No More Masks?

Don M.

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I looks like the CDC, and most States have virtually ended the recommendation to wear masks. I just hope that the "authorities" aren't becoming overly optimistic as a result of the decrease in serious cases with Omicron, compared to Delta. Winter weather has limited the number of large gatherings, but that will all change in a couple of months as Spring/Summer arrives.

I'm a bit "skeptical" of many of the government positions....on almost everything. Personally, I intend to remain vigilant in coming months, and will be a bit surprised if there isn't another Spike or Variant by mid-Summer.
 

I think we've reached the point where everybody is doing whatever they are most comfortable with. The worst danger appears to be over, for now, anyway. But I haven't heard any of the authorities say the disease is conquered. It will probably be an annual thing, like the flu, and we may end up with annual boosters. Maybe they can combine the two boosters into one shot.

So far, about half the people I see in public places are wearing masks, the other half aren't. Pretty much all of us are vaccinated. Those with immune disorders or particular health problems are probably still staying home.

I'm going to a live theatre performance tomorrow, the first time in years. Masks and proof of vaccination are required to get in. I'm really looking forward to it - at last, a partial return to normality!
 
Nothing will change for me.

I'm still an old fat diabetic and will continue to wear a mask when I'm out running errands.

I like the idea of the new CDC mask metrics that will allow people to assess their own risk.

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Nothing will change for me.

I'm still an old fat diabetic and will continue to wear a mask when I'm out running errands.

I like the idea of the new CDC mask metrics that will allow people to assess their own risk.

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Ditto I'm with you.

I do have one question for our UK members. Boris & his buddies are removing all mandates for Covid soon. On the other hand UK's medical advisory board is recommending a 4th booster this spring. Does the right side of their mouth know what the left side is saying?
 
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Me too. Our Gov ceremoniously took hers off last week, but in the stores and businesses I go to, just about all employees wearing them and at least half or more of customers. Still required in anyplace healthcare related, SR and community centers. Was left up to school districts to decide, but appears to be lots of difference of opinion among parents.
 
Masks don't bother me and I wore mine when I stopped in at Aldi today. What I am waiting for is for testing to end. Just don't want my nostrils to be poked. I have a yearning to resume international travel. I hope all that will be necessary is to show proof of vaccination and booster for foreign entry and then US re-entry.
 
What I am waiting for is for testing to end. Just don't want my nostrils to be poked.
Yes, I agree with that! Last summer when cases were down I was considering going on my long delayed safari, but after reading about having to have the nose-poking done not only for the air travel both to and from Africa, but also for crossing borders within Africa, and having a hundred dollar charge each time (plus the risk of what if it had a positive result), it was just too much.
Now I feel like I don't really want to go unless I catch omicron first while I'm at home, I don't want to be sick on a vacation far away.
 
There have been so many contradictory recommendations about this and that til I don't feel I can trust much of what's being said. How can I know if the supposed health experts still don't know? I'll keep wearing my mask, as will my oldest grandson who we believe had COVID two months before it was labeled a Pandemic. We talked about that a couple of days ago. He said after what he went through, he never wants to go through that again and he will keep wearing his mask. BTW...he went to the ER on Jan 1st, 2020 with a very high temp; they put a swab way up his nose and my DIL said she wanted to slap the person who did it...because she hurt him. He couldn't work for months. Nobody said to him...hey you have COVID, but we feel that's what he had.
 

Amazon ends mask requirements regardless of vaccine status​

https://news.yahoo.com/amazon-ends-mask-requirements-regardless-of-vaccine-status-044434858.html

Amazon has been really making money on the mask mandates but now even they are seeing it is no longer worth keeping up the mask game.
They are not even sticking with a vaccine requirement .....
If people know they have issues or feel safer wearing one that is their choice and i say great ..... but let others be....

I see people UPSET and outraged that the forced wearing of them is ending ...... will there be more cases probably but it is VERY clear it is about upcoming elections and POLLS not hospitalizations or cases.....
My state just a week after announcing the end of mask ( said it was on OUR data) upped the date to match 2 other states ... so I guess our data was not that important as matching our neighbors..... but matching the POLLS

We could have more cases with more people testing at home they will just not even report a positive.....
so we are right back to the beginning where we do not even know how many cases are out there etc.......
 
The verdict is, once again, in: Masking in schools is effective.

Mandatory masking lowered transmission rates to nearly one-fourth those of schools where masks were optional, data from over 1 million children show.

During the COVID-19 pandemic’s delta variant wave, schools that required masking had approximately one-fourth the rates of in-school coronavirus transmission than schools with optional or partial masking policies, researchers report online March 9 in Pediatrics.

While the findings reinforce past research on masking efficacy, this is the first study to focus on secondary transmissions, or transmissions that happen at school, and how the rate is impacted by vaccination, community spread and district size, says study coauthor Danny Benjamin, an epidemiologist at Duke University. The team found that schools play a small role in terms of transmission in a community, accounting for less than 10 percent of total cases in the study. But masks are what help keep that number low.

To conduct a wide-reaching study, the researchers reached out to every kindergarten through 12th grade public school district in the United States — more than 13,800 of them — to track their case numbers and origins from July to December 2021. The 61 districts that answered the call consisted of more than 1 million students and nearly 160,000 staff across nine states.
 
To conduct a wide-reaching study, the researchers reached out to every kindergarten through 12th grade public school district in the United States — more than 13,800 of them — to track their case numbers and origins from July to December 2021. The 61 districts that answered the call consisted of more than 1 million students and nearly 160,000 staff across nine states.
so anecdotal study.......
one only need to have gone to a school during mask requirements .... i was always surprised how many adults did not wear correctly but on the school grounds mask hanging off face or not covering noses etc were way worse.......... and kids did not distance..

Many kids in my granddaughters school only were tested if symptoms appeared ......and since many many kids all were A-symptomatic the cases the school KNEW about.......................... CONFIRMED cases were told to schools by parents on the honor system ....
if a child did test but had no symptoms some parents just sent them anyway.
My daughter knew of a few examples of the parents not telling anyone about exposures or illness ....... until after the fact because so many judged people if they got ill like they were not following the correct masks/ shots etc....
 
Nothing will change for me.

I'm still an old fat diabetic and will continue to wear a mask when I'm out running errands.

I like the idea of the new CDC mask metrics that will allow people to assess their own risk.

idn0222cdc_graphic_01_web.jpg
Aunt Bea: I too am an old, fat, diabetic! I have generally refused to wear masks! They do not work against viruses and may actually make your chance of exposure worse. I worked in a cancer hospital for two years and was premed in college, I learned sterile technique in the hospital and in a college microbiology course I took. If you do real research on masks and controlling viruses, you too will find they do nothing of value, virus as so small the blow right through the masks and the few that may get stopped will then begin to turn into more active viruses in that moist warm air. Every time you inhale, you get a dose of whatever you exhaled earlier in the day. When you remove the mask do you sterilize your hands immediately? If not everything you touch gets compromised. Do you never put a non-sterile mask on your face, like the one you were wearing earlier? I hope not...again, more virus still on the masks...etc. etc. Big question, why is everyone wearing them? Political power driving fear! It is all about political and media power....get off the train and enjoy each day...
 
The verdict is, once again, in: Masking in schools is effective.

Mandatory masking lowered transmission rates to nearly one-fourth those of schools where masks were optional, data from over 1 million children show.

During the COVID-19 pandemic’s delta variant wave, schools that required masking had approximately one-fourth the rates of in-school coronavirus transmission than schools with optional or partial masking policies, researchers report online March 9 in Pediatrics.

While the findings reinforce past research on masking efficacy, this is the first study to focus on secondary transmissions, or transmissions that happen at school, and how the rate is impacted by vaccination, community spread and district size, says study coauthor Danny Benjamin, an epidemiologist at Duke University. The team found that schools play a small role in terms of transmission in a community, accounting for less than 10 percent of total cases in the study. But masks are what help keep that number low.

To conduct a wide-reaching study, the researchers reached out to every kindergarten through 12th grade public school district in the United States — more than 13,800 of them — to track their case numbers and origins from July to December 2021. The 61 districts that answered the call consisted of more than 1 million students and nearly 160,000 staff across nine states.
Come on as an MD you should know the protocol and how kids will not follow proper guidelines when using masks...this so-called study is questionable, can you provide specific source and has it been tested by another study? Standard protocol right?
 
so anecdotal study.......
one only need to have gone to a school during mask requirements .... i was always surprised how many adults did not wear correctly but on the school grounds mask hanging off face or not covering noses etc were way worse.......... and kids did not distance..

Many kids in my granddaughters school only were tested if symptoms appeared ......and since many many kids all were A-symptomatic the cases the school KNEW about.......................... CONFIRMED cases were told to schools by parents on the honor system ....
if a child did test but had no symptoms some parents just sent them anyway.
My daughter knew of a few examples of the parents not telling anyone about exposures or illness ....... until after the fact because so many judged people if they got ill like they were not following the correct masks/ shots etc....
Nothing anecdotal about it. Fact based study. Your reference to "granddaughter" and "daughter" is anecdotal.
 
Come on as an MD you should know the protocol and how kids will not follow proper guidelines when using masks...this so-called study is questionable, can you provide specific source and has it been tested by another study? Standard protocol right?
I'm not an MD but I am a scientist. One million data points represent a comprehensive, scientific research study.
 
Nothing anecdotal about it. Fact based study. Your reference to "granddaughter" and "daughter" is anecdotal.
yes and first hand ........ i saw school area and the fact parents did not tell school even if child was out said it was other issue ..shows data each school has is not conclusive
not just compiling a POLL of schools with no standard guideline or control group that is NOT a study but maybe a poll
 
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yes and first hand ........ i saw school area ans the fact parents did not tell school even if child wa sout said it was other shows data each school has is not conclusive
not just compiling a POLL of schools with no standard guideline or control group that is NOT a study but maybe a poll
I respect your opinion.
My three granddaughters and one grandson wore their masks in 2021 and the beginning of this year (remote learning in 2020) at school, and expressed no major problems with themselves or their classmates. Grades K through 6. So that is my anecdotal evidence.
 
In this week's email 'church letter', our minister&the COVID-19 task force have decided we now have the option of taking off the mask during worship.We still have to wear it when we come into the sanctuary,when we leave. Yea, I'm all for it, singing with a mask is cumbersome
 
Aunt Bea: I too am an old, fat, diabetic! I have generally refused to wear masks! They do not work against viruses and may actually make your chance of exposure worse. I worked in a cancer hospital for two years and was premed in college, I learned sterile technique in the hospital and in a college microbiology course I took. If you do real research on masks and controlling viruses, you too will find they do nothing of value, virus as so small the blow right through the masks and the few that may get stopped will then begin to turn into more active viruses in that moist warm air. Every time you inhale, you get a dose of whatever you exhaled earlier in the day. When you remove the mask do you sterilize your hands immediately? If not everything you touch gets compromised. Do you never put a non-sterile mask on your face, like the one you were wearing earlier? I hope not...again, more virus still on the masks...etc. etc. Big question, why is everyone wearing them? Political power driving fear! It is all about political and media power....get off the train and enjoy each day...
My choice has nothing to do with fear.

My choice to continue wearing a mask is exactly that, my choice.
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Get on the train or get off the track! ;):)
 
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Timewise, the answer is in the statistics. According to all the medical studies of this, who is more lkely to stay healthy, and to survive, those who wear masks in public indoor places, or those who don't? What are the numbers? That's the only answer that's valid.

Of course, we all would rather breathe nice clear fresh healthy air than breathe our own breath in a mask. But what if the "nice clean air" contains billions of viruses, many of which you are inhaling with every breath? That nice clean air contains poison. Especially if you are "older."

And of course, in spite of all the propaganda by the antivaxxers, the same holds true. Who gets covid in hugely greater numbers? Who is more likely to spend weeks or months in a hospital hooked up to a ghastly respirator, maybe with lifelong complications from the disease, or ends up dead because they believed the fearmongering?

Political power has always been driving the fear, and continues to do so; t's all about fear. But we can't discuss politics on this forum, so I suggest that you don't bring it up. (However, most of the fear is about vaccines; this is the first time I've heard of anyone being afraid of a mask!) 😁

BTW, I've mostly given up wearing a mask, at least for the time being. My state has the lowest rate of the disease, and I feel reasonably safe. I do wear one in a theatre or when required to by a business establishment. If there is another surge, the mask comes on again. The only thing that makes sense for an adult to do is to use one's own common sense.

P.S. In view of what is going on in the world right now, why are we still squabbling like chickens in the farmyard about whether or not to wear a mask or not? Those people in Ukraine have fled in terror, with nothing but the clothes on their backs. ☹️
 
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Timewise, the answer is in the statistics. According to all the medical studies of this, who is more lkely to stay healthy, and to survive, those who wear masks in public indoor places, or those who don't? What are the numbers? That's the only answer that's valid.

Of course, we all would rather breathe nice clear fresh healthy air than breathe our own breath in a mask. But what if the "nice clean air" contains billions of viruses, many of which you are inhaling with every breath? That nice clean air contains poison. Especially if you are "older."

And of course, in spite of all the propaganda by the antivaxxers, the same holds true. Who gets covid in hugely greater numbers? Who is more likely to spend weeks or months in a hospital hooked up to a ghastly respirator, maybe with lifelong complications from the disease, or ends up dead because they believed the fearmongering?

Political power has always been driving the fear, and continues to do so; t's all about fear. But we can't discuss politics on this forum, so I suggest that you don't bring it up. (However, most of the fear is about vaccines; this is the first time I've heard of anyone being afraid of a mask!) 😁

BTW, I've mostly given up wearing a mask, at least for the time being. My state has the lowest rate of the disease, and I feel reasonably safe. I do wear one in a theatre or when required to by a business establishment. If there is another surge, the mask comes on again. The only thing that makes sense for an adult to do is to use one's own common sense.

P.S. In view of what is going on in the world right now, why are we still squabbling like chickens in the farmyard about whether or not to wear a mask or not? Those people in Ukraine have fled in terror, with nothing but the clothes on their backs. ☹️
And your factual study with "statistics" that led you to this conclusion, is where so I can see the data? Without seeing the actual facts, to base our decisions on, we become sheep following the people who write these articles...
 
Timewise, the answer is in the statistics. According to all the medical studies of this, who is more lkely to stay healthy, and to survive, those who wear masks in public indoor places, or those who don't? What are the numbers? That's the only answer that's valid.

Of course, we all would rather breathe nice clear fresh healthy air than breathe our own breath in a mask. But what if the "nice clean air" contains billions of viruses, many of which you are inhaling with every breath? That nice clean air contains poison. Especially if you are "older."

And of course, in spite of all the propaganda by the antivaxxers, the same holds true. Who gets covid in hugely greater numbers? Who is more likely to spend weeks or months in a hospital hooked up to a ghastly respirator, maybe with lifelong complications from the disease, or ends up dead because they believed the fearmongering?

Political power has always been driving the fear, and continues to do so; t's all about fear. But we can't discuss politics on this forum, so I suggest that you don't bring it up. (However, most of the fear is about vaccines; this is the first time I've heard of anyone being afraid of a mask!) 😁

BTW, I've mostly given up wearing a mask, at least for the time being. My state has the lowest rate of the disease, and I feel reasonably safe. I do wear one in a theatre or when required to by a business establishment. If there is another surge, the mask comes on again. The only thing that makes sense for an adult to do is to use one's own common sense.

P.S. In view of what is going on in the world right now, why are we still squabbling like chickens in the farmyard about whether or not to wear a mask or not? Those people in Ukraine have fled in terror, with nothing but the clothes on their backs. ☹️
For every "so called medical study you show me, I can show you one that contradicts what you have read" A little common since need be applied. Do you know how small a Covid Virus is? Do you know how large the opening are in the masks you wear?...this is all you need to know!
 
I feel the government doesn’t want to put any more money towards Covid, which is still a crisis, or cause any more fear on citizens due to the impending war. We all need to make our own decisions how to keep ourselves safe and healthy in life, to the best of our abilities.
 


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