So many womens faces looking down on me from magazine rack in local store, ("modern Britain")

grahamg

Old codger
In a local store yesterday I spent a few minutes trying to look for a magazine I might like to read, and I'm afraid I failed to do so.

There were huge numbers to choose from but almost all had women's faces beaming down on me, as they were connected to tv. or radio, soap opera stars, and of course the usual array of women's magazines, with all their articles about celebrity culture and so on.

There was one man at least I recognised, on the cover of a BBC publication or gardening magazine, (as it was Monty Don, a fairly well known tv gardener, and he's a thoroughly decent chap though his persona would not be considered macho by most people I'd guess).

The other men's faces included Prince William, alongside his wife Kate, so that was fine, but I would guess less than 10% of the faces on view were men, and those other men that were there, I didn't know who they were pretty much.

My point here is that we've had decades of moves to supposedly try to make the world fairer, and I dont want to mention to "E" word, so you'll have to guess what I'm referring to, and this is what we've ended up with, a society arguably dominated, at least in popular culture, by women it would appear.

I checked out the website of the legal firm I use recently, and six out of seven young lawyers being taken on in the last year were women too, (all well and good, "just redressing the balance" I hear you say!).

There we go, "modern Britain" for you! :unsure::whistle::rolleyes:😢🄺😩🤬
 

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I also note that females predominantly grace the covers of American magazines, especially those of the tabloid varieties sold at supermarket checkouts as impulse buys. The exception would be the less common male celebrities pictured. In many cases, the individuals pictured have scandalous allegations or personal anguish ascribed to them in captivating headlines to prompt you to buy such magazines. Bill Clinton, one screams out at you, is about to kick the bucket. This is accompanied by the least complimentary picture of him ever taken.

ā€Dr. Ozā€ used to be featured on the covers of a lot of tabloid magazines hawking new diets or alleged miracle cures. Now that he’s developed political aspirations, we thankfully see less of him on magazine covers, but more of him on political primary ads…and why do so many Americans think that people with zero political experience or service make great candidates for office, anyways? šŸ¤”
 
Have to agree with some of what is said above and might add that I find the same thing in TV newscasts .
Most of these females babble on at a tremendous rate and I find I have to frequently use captions .
They need to take some elocution lessons to report sensibly.
 

There is a greater feeling of camaraderie between all women, whereas men tend to see each other as rivals. Seeing a female face on the front of a magazine just seems more friendly and 'chatty' than a male. Nothing to do with the modern world, just the perception of the different genders.
 
It looks as though we men will just have to get used to a brave new world, populated by strong, heroic women. You know the type, the ones who brag about their 40’ boats and have 50’ egos that they try to fit onboard them. We just had better get used to riding in the passenger side or back seat of their Range Rovers, as these strong, egocentric women, drive our world to places we’ve never been or thought we’d be forced to go.

The thing though too is, so many strong women cry about magazines showing impossible to live up to images of women that they know they never can be. Body shaming and all the rest of that, fill a good portion of those magazines, along with a generous portion of men bashing as well. You know, just chatty stuff.

That’s okay, there aren’t any women's magazines at the barbershop where I get my hair cut. Thank goodness that men have at least one last bastion of civilization to keep us safe from the strong women who put themselves first, front and center. It’s the new sign of the times and it reads, ā€œMen not welcome here!ā€
 
There is a greater feeling of camaraderie between all women, whereas men tend to see each other as rivals. Seeing a female face on the front of a magazine just seems more friendly and 'chatty' than a male. Nothing to do with the modern world, just the perception of the different genders.
Yes, and No I'd say! ;):confused::oops::cautious:

Yes, not only do female faces sell more newspapers and not just because of them looking friendlier, (remember the mantra S*X sells?), and then the newspapers and their editors/proprietors know women tend to have control of most of the domestic budget, hence get to make the choices.

As far as competitiveness goes, I know what you mean about men being rivals, or seeing themselves as such, but there is far more camaraderie between men than you'd think, but if you take a look at another current thread about issues being seen as "black or white" all the time by some people, the same individuals I'm thinking of is ultra competitive, as have other similarly good friends of mine been.

Added to that they think "winning is everything", and that leads to all kinds of trouble in my humble view, (important as winning is to us all of course, but it isn't "everything"! :unsure::whistle::rolleyes::sneaky:).
 
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Two men, meeting one another at a function, for the first time, happen to be waking the exact same shirt and jacket as the other man. That brings almost instant camaraderie between them.

Two women at the same or a similar affair, both wearing the same dress, instant cattiness.

We’re all different in some way but we’re all here, with all of our ways. Why bicker as much as we seem to do? Is it because we’re old? Is it because we’re different genders? Could it be that life would be perfect if everyone looked, thought, acted and felt the same as you do? Or as I do? I kind of doubt that that’s a solution that’s feasible or that would be satisfying. I read a book one time called, Everything I Really Needed To Know I Learned In Kindergarten, by Robert Fulghum. It’s still a popular book, though I don’t know wher my copy is. I think that I gave it to an angry person at some point in my life, where I thought that they needed it more than I. Maybe you’d like it too. I’m sure that it’s available online somewhere but maybe not on this forum.

Some women that I’ve had the pleasure of reading their thoughts, would make great angry old men. And some of the men, why, they’d probably be great if they’d been destined to be nosy old women. It’s okay, there’s room enough for everyone. Even room enough for those who ā€œknowā€ it ain’t so!

If we plant the seeds of kindness the gardens are much easier to maintain than if we sow seeds of obstinacy and mistrust. Think about which garden's flowers you like to present to a loved one. Cheers and have a beautiful rest of your life! Or be miserable, if that suits you better.

And just for the record, no fighting words or other words serving to act as a call to violence are either intended nor inferred within. My sole purpose in writing was to express what I believe and not to challenge or attempt to change any belief you may have or hold. Thank you!
 
I don't think it's anything to do with fairness or equality, it's all about market research and, judging by the amount of magazines aimed at women, it seems they are more likely to buy a magazine than men. My partner used to subscribe to a fishing magazine and I don't believe I ever saw a woman in it but then again, I only ever met one fisherwoman so it wasn't surprising that the magazine targeted men. I use to subscribe to a computer magazine which was male orientated as was the gardening books my father bought. I think you probably know this anyway ;):)
 
I don't think it's anything to do with fairness or equality, it's all about market research and, judging by the amount of magazines aimed at women, it seems they are more likely to buy a magazine than men. My partner used to subscribe to a fishing magazine and I don't believe I ever saw a woman in it but then again, I only ever met one fisherwoman so it wasn't surprising that the magazine targeted men. I use to subscribe to a computer magazine which was male orientated as was the gardening books my father bought. I think you probably know this anyway ;):)
Look at the proportions in the picture shown above, (I cant see any men's photos at all, so yes marketing is a very big part of it, (and S*X sells etc.), but its not the full explanation, not to these proportions. :(:whistle::rolleyes:
 
Look at the proportions in the picture shown above, (I cant see any men's photos at all, so yes marketing is a very big part of it, (and S*X sells etc.), but its not the full explanation, not to these proportions...

Being artsy (as in interested, not to confuse that with talented!), I've always loved this passage from CS Lewis' novel Out of the Silent Planet (part of his Space Trilogy) in which a female character is musing about female beauty.

Freud said we liked gardens because they were symbols of the female body. But that must be a man’s point of view. Presumably gardens meant something different in women’s dreams. Or did they? Did men and women both feel interested in the female body and even, though it sounded ridiculous, in almost the same way? A sentence rose to her memory. ā€œThe beauty of the female is the root of joy to the female as well as to the male, and it is no accident that the goddess of Love is older and stronger than the god.ā€​
~Jane Studdock, Out of the Silent Planet​
Lewis, C. S.. The Space Trilogy, Omnib . HarperOne. Kindle Edition.

What say ye? @Gaer , @chic
 
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Being artsy (as in interested, not to confuse that with talented!), I've always loved this passage from CS Lewis' Out of the Silent Planet (part of his Space Trilogy):

Freud said we liked gardens because they were symbols of the female body. But that must be a man’s point of view. Presumably gardens meant something different in women’s dreams. Or did they? Did men and women both feel interested in the female body and even, though it sounded ridiculous, in almost the same way? A sentence rose to her memory. ā€œThe beauty of the female is the root of joy to the female as well as to the male, and it is no accident that the goddess of Love is older and stronger than the god.ā€​
Lewis, C. S.. The Space Trilogy, Omnib . HarperOne. Kindle Edition.

What say ye? @Gaer , @chic

I respond to this quote because you asked.
Not a complete fan of Freud but Yes, I agree with the first part of his quote.
Being in a physical body and sensuous expression can be joyful for men or women.
As to the second part of the quote, the goddess of Love is an artist's conception
as an older, wiser, stronger goddess. This perspective is in the eyes of the artist.
Georgia O'Keeff's paintings portray her concept of women as flowers in bloom.
Each artist perceives the human body as a symbol of love in his/her own way.
Love is in the heart of the soul rather than the outer physical body but to capture
the fineness, the delicateness, the etherical manifestation of love is precarious.
Does that help?
 
I respond to this quote because you asked.
Not a complete fan of Freud but Yes, I agree with the first part of his quote.
Being in a physical body and sensuous expression can be joyful for men or women.
As to the second part of the quote, the goddess of Love is an artist's conception
as an older, wiser, stronger goddess. This perspective is in the eyes of the artist.
Georgia O'Keeff's paintings portray her concept of women as flowers in bloom.
Each artist perceives the human body as a symbol of love in his/her own way.
Love is in the heart of the soul rather than the outer physical body but to capture
the fineness, the delicateness, the etherical manifestation of love is precarious.
Does that help?

Sort of, lol! The quoted passage from Lewis above was a female character musing about the subject in a novel so the Freudian reference was her trying to make sense of her feelings at the time ...but going into all of that would've meant posting a huge passage from the book.

I think Lewis' point--through his character's view--is that the lines of the female form are beautiful to both female and male in a similar, powerful way.
 
Sort of, lol! The quoted passage from Lewis above was a female character musing about the subject in a novel so the Freudian reference was her trying to make sense of her feelings at the time ...but going into all of that would've meant posting a huge passage from the book.

I think Lewis' point--through his character's view--is that the lines of the female form are beautiful to both female and male in a similar, powerful way.
OK. Who quoted this was not specified. and, Maybe out of context.
Poetic or artistic freedom exists in both genre. So, yes!
 
Look at the proportions in the picture shown above, (I cant see any men's photos at all, so yes marketing is a very big part of it, (and S*X sells etc.), but its not the full explanation, not to these proportions. :(:whistle::rolleyes:
In my opinion, that photo is posed to support a particular theory. The woman is placed in front of magazines marketed towards women (some of those magazines are shown multiple times) while, to her left are magazines which are clearly marketed towards men and the covers reflect that. :)
 
In my opinion, that photo is posed to support a particular theory. The woman is placed in front of magazines marketed towards women (some of those magazines are shown multiple times) while, to her left are magazines which are clearly marketed towards men and the covers reflect that. :)
What are the proportions though, in most stores would you say, (whether or not the picture shown is staged, which I agree it probably is, though doesn't have to be if I'm right here, and almost every store, everywhere in the western world I'd guess just the same?:unsure::whistle::rolleyes::oops: )
 
What are the proportions though, in most stores would you say, (whether or not the picture shown is staged, which I agree it probably is, though doesn't have to be if I'm right here, and almost every store, everywhere in the western world I'd guess just the same?:unsure::whistle::rolleyes::oops: )

Nope🤭 almost every shop, everywhere in the western world (and no doubt beyond) will stock what sells and those numbers will be variable depending on both demographics and proven sales history šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø It's a very simple concept Graham, and nowt to do with female domination or the "E" word :ROFLMAO:

We appear to disagree on this occasion :)(y)
 
Nope🤭 almost every shop, everywhere in the western world (and no doubt beyond) will stock what sells and those numbers will be variable depending on both demographics and proven sales history šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø It's a very simple concept Graham, and nowt to do with female domination or the "E" word :ROFLMAO:
We appear to disagree on this occasion :)(y)
You could be right, though heaven knows how, (wait a minute, maybe I've got him on my side!!!):


Question: Why did God create man before women?

Answer: Because he didn’t want any advice on how to do it!
 
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Not this time, (enjoy yourself looking at all those men's faces in the magazine racks where you live, in that tiny enclave immune from what's going everywhere else!:sneaky: )
Interesting that you profess to know what's going on everywhere else :ROFLMAO:
 
On a lighter note, I went into W H Smiths one day to buy a popular computer magazine of the time and had to reach past a teenager in school uniform who appeared to be raptly reading that same magazine.

As I reached over his head I realised that he had a top shelf "girly" mag hidden inside the computer magazine!
 


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