A New Sneaky Speed Camera is on Test in Spain

Mike said:
It will probably arrive in this country before any other in
the World, our "powers-that-be", love speed cameras!

This one can see if you suddenly brake and slow down
to the speed limit, there will be no hiding place.

Be aware.
https://www.visordown.com/news/general/new-speed-camera-‘detect’-vehicles-braking-they-approach

Mike.
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potentially, as you say we in the Uk are hammered at every turn for speed cameras.. fortunately not so much here in the countryside, but enough to be annoying and certainly in the London boroughs it's horrible.. the govt sure likes making the motorist pay dearly here.. but... I can assure you in Spain, people will be shaking their heads in despair, because although there's probably not as many speed cameras in Spain as here in the UK outside of the larger cities..there are a LOT of corrupt speed cops.. and they will stop and fine you at any excuse, even if your NOT breaking the law!...
 
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I was about to write a post about "Big Brother" overstepping its boundaries. But then, I thought about when I used the PA Turnpike every day. I got to know where the 'Staties' (police) were, and where they weren't. And where they weren't, I drove at 80-85, mph. because I was always late for work, I was trying to make up time.
It seemed a good idea at the time.
 

We've got the opposite problem in the city where I work. There needs to be more cameras.
It's like the Wild West out of control here. Speeding as fast as 60 even 70 or more in 40 mile per hour zones is typical. Running stop signs, running red lights, cutting people off, never signalling, all just "another day at the office".
This is what happens when a city is overrun with crime and 90 percent of the tax base moves out. No traffic enforcement. The city can't afford to pay police officers and the officers on duty are way too busy with violent crime to enforce traffic laws.
It's okay though, two more years and my wife and I retire and move to the mountains. End of rant :)
 
Lanny said:
We've got the opposite problem in the city where I work. There needs to be more cameras.
It's like the Wild West out of control here. Speeding as fast as 60 even 70 or more in 40 mile per hour zones is typical. Running stop signs, running red lights, cutting people off, never signalling, all just "another day at the office".
This is what happens when a city is overrun with crime and 90 percent of the tax base moves out. No traffic enforcement. The city can't afford to pay police officers and the officers on duty are way too busy with violent crime to enforce traffic laws.
It's okay though, two more years and my wife and I retire and move to the mountains. End of rant :)
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Be careful what you wish for.. cameras absolutely everywhere in the cities and towns in the UK.. and speed cameras everywhere inlcuding the rural areas and beaches .. you simply can barely be anonymous in the UK unless you're on top of a mountain.. and even then if there's a car parking space up there there's likely a camera there too..
 
Reminded me of this one:
While driving through an intersection, I saw the flash of a traffic camera. I figured that my picture had been taken for exceeding the speed limit even though I knew I was not speeding.
Just to be sure, I went around the block and passed the same spot, driving even more slowly, but again the camera flashed.
I thought this was funny, so I drove even slower as I passed the area once more, but the traffic camera again flashed.
I tried a fourth and fifth time with the same results and was now laughing as the camera flashed while I rolled past at a snail's pace.
Two weeks later, I got five tickets in the mail for driving without a seat belt.
 
hollydolly said:
Be careful what you wish for.. cameras absolutely everywhere in the cities and towns in the UK.. and speed cameras everywhere inlcuding the rural areas and beaches .. you simply can barely be anonymous in the UK unless you're on top of a mountain.. and even then if there's a car parking space up there there's likely a camera there too..
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That's interesting. There aren't very many places here in the states that still have what we call "speed traps" and I think that might be because states get a big chunk of revenue from gas and road taxes. Like, maybe they don't sweat speeders quite so much because they don't need the fines so much.

Instead of more cameras, we're seeing more and more of these gadgets that pick up the sound of gunfire. And they can distinguish between a bang from a gun and a boom from a firecracker or some other noise-maker.

We have priorities. 🤪
 
Murrmurr said:
That's interesting. There aren't very many places here in the states that still have what we call "speed traps" and I think that might be because states get a big chunk of revenue from gas and road taxes. Like, maybe they don't sweat speeders quite so much because they don't need the fines so much.

Instead of more cameras, we're seeing more and more of these gadgets that pick up the sound of gunfire. And they can distinguish between a bang from a gun and a boom from a firecracker or some other noise-maker.

We have priorities. 🤪
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Frank we have a very greedy govt.. we clearly can't tax gunfire.... but they tax us on absolutely everything else. Petrol, Diesel, Cigarettes, Road tax ( just to drive on the road) speed traps.. Toll roads, .. we pay tax as part of the cost of an item or service.. not as an added extra as in some places in the Americas .. so when you see a price that's the price you pay, it already includes the Tax..
 
hollydolly said:
Frank we have a very greedy govt.. we clearly can't tax gunfire.... but they tax us on absolutely everything else. Petrol, Diesel, Cigarettes, Road tax ( just to drive on the road) speed traps.. Toll roads, .. we pay tax as part of the cost of an item or service.. not as an added extra as in some places in the Americas .. so when you see a price that's the price you pay, it already includes the Tax..
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US sales tax confuses a lot of people, including Americans. The reason it's not included in the price is because each state has its own sales tax rate. Some states charge a 7% sales tax, some 8 1/2%, and a couple of states have no sales tax at all.

No state charges sales tax on grocery food items, except for pet food, and some don't charge a tax on some prepared food. Like a fried chicken from the grocery store deli is taxed in Calif but not Nevada, however both charge tax on a McDonald's burger.....I think. I'm not sure. None of us are.
 
Murrmurr said:
Could that be because there's a really big family there who live like royalty? :p
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well it doesn't go to them that's for sure..:sneaky: well not directly anyway . we're told that the RF cost each and every member of the public just 68p per year to keep ...
Nope unfortunately our high taxes are taken by many government agencies and disappear just as fast out of public view, and we're never told where they're gone..
 
hollydolly said:
Be careful what you wish for.. cameras absolutely everywhere in the cities and towns in the UK.. and speed cameras everywhere inlcuding the rural areas and beaches .. you simply can barely be anonymous in the UK unless you're on top of a mountain.. and even then if there's a car parking space up there there's likely a camera there too..
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Right you are. Traffic enforcement by police would definitely be the better alternative.
 
hollydolly said:
as you say we in the Uk are hammered at every turn for speed cameras..
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I don't know of any around here, except a couple that just tell you your speed and warn you if over, don't think they do tickets.

If we are going to have speed limits then it makes sense to enforce them, and this seems a reasonable way to do it. However we probably should rethink some speed limits, it is not uncommon to be traveling with traffic flow well over the speed limit. I don't think that is dangerous, the law should recognize it.

Got a ticket once in Alaska driving from Delta Junction to Valdez, 250 miles of open road with almost no traffic. One car every 30 min or so that day. And it was sunny and relatively warm. I was going about 80 mph and the speed limit was 55. I do not think I was endangering anyone, under those conditions it was hard to hold your speed down...
 
I'm not aware of any Speed Cameras in our area....perhaps there might be some in the larger cities. However, radar speed traps are fairly common on many of our major highways. I tend to have a "lead foot", especially when driving on a highway with minimal traffic, so I've used; a radar detector for years....probably saved me a bunch of speeding tickets. In the past couple of years, I've seen far fewer of these "traps"...perhaps as a result of police getting sick from Covid, or having to spend more time investigating rising crime, instead of monitoring the roadways.
 
I'm not aware of any in my immediate area, but I'm definitely in favor of enforcing the traffic laws and punishing the scofflaws.

The newest notion that routine traffic/vehicle laws place an unfair financial burden on the poor sets my hair on fire.

The most cost-effective thing that any of us can do is obey the law.
 
Good site hollydolly, though some of those cameras are illegal,
they are all supposed to be bright yellow, to give the driver fair
warning and can see it from a distance. I didn't know how many
there were.

Some of the older cameras needed white lines on the road, the
number of lines that showed when you drove over them and the
camera took 2 pictures 1/10 of a second between them told the
police/computer, how fast you were travelling.

The speed limit in built-up areas all of my life has been 30 MPH,
now that most of us adhere to this limit, town/city councils have
changed that to 20 MPH, except on major routes, where they are
still 30 MPH, might be the sign makers that pushed for it, but here
ion London, speeding fines are big business.

Mike.
 
Mike said:
Good site hollydolly, though some of those cameras are illegal,
they are all supposed to be bright yellow, to give the driver fair
warning and can see it from a distance. I didn't know how many
there were.

Some of the older cameras needed white lines on the road, the
number of lines that showed when you drove over them and the
camera took 2 pictures 1/10 of a second between them told the
police/computer, how fast you were travelling.

The speed limit in built-up areas all of my life has been 30 MPH,
now that most of us adhere to this limit, town/city councils have
changed that to 20 MPH, except on major routes, where they are
still 30 MPH, might be the sign makers that pushed for it, but here
ion London, speeding fines are big business.

Mike.
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I was driving through Enfield the other day ( for those who don't know it's a London Suburb) ...I lost count of the speed cameras in less than 2 miles...
 
Murrmurr said:
"speed traps"
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We used to have real "speed traps" in Florida.

Small towns on the roads traveled by the snowbirds headed further south. They often ticketed any out of state car, or the Yankees anyway, no matter the speed, just to raise money. It was a real irritation to the tourist businesses. The state tried to shut them down several times. Finally in the 60s we had a governor who took the town charters, and their right to have a police force, away. That worked.
 
Alligatorob said:
We used to have real "speed traps" in Florida.

Small towns on the roads traveled by the snowbirds headed further south. They often ticketed any out of state car, or the Yankees anyway, no matter the speed, just to raise money. It was a real irritation to the tourist businesses. The state tried to shut them down several times. Finally in the 60s we had a governor who took the town charters, and their right to have a police force, away. That worked.
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We used to have them on long stretches of open roads, especially roads leading to and from Reno and Las Vegas, Nevada.
Calif has loads of long stretches of open roads.
 
I drove a truck through Bulgaria in 1973, their speed control was,
a wooden box, like a Sentry box, at each end of every village, with
a man in it, when you drive past the box, the man phones the other
one and gives the time and registration number of the vehicle, the
man at the other end times you through, if you are early, reaching
a point before his box, he jumps out and stops you to pay a fine
for speeding!

My speedometer wasn't working, but I didn't get stopped.

Mike.
 
Murrmurr said:
No state charges sales tax on grocery food items, except... .....I think. I'm not sure. None of us are.
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Iowa has insanely confusing tax laws, if the grocery item is chocolate covered it is taxed, unless it has flour in it, UNLESS the flour is in it to try to avoid being taxed! Cotton candy isn't taxed tho, nor marshmallow cream, those Iowans seem to have something against chocolate.
 
HoneyNut said:
Iowa has insanely confusing tax laws, if the grocery item is chocolate covered it is taxed, unless it has flour in it, UNLESS the flour is in it to try to avoid being taxed! Cotton candy isn't taxed tho, nor marshmallow cream, those Iowans seem to have something against chocolate.
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That's not just confusing it's mind-blowing.

I hate food-police. 👿
 
In NJ, most police cars are equipped with speed guns, so that the officer can prove your speed if you dispute his claim. Also, it is common in many communities where we have flashing signs telling us what our present speed is and we can adjust same to the limit of that area.
 
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