lately. Pop goes the Weasel. :ROFLMAO:
 
hollydolly said:
I've never seen 2 people look so old for their respective ages... 57 and 35..good Lord, are they on some kind of illicit drugs?.. :oops:
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Some people are given faces that warn everybody of what they are & pity them - from a distance.
These two are prime examples.
And they look alike because, where they live, no one is really "outside" the family.
 
hollydolly said:
why ?... I've read the story on several media outlets including the UK media.. and I can't find anything that says the Driver was the instigator ..so can you explain why you believe the shooters are innocent ?
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I haven't found anything either that says the driver was an instigator or at fault. But there will always be certain people who defend racist thugs and murderers and blame, without merit, those people of color who are targets in everyday life. My heart goes out to all of them. :(
 
I'm especially sensitive to racism because of my life experiences. My grandfather was an unapologetic racist who lived in a mobile home in the Carolina mountains (so I'm entitled to say Redneck ;) ). Some of the things my grandfather said were just awful, but I overlooked them because he was my grandfather and I still loved him. There was no way I was going to change his mind.

We lived in High Point during the 60's when Black waiters were only allowed to carry our trays and were not allowed to eat in the cafeterias. I remember going to dinner one night and there were Black people laying in the streets in protest. I was a kid and I had no idea what this was about, but I knew it wasn't right. My mother had postpartum depression when I was born so I was raised during my first couple of years by a Black nanny. She was so sweet and caring, and I think I honestly bonded with her more than my mother.

I was fortunate that my father chose to get out and move us to Central Florida when I was 8 years old so I was able to gain a broader perspective on life. Who knows where I would be right now if he hadn't? My father was a very intelligent man, and I don't remember him ever making any racist remarks. My mother, however, remained a racist (although not as overt as her father) until the day she died. I'm sure it wasn't easy for her when I introduced two Brown partners (a Cuban for 6 years and my current Filipino partner) but I think it actually taught her tolerance and the ability to experience other cultures. She loved both of them as much as she loved me. That is what is so needed in today's society.
 
dseag2 said:
I'm especially sensitive to racism because of my life experiences. My grandfather was an unapologetic racist who lived in a mobile home in the Carolina mountains (so I'm entitled to say Redneck ;) ). Some of the things my grandfather said were just awful, but I overlooked them because he was my grandfather and I still loved him. There was no way I was going to change his mind.

We lived in High Point during the 60's when Black waiters were only allowed to carry our trays and were not allowed to eat in the cafeterias. I remember going to dinner one night and there were Black people laying in the streets in protest. I was a kid and I had no idea what this was about, but I knew it wasn't right. My mother had postpartum depression when I was born so I was raised during my first couple of years by a Black nanny. She was so sweet and caring, and I think I honestly bonded with her more than my mother.

I was fortunate that my father chose to get out and move us to Central Florida when I was 8 years old so I was able to gain a broader perspective on life. Who knows where I would be right now if he hadn't? My father was a very intelligent man, and I don't remember him ever making any racist remarks. My mother, however, remained a racist (although not as overt as her father) until the day she died. I'm sure it wasn't easy for her when I introduced two Brown partners (a Cuban for 6 years and my current Filipino partner) but I think it actually taught her tolerance and the ability to experience other cultures. She loved both of them as much as she loved me. That is what is so needed in today's society.
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I'm blessed to have been born and raised in the northeast. There was no racist talk in my family and no hateful comments on any other people regardless of ethnicity, race or gender. I was raised in an environment of treating others as equals, as you would like to be treated. It was simple, it was natural, it was easy to follow. In my late 60s now, I am the same person, thankfully so is my husband. ☮️
 
Very sad that this still exists. I think this is happening more in the south from what I read. Thankfully many have changed their tune in regard to races and ethnicity. Where I live we show respect for all. Most of us.

People still need a lot of education in regard to others' suffering when it comes to races, ethnicity, and females issues and for that matter to all individuals. We all deserve respect and understanding and caring.
 
People who have not been taught to love all others and respect all others need education and understanding, too, for how else do you bring about peaceful change in them--to hate them? I think not or it's going against your beliefs in humanity and respect.
 
SeaBreeze said:
I'm blessed to have been born and raised in the northeast. There was no racist talk in my family and no hateful comments on any other people regardless of ethnicity, race or gender. I was raised in an environment of treating others as equals, as you would like to be treated. It was simple, it was natural, it was easy to follow. In my late 60s now, I am the same person, thankfully so is my husband. ☮️
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I was born and raised in the NE and there was a lot of racism where I lived, including from my father and many of my friends. It was a small town and the racism was nearly as rampant and caustic as what I saw in the south when I moved there.

I worked in a factory for maybe six months before heading south for work, and in that dilapidated building with windows so filthy, they barely let in the light, I was the only white guy in the entire department. It was mostly Black guys — probably 90%. Some of them had worked there for twenty or more years making just over minimum wage doing menial work that could be mastered in a few hours. They were working full time and still dirt poor. It didn't seem to bother them, though. They seemed content with their lives the way they were.

My Black coworkers often referred to me as "White boy." Somebody from another department said something about it to me and I just thought, why should I feel derided over something that I had never even thought about or didn't feel ashamed of. I didn't feel particularly proud of being White or ashamed. It was just the way I was.

I'd get high with my Black coworkers, and sometimes they would talk about things that happened in their neighborhoods. I remember one of them describe a murder that took place in the street in broad daylight, and he described the "funny faces" the dying man made while he was succumbing to his wounds. The other Black workers laughed hysterically. Some of them had similar stories to tell. I found it really bizarre that they were making fun of someone who was dying. That shows an extreme case of poor, violent culture. Some of Richard Pryor's comedy reflected that kind of mentality.

Working in that extremely depressing environment motivated me to seek a better life, which was when I moved to Houston to take advantage of the oil boom that was taking place down there at the time. What I found in Texas was White people called Blacks the N-word as if there was nothing to it. White guys would say, "Hey, <N-word>!" to Black coworkers, and they would respond with "Hey, <name of White guy>!"
 
I don't know how things are in other areas, but we get deliveries at my complex from Fed Ex, UPS, USPS and unmarked vans. I got an Amazon delivery from an unmarked white (newer nice) van last week. I used to also see a station wagon that I think was delivering Walmart packages driven by an older gentleman.

This was a case of egregious profiling IMO.
 
SeaBreeze said:
Seems like a lot of father and son racist scum coming into the light especially in certain states. Racism is alive and well in the USA, let's try to keep the victims of modern day lynchings to a minimum. I doubt the racist killings can be eliminated, at least not in our lifetimes. :(
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I, and some of my friends, even Caucasian ones strongly feel that when you know who was in office, he empowered White Supremacists and bigots even more. They became bolder and their numbers are growing. They came crawling out of the woodwork like roaches who mated with termites!
 
dseag2 said:
Yes, because I was born in a small town in NC and my relatives all live in the mountains there. So I know Rednecks. I've heard all of these.


Hadn't heard from you lately. Pop goes the Weasel. :ROFLMAO:
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ROFLM*O. Jeff Foxworthy is too funny! :D:ROFLMAO:
 

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